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Hi All

 

Let me start by saying great site.

 

So far I have just completed the spreadsheet and the request for payment letter. I will be posting them recorded delivery first thing in the morning hope all goes well.

 

Will keep you all updated on my progress.

 

Good luck to me and everyone else who claims of them EDITED banks.

 

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I Wish you everything you wish yourself.

 

NatWest Claimed £1,639. Accepted £1,344.

Natwest Paid me again as GOGW £1,656. Yes they can have it back if they say please.

Barclays 1 Claimed £1,260. Won by default. Paid in full

Barclays 2 Claimed £2,378. Won by default. Paid in full

Birmingham Midshires. Claimed £2,122. Accepted £2,075.

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Hi J-W

 

Completed payment letter AND the spreadsheet!

 

Wow! You don't need this forum, it needs you!

 

Suggest you repost on the Halifax site as you'll probably get more response there.

 

Me? I'm still struggling with spreadsheets.

 

Good luck, keep us posted and remember my mantra "one for all and all for one"

 

Regards.

 

Vandermerwe

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Seams like I should repost this in the Halifax forum do I start a new one or is there a way to move this thread.

 

Thanks for all the messages already. Gives me confidence.

 

When doing the spreadsheet it reminded me of when the bank took all my money that I was gonna spend on my girl for here birthday, as you can imagine I was crying my heart out.

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WARNING TO ALL

Please be aware of acting on advice given by PM .Anyone can make mistakes and if advice is given on the main forum people can see it to correct it ,if given privately then no one can see it to correct it. Please also be aware of giving your personal details to strangers

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Ok . .i will get that done. Can you Private message me your new one?

WARNING TO ALL

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yes thankyou again for the advice will keep you all up to date. I sent my letter off today 1st class recorded delivery, so gonna check royal mail website tomorrow. Then sit back an wait to see if they reply.

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UPDATE received letter from Halifax this morning as can be read below

 

 

Thanks you for your communication, we acknowledge receipt of your complaint about bank charges. We believe that your complaint concerns the level, fairness or lawfulness of the charges. If it concerns something else, such as an administrative error, please let us know.

We believe the charges are fair, transparent and lawful. Please be advised the banks has not become involved in legal proceedings with the office of fair trading (OFT) in relation to bank charges which we believe will resolve the legal issues regarding the fairness and legality of your bank charges.

It would be our normal approach to resolve your complaint through our internal complaints process as quickly as possible. However, until the determination of the legal issues in the above proceedings. We have asked the financial services authority (FSA) to suspend the normal timetable for dealing with bank charges complaints, and the FSA has agreed to this request subject to conditions that project your rights.

We can assure you we have registered and stored your complaint. Please retain your bank records, as this will make it easier for you to support your complaint on resolution of the test case.

Once the legal proceedings between the OFT and the banks finish, we will resolve your complaint as quickly as possible.

We are sorry that we have not been able to respond in full to your complaint now, but we (together with the FSA and the OFT) think that it is necessary to resolve the key legal issues before we decide how we should respond to you complaint.

Obviously exactly what will happen next will depend on the courts. We do not know how long the case will take – we have promised to proceed as quickly as possible but inevitably given the importance of the issues being considered this may take many months to finally resolve. But we can assure you that once the legal proceedings are completed we will resolve your complaint as quickly as possible. If at that stage you do not agree with our conclusions you will of course be able to refer your case to the Financial Ombudsman Service (FOS) (or the courts).

Given this court case we have asked the FOS not to proceed with any other case they are hearing until the test case is resolved. FOS has indicated that as a general proposition it will indeed not proceed with cases which rely on the legal issues being considered in the test case.

Similarly, you should be aware that if you choose to issue a claim in the courts, the bank will immediately apply to the courts for an order to stay your action until resolution of the bank’s proceedings with the OFT.

 

Does anyone know what I should do next.

when I sent the prelim letter I included the bottom paragraphe

 

In considering this request for repayment, your attention is drawn to the Press Release issued by the FSA on 27th July, which states:

 

"Consumers who are in very difficult financial circumstances - 'hardship cases'

 

Banks and building societies will have to conduct a filtering process to ensure that cases of genuine hardship are still dealt with during the waiver period. Cases of hardship would still be entitled to be referred to, and dealt with by, the FOS."

 

I believe that my personal circumstances fall within this category because during the time off charges levied against me I was in receipt of hardship benefits from the department of work pensions, proof can be seen on my bank account records

So does this mean that they still need to act on my request or are to in the right.

Please help I think that I have left it too long.

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Hi there hardship would need to be proved, behind with mortgage, being chased for debts you have failed to maintain etc, if you still feel you fall into this category then you have 2 choices start legal action or contact the FOS and you will need to prove you are indeed in Hardship.

Failing that you wait like others are until the OFT testcase is over.

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Yes am still recieving Income Support as am a single mother. So should I contact the FOS. If so could someone please give me thier contact details. And let me know what I should write to them.

 

Many Thanks

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Thanks tilly i will get intouch with them just hope it works its hard with 4 kids being on my own an partly disabled so the money would help out loads just keep fingers crossed for me

thanks again

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