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:confused: Last week I received the letter below from Green & Co Solicitors. But who are they? Are they solicitors or are they pretending to be.

If so is this fraud? They are not registered with the Law Society and a google search can only find an estate agent in Telford with the same name.

There is no company registration, email or website on the letter

Does any one have any ideas?

If it is a shame, or genuine - I'm confused.com.

 

Charlie

 

Dear Mr Mug (Not my real name)

 

We are instructed by our client, ******, in connection with the above liability.

We understand that, despite formal demand for repayment, the above amount remains unpaid and we are likely to be instructed to commence court proceedings against you, without further notice.

However, before we commence these proceedings, you have one final opportunity to make payment of the above amount within the next seven days. Please make cheques payable to Triton Credit Services Limited and send them to our client, details we confirm below:

 

Should our client not receive payment or acceptable proposals within 7 days. it can only be assumed that you will not settle this matter on amicable and reasonable terms. We are then likely to be instructed to commence court proceedings against you on our client’s behalf.

Yours faithfully

Green & Co

 

Signed but NO NAME

 

Please quote Ref No: *****on all correspondence.

 

Along the bottom in small type:-

Principal: J.A.M. Green LL.B.(Hons).

This Firm is the practising name of solicitors employed by The Royal Bank of Scotland Group

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Last week I received the letter below from Green & Co Solicitors. But who are they? Are they solicitors or are they pretending to be.

If so is this fraud? They are not registered with the Law Society and a google search can only find an estate agent in Telford with the same name.

There is no company registration, email or website on the letter

Does any one have any ideas?

If it is a shame, or genuine - I'm confused.com.

 

Charlie

 

Dear Mr Mug (Not my real name, or is it?)

 

We are instructed by our client, ******, in connection with the above liability.

We understand that, despite formal demand for repayment, the above amount remains unpaid and we are likely to be instructed to commence court proceedings against you, without further notice.

However, before we commence these proceedings, you have one final opportunity to make payment of the above amount within the next seven days. Please make cheques payable to Triton Credit Services Limited and send them to our client, details we confirm below:

 

Should our client not receive payment or acceptable proposals within 7 days. it can only be assumed that you will not settle this matter on amicable and reasonable terms. We are then likely to be instructed to commence court proceedings against you on our client’s behalf.

Yours faithfully

Green & Co

 

Signed but NO NAME

 

Please quote Ref No: *****on all correspondence.

 

Along the bottom in small type:-

Principal: J.A.M. Green LL.B.(Hons).

This Firm is the practising name of solicitors employed by The Royal Bank of Scotland Group

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Not a clue who they are but you might like to send them this letter asking for proof of the debt

 

Dear Sir/Madam

 

Account no:

 

You have contacted me/us regarding the account with the above reference number, which you claim is owed by myself/ourselves.

 

I/we would point out that I/we have no knowledge of any such debt being owed to (insert company name).

 

I am/we are familiar with the Office of Fair Trading Debt Collection Guidance which states that it unfair to send demands for payment to an individual when it is uncertain that they are the debtor in question.

 

I/we would also point out that the OFT say under the Guidance that it is unfair to pursue third parties for payment when they are not liable. In not ceasing collection activity whilst investigating a reasonably queried or disputed debt you are using deceptive/and or unfair methods.

 

Furthermore ignoring and/or disregarding claims that debts have been settled or are disputed and continuing to make unjustified demands for payment amounts to physical/psychological harassment.

 

I/we would ask that no further contact be made concerning the above account unless you can provide evidence as to my/our liability for the debt in question.

 

I/we await your written confirmation that this matter is now closed. Otherwise I will have no option but to make a complaint to the trading standards department and consider informing the OFT of your actions.

 

I/we look forward to your reply.

 

Yours faithfully

 

 

 

(Your Name) Print do not sign

 

See what they come back with :)

 

 

Hope that helps

 

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Green & Co are RBS's internal solicitors and usually act on behalf of Triton (who are RBS's internal Debt Collectors). However Green & Co don't always seem to know that they have sent you a letter. Have a read here http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collection-industry/106788-mint-triton-co.html?highlight=green

HAVE YOU BEEN TREATED UNFAIRLY BY CREDITORS OR DCA's?

 

BEWARE OF CLAIMS MANAGEMENT COMPANIES OFFERING TO WRITE OFF YOUR DEBTS.

 

 

Please note opinions given by rory32 are offered informally as a lay-person in good faith based on personal experience. For legal advice, you must always consult a registered and insured lawyer.

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Why not send a letter to The Royal Bank of Scotland Group asking them if Green & Co work for them...

 

Frankly it sounds like an in house DCA of RBoS, but it's not one I've come accross.

i will be off site for the next month or so. if you have any problems, feel free to report the post so a moderator can help you.

 

I am not a qualified or practicing lawyer.

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Frankly it sounds like an in house DCA of RBoS,

Tom please read :p
Green & Co are RBS's internal solicitors and usually act on behalf of Triton (who are RBS's internal Debt Collectors).

HAVE YOU BEEN TREATED UNFAIRLY BY CREDITORS OR DCA's?

 

BEWARE OF CLAIMS MANAGEMENT COMPANIES OFFERING TO WRITE OFF YOUR DEBTS.

 

 

Please note opinions given by rory32 are offered informally as a lay-person in good faith based on personal experience. For legal advice, you must always consult a registered and insured lawyer.

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2 threads merged. Please stick to one thread per topic.

HAVE YOU BEEN TREATED UNFAIRLY BY CREDITORS OR DCA's?

 

BEWARE OF CLAIMS MANAGEMENT COMPANIES OFFERING TO WRITE OFF YOUR DEBTS.

 

 

Please note opinions given by rory32 are offered informally as a lay-person in good faith based on personal experience. For legal advice, you must always consult a registered and insured lawyer.

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Tom please read :p

 

Your post wasn't there when I pressed reply.

 

I blame barracad. it's his fault, allegedly.

i will be off site for the next month or so. if you have any problems, feel free to report the post so a moderator can help you.

 

I am not a qualified or practicing lawyer.

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RBS seem to make a habit of this sort of deceitful practice. Triton is RBS's in-house DCA, and is a dormant company - in other words, it has no staff. Just like Greens, it's just another part of RBS.

 

I recently made a formal complaint to Triton, who have failed to respond - it will be interesting to see what FOS do.

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From the OFT guidance on debt collection

Communication

2.1 It is unfair to communicate, in whatever form, with consumers in an unclear, inaccurate or misleading manner.

2.2 Examples of unfair practices are as follows:...

 

c. those contacting debtors not making clear who they are, who they work for, what their role is, what the purpose of the contact is.

 

 

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charlie - it all sounds a bit suspect to me, especially as they are not listed with the law society.

i have myself recieved a letter from them similar to yours, asking me to contact them otherwise they will take the me to court/take repossesion of my property etc. the problem is that there is no contact number for them, or e-mail address. surely this can't be right if they are a legit company?

also, they don't seem to have any idea of the amount outstanding.

if you manage to find anything out before i do, i would be very interested in what they have to say.

good luck!

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