The Games

[JonCris]

I of course refer to the now disgraced Olympics

 

I see we have allowed exportation of Chinese thugs onto the streets of our Capital City

 

The scenes I witnessed on TV made me feel ashamed to be part of a country which allows foreign thugs to attack not only protesters but also innocent bystanders & do absolutely nothing about it. In fact it was obvious from the beginning that the police instead of arresting the Chinese 'Bouncers' for assault actually aided them in their criminal behaviour – Shame on the police & shame on all who took part in this disgraceful sham

 

Our own PM was effectively belittled on TV by the Oz PM who when asked if they would allow the Chinese to provide security in his country he replied that under no circumstances would that be allowed and that they would provide any and all security they felt was required.

 

Brown was rightly made to look like the joke he’s turning out to be & if he doesn’t demand a full public apology from the Chinese as well as disciplining a number of police officers who behaved so appallingly then he should not expect anyone with a conscience to respect him

[The GodMother]

I thought it was just a waste of 1 million pounds to be quite honest.

 

Maybe what needs to be done is that the chinese govermant are forced to accept tibet and talk to them insted of badly treating the ppl the way they do.

 

I was watching when they done there protest march and monks were just being rounded up and killed due to being from tibet.

[Tezcatlipoca]

Regarding the London leg, I was especially amused by Miss Huq's later comments on both TV and radio. She is a worringly stupid individual...

 

Given the overwhelming contempt for China's human rights record, and specifically for Tibet, and given both that Kevin Rudd has stated publically that no blue-tracksuited Chinese bodyguards will run with the torch through Australia, and that India has recently announced a major shortening of their torch route, I'm having some doubts that the torch will end up being taken through all the countries intended.

 

And whilst I confess to being somewhat astounded at the level of idiocy of those who pitifully bleat that the torch is 'about Olympic spirit', I think the offical response to the protests by the Chinese is even more astounding.

Sun Weidem, spokesman for the Beijing Olympics, has publically stated "No force can stop the torch relay of the Beijing Games.", whilst Chinese State TV said the protesters in London and Paris were a "handful of Tibetan separatists". Chinese TV broadcast heavily edited footage of the London leg to its citizens, with all instances of protest removed.

The Beijing Olympic group, together with the Chinese State, seem to be under the impression that the same tactics of supression and denial they enforce on their citizens will work on the rest of the world.

 

However, despite China's efforts to supress information, the Free Tibet campaign has - of course - already won. Their cause has quite rightly been covered heavily enough by the media to educate those who would otherwise have remained ignorant of China's rather questionable foreign and domestic policies.

 

Now we can only hope that Beijing is receiving the message the world is sending...

[JonCris]

I agree

 

What worries me is our 'Government' getting the message as even if your feelings about Tibet are ambivalent one cannot but have been disgusted that the Chinese Torch Bodyguards should have been allowed to behave in such a fashion on British Streets.

 

I also cannot get over the fact that our own British Metropolitan Police colluded in this fiasco in front of the eyes of the world. Whoever was in charge should be sacked immediately because they have lost the plot

 

As for those taking part including Ms Huq' who claim protesters shouldn't use the games as a political football conveniently overlook the fact that that's precisely what China is doing - it's 1936 Berlin all over again

[The GodMother]

what makes me laugh is that china have been making ppl homeless to build for this olympics then complaining that they have homeless ppl.

 

Maybe what the olympic comission need to do now is take drastic action.

 

Something like.

 

Unless you stop this war with tibet and stop your ppl from being thugs then we are not holding the games in china this year or any year.

 

 

Regarding the Security service, sorry i mean the blue shell suit thugs, they maybe they should be shown a bit about security them selves. I have seen nothing but hiss taking over this olympic tourch.

 

It looked like one the the thugs punched a police office on sunday because he got to close to the tourch whilest wrestling the person who tried snatching the tourch of Ms Huq. That is not acceptable behaviour but he was not arrested and charged with assulting a police officer........wonder what his excuse would be for the hitting of the officer, sorry your honor i thought he was a trying to make a point buy stealing the tourch.

 

They need to be brought down a peg or to these chinese thugs and the chinese goverment.

 

Maybe CAG is the one to do it.

[stardust_john]

I think countries should boycott china's games

[JonCris]

The politicians & business leaders bang on about doing business with China & many of our household name have moved their manufacturing there

 

& Oh boy! are they beginning to regret that move

 

There is now a massive worldwide market in so-called counterfeit goods many of which are made by the self same factories which make the originals. During the day out of the front door and at night out the back using the same materials as the genuine article.

 

And don't believe the propaganda that these forgers are all drug barons or that these goods are funding crime most is not. Most is paying the wages of ordinary Chinese & helping to make a few entrepreneurs rich

[dave]

This isn't the first time either.

 

Remember a few years back when very similar things happened?

 

I saw a HYS on the BBC a few weeks ago, asking if our government should boycott the games on the grounds of China's human rights history.

 

I can't see how they can without looking like the hypocrytes that they are - allowing that sort of sh** to go on in full view of the whole world while moaning about the same from another country.

 

Let's not forget the once Brown has been thrown out of power, he'll be making a mint from being on the board of companies who deal with Chinese companies.

 

Which side is his bread buttered - in Brown's life, both.

[JonCris]

Yes Dave but as I say in my last post has it been a wise thing to become so involved with China's manufacturing base - I would think not

 

as Max would say let me tell you a story

 

Once upon a time the Swiss who, besides cuckoo clock's, make very very good movements for watches discovered that cheap clones where coming out of Asia - they had 2 choices either try & crush this trade (nay impossible - no laws you see)

 

or & this the clever bit (or so they thought) we will move our manufacturing to Asia - teach these people how to make quality movements & in return we will receive the benefits of their cheap labour

 

Great Idea they all cried

 

Whilst some urged caution others seeing only profit went ahead & recruited many skilled trainees who worked diligently to obtain the skills required to be able to make watches of a high quality

 

You know what's coming next because unlike these idiot makers you have a brain do you not

 

Yes you have guessed it when fully trained they went off to make watches of their own some of which today are indistinguishable from the real thing but costing a fraction of the original

 

Today there is even one replica that has a far BETTER movement than the original

 

Some replica makers having gained a reputation for good quality have even started manufacturing watches under their own names which are much much cheaper than watches of the same quality

 

I even know of 1 rather exclusive supplier of watches who is having what amounts to clones rebranded & sold by them under their own name

 

Here endeth the story

[JonCris]

I think countries should boycott china's games

 

 

Me too but what makes me really angry is the fact that aided & abetted by our very own police China was allowed to introduce onto our Capitals streets the thuggish behaviour we witnessed on national TV

 

Those that took part should hang their heads in shame

[The GodMother]

well we are not going to get anyone to boycott the games as some ppl wont like it.

 

anyway if we boycot the games or not we no that china are going to winn most of the medals anyway.