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right then

 

so, the windows are faulty,the assignment is flawed albeit that link could apply to the court to have the OC (GE CAPITAL) added to the claim , there were no cancellation rights even though they insist that its on the bottom of the form THEY sent you:confused:

 

there are a lot of issues here, i have asked somone who knows a lot more than me in contractual law to look in to give me an opinion on the liability under s75 .

 

it may be the case that another letter is needed to be sent to them

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Thanks Paul. I do appreciate everyone's help in this. My husband and I were told last Friday by his consultant that he has severe degenerative arthritis down the full length of the spine and that his condition will only worsen resulting eventually in him probably being wheelchair bound (he's only 61). I have all this on my plate at the moment and the last thing I need is more hassle from Link. We are more than willing to pay what we owe but I refuse to pay the exorbitant charges added to the account and their ridiculous fees!

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Thats good.

 

It could have taken weeks to find that type of info out if you did not phone them.

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Please remember the only stupid question is the one you dont ask so dont worry about asking the stupid questions.

 

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I have to admit that I am feeling slightly overwhelmed and frightened by the thought of having to go to court to argue this. :(

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Hi deb4tlj

 

this is the main thing that has been bothering me too,

 

this is why i advocated getting in contact with a solicitor for a free 30 minute consultation. i would also explore the legal aid with the solicitor, you may be pleasently surprised.

 

 

if you cannot find a solicitor who can help offer you advice i can give you another line for exploration.

 

College of Law - Do you need Legal Advice?

 

on the left hand side of the page you will see a box with locations IE North,south etc

 

select the location nearest to you, it will take you to a contact page,

 

its for the college of law, the teaching institution which educates nearly all lawyers and they offer free legal advice in the first instance

 

however they would not represent you in court, this is why i would go for a sol first

 

i feel you have a good arguement here, and also may have a counterclaim for the costs to put the windows right. so i think with the advice of a lawyer you may have enough there to make link give up

 

its gotta be worth a try

 

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Only had a quick read through here whilst looking for a letter but, just a little observation, there is a £65 'acceptance fee'

Being compulsory should this not have been included in the charge for credit?

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Apparently we're not entitled to legal aid and I am currently awaiting a free 30 minute consultation on the phone with my Union's legal reps. Received paperwork from the local county court this morning with an "Allocation Questionnaire" which has to be back at the court for 28th February. Any advice on how to fill this in? Looks like Link are going to take this the whole way. :(

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Hi Deb

 

Which AQ is it? is it a N149 or 150?

 

ah good, most unions have sols, dont forget to point out the points we have raised as they are very valid and also tell them that link are NOT allowed to take this action as they ONLY have an equitable assignment and therefore they should have brought the creditor in on the action . i would certainly make them aware of these points and see what their views were

 

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Upon reading through the form I'm thinking I should tick yes for the "settlement" part to buy some more time to find a sol willing to take this one?

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yes, you can do that, but if you do make sure you write to them asking how they would like to conduct negotiations

 

edit, I've aked paul - pt2537 to have a look at the thread, to see if there is a reasonable offer you can make.

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Hi Deb,

 

Maybe worth thinking about contacting them and pointing out that the windows are faulty, therefore you would like them to correct the issues or you would like them to look at offsetting the cost of repairing the faults against the cost of their claim

 

after all the creditor has joint liability for these issues, plus they would have to draw GE money into the claim to have any rights to this action

 

worth a thought

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Has anyone mentioned the £65(+10yrs interest) EDIT: actually looking at it the £65 is added onto the 1st payment so I suppose strictly there is no 10yrs interest added 'acceptance' fee/charge debited from the account at inception.

 

Should that not be included in the Total Charge for Credit?

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Has anyone mentioned the £65(+10yrs interest) 'acceptance' fee/charge debited from the account at inception.

 

Should that not be included in the Total Charge for Credit?

i will take a look in the law library to see what i can find on this subject
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From section k of the Agreement

 

The customer may not make and repayment in excess of what is set out above except that once every month the customer may pay an amount on top of and at the same time of no more than twice the monthly repayment as shown in letter i above. If any overpayment is made outside if these limits it will be returned to the customer.

 

 

 

is that an acceptable term under the CCA

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From section k of the Agreement

 

 

 

 

is that an acceptable term under the CCA

Good question! So as far as I read this, then they have no right to demand the full amount in question according to their own terms in the cca?

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Good question! So as far as I read this, then they have no right to demand the full amount in question according to their own terms in the cca?

 

:lol: if only - but I do like your thinking

 

but .... the CCA was really set up to protect consumers and that term seems very restrictive and certainly not in the interests of the consumer.

 

I haven't got a clue about it :( I was hoping that 'those in the know' may have seen something like it before and have an answer one way or the other.

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:lol: if only - but I do like your thinking

 

but .... the CCA was really set up to protect consumers and that term seems very restrictive and certainly not in the interests of the consumer.

 

I haven't got a clue about it :( I was hoping that 'those in the know' may have seen something like it before and have an answer one way or the other.

LOLOLOL No harm in trying! :D But you're right, it does seem an incredibly unfair term and geared towards making you pay the full 10 year term so they get every ounce of their pound of flesh!

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hi, im not sure this on its own would render the whole agreement invalid, only lacking prescribed terms can do this

 

its well known under contract law that if a term is unlawful then that term could simply be ignored by the court and that wouldnt automatically mean the contract itself is void

 

how did your talk with your union people go?

also have you contacted your home insurance provider? often you can get help from your insurance co, its worth a call anyway

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Talking to the union sol this afternoon at 3pm. I'll let you all know what they say. I'll definitely look into ringing the home insurance provider.

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excellent,

 

as i said point out the flaws in the assignment, the fact that there were no cancellation rights and their rather lame attempt to say that the cancel rights were on the bottom of the form, where it clearly is a direct debit mandate. so they were wrong there

 

 

also you should point out the fact that since the assignment is equitable, and therefore the creditor should be included in the action, you wanna point out the windows are flawed( tell them what the faults are) and could you consider a counterclaim for the costs of putting them right

 

if you can i would bet that link will shrivel up and dissappear;)

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