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    I believe you will find that Russia and America (BOTH) are the main suppliers of weapons to all sorts of people, many of whom would be called terrorists. Israel is hardly in any position to take any moral high ground having bombed civilians indiscriminately, repeatedly. I think most of the world considers Israel also as a rogue state nowadays even if it isn't said in public. Any sympathy they might have garnered is long since used up, burnt and buried under rubble. They have become the worst of that which they fight.
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    It isn't that simple, and can't be with the potential for nuclear weapons. Do we really want a dozen North Korea's? But Iran has shown willing, as has Obama's administration, and an Iran which is invested in the rest of the World rather than isolated from all except rogue states has got to be better for everyone (except the rogue states). I also think that a powerful state which has some different drivers as part of the world group adds a potentially very good dynamic. The politics are complex beyond belief Israel, the Saudies, the issue with Iraq when the Yanks leave, let alone the lesser politics of IS and remnants of potential government in the many states of the middle east/north Africa. It could be that Iran extends its influence as the Israelis and Saudis claim, but I can't see that as being worse than the existing situation for the majority of the worlds populace or governments (particular 'interests' could lose out though).
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    I'm nothing short of utterly astonished that a deal has been done, even if it does get scuppered, given the forces aligned against it particularly The Israelis (massive political influence in the US) The oil lobby (Iran has massive stocks of oil it can release to the market as well as capacity - aka price and profits crash for the others) Amazing (and I am completely in favour until its demonstrated differently)
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    Well, a deal is there but the Israelis and senior members of a potential next US government say they will do all they can to cancel it.
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    I agree that they all mislead, and some do what ordinary mortals like us would call lie, but the challenge is which party do you honestly and objectively believe does what they say more than others, (whatever your views on their stated or actual policies)
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    LOL Of course (not), being given a referendum then shafted anyway is far better...
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    aaron, Have you asked lebara if they still have the number and/or can cancel the transfer and have the number back on their sim? Addendum Its likely the port has been processed as you say the lebara sim has stopped woorking, and you may find that the lebara account is closed, but it might be worth a try, and might clarify the current state of affairs and your options a little more.
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    It certainly is. (even with no mention of merkel shifting the dept, other than 'Germans being even more German') In a sad way, I was captured by : "Oddly enough, the financiers in Greece remain more or less beyond reproach. They never ceased to be anything but sleepy old commercial bankers. Virtually alone among Europe’s bankers, they did not buy U.S. subprime-backed bonds, or leverage themselves to the hilt, or pay themselves huge sums of money. The biggest problem the banks had was that they had lent roughly 30 billion euros to the Greek government—where it was stolen or squandered. In Greece the banks didn’t sink the country. The country sank the banks."
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    Point 1 If VF have lost that number, then there is little chance of anything except more delays, and no real chance it could be recovered. Point 2 - TPO seems a good and cheap operator, using EE and is only 30 days rolling so no long contract, and again:if VF have lost the number it is almost certainly lost with nothing to be done about it. Any compensation from VF, can be pursued without the other issues complicating life for the op.
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    Unclebulgaria, The challenge is not your view of the merit of their policies, but whether the party does what they say. And in your example, the Tories did and do basically what they say they will
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    Apologies if you misunderstood my summary. Bankers sans frontieres Of course the British+US arms of the Investment Banking fraternity are involved, the Troika are just the front end in this case. They may try to make money off each other from time to time, but working together to shaft everyone else makes that unnecessary doesn't it.
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    I think it is a crucial issue if one challenges oneself to honestly and critically review your true opinion of who is 'least dishonest' in terms of delivering what they say. In the doing what they say stakes, no matter whether I agree with what they say or not, I would place them: SNP (insert large gap) Tories (insert massive gap) Labour (insert further small gap) LibDems (take a trip around the moon) UKIP I have ignored the green party as I think going back to a romantic illusory golden age isn't a real option.
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    Seconded with utmost enthusiasm.
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    I agree, particularly with the reports describing the meetings as waterboarding him. But what did he expect? I had thought he either understood the game, or was enough of a statesman and patriot to have some options perhaps less appalling to the Greek nation. In either case there would be years or decades of striving, and I am not sure which might have been ultimately better for the Greeks. I think it possible he depended on fear of Greece exiting and becoming more aligned with Russia/China through necessity and simply didn't clearly understand what a pit they have dug for themselves, and the lengths the troika/political arm would go to in promoting and progressing their interests. Lambs to the slaughter. Brings to mind the far lesser Lib Dems and student votes debacle as examples that these are not isolated incidents but inherent in the current systems.
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    Sadly, that would seem to be exactly the case. Even more so with Labour than the Tories. And utterly damning of the Labour party.
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    Conniffs' obviously a rich family uni English degree grad (sic) ROFL (I thought 'How Oxbridge' as a response might have been a little too subtle) addendum Although there is an element of 'dig' there at conniffs' stance on charging for education, it was intended as good natured, and to allude to a question of who would sponsor an English degree - admittedly setting me up for a riposte at any response.. and if Ed balls had proposed that budget, he would have been lynched by his own party. (and I am broadly positive about the need for those sort of changes conniff - if not the method of implementation)
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    I would seriously consider asking vodaphone for a PAC code and take out a 30 day rolling monthly contract with someone else. The Peoples Operator seems to be cheapest by far at the moment - uses EE. Problem might be that VF have completely ballixed the transfer and TPO would end up with similar issues transferring your number from VF.
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    Well, it looks like the Greeks have been sold out, and will be asset stripped to pay banks (and their shareholders) who lent irresponsibly.. Nothing new here then.
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    Have you any idea what Labour REALLY stand for in terms of actual policies supported be even outline plans of how to implement them? Let alone party structure changes? I don't.
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    Any progress with this aaron32?
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    That was PART of the cause in my view, as was dropping the gold standard ... as was the inaction of the Labour government when they had the seats and votes to do something about it- but didn't, and during that same period the fidding and self serving of the Bankers reached absolutely epic proportions! So if no one, even apparently hardcore Labour apologists, are cheered by any of the candidates, what hope for Labour in the real world? or could it be that catering for the hardcore left is/would be the death of the Labour party? Any suggestions?
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    "... it happened on a LONG Labour watch. So the blame sits with them before anyone or anything else.." Perhaps I should have said alongside the bankers rather than assuming that was a given - all of whom have escaped any real blame or retribution. Banking regulation is the duty and responsibility of the government of the day no matter who DE-regulated it, particularly when Labour in their long watch COULD have changed those regulations, and clearly SHOULD have I'm still waiting for senior bankers to be penalised in any real way by ANY government - again the governments fault - Labour, Conservative and Lib-Dem.
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    Anyway, my personal opinions on the 4 candidates given that my No1 choice isn't running. Andy Burnham The definition of what is wrong with labour - all rhetoric but believes what he says Yvette Cooper Just does NOT come across as genuine. All fake body language hidden poorly and manipulated poorly, although she will undoubtedly get better at it, but really says FAKE bulls****er to me. Liz Kendall Wolf in sheeps clothing - perhaps Labours Margaret Thatcher with a social conscience. Jeremy Corbin The true social left, but perhaps now is not the time for this - maybe deputy? .... Now I think Harriet Harmon and Liz Kendall would be fearsome, but would need someone like Jeremy Corbin.
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    I think you are partially, and probably most importantly, right. But I would actually take it further, despite being what most (including myself) would consider to be a grass roots Labour person - Labour has no plan in which all their rhetoric could actually have a chance of becoming reality. They rely on nasty Tories doing the 'dirty deeds' which is the only way Labour can do what they do - else the nation would be bankrupt. The Tories have a plan and Vision Labour has no plan, just Vison (aka illusion) The Tories have policies, upon which they apply spin to make them palatable to more people Labour has rhetoric, which sounds socially good but is nothing but spin. So unless Labour resolve their internal differences to an adequate level, as was done under Blair, they are not just useless, and not only a liability to the country, WE have no clue as to what we should expect from them. and more than this they need the vision to come up with a viable plan and strategy to implement those policies in a realistic way which WE can believe in. At the moment all they do is spout the buzzwords We need : The Vision Something concrete not just the words The Plan Something, Anything concrete to support the possible implementation of that vision. Just spouting We have a vision for a fairer Britain for all and similar foundation-less, plan-less, meaning-less rhetoric is worth NOTHING. unclebulgaria67, Of course it is true that it was Labours fault. Whoever instigated the things leading up to it, be it Thatcherism, dropping the Gold standard or labour overspending, ... it happened on a LONG Labour watch. So the blame sits with them before anyone or anything else..
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    But I think that the last two elections and the continuing crash of support for Labours 'normal' is the issue. Lets take the very emotive example of the Tories cutting benefits. Labour say it was done wrong, and I agree, but the simple fact they are saying it should have been done differently rather than Labour INITIATING those changes in a more Social way when they were in power says it all. That changes were and are needed should be clear to anyone who is not blinded by their own self-interests. Even the Tories implementation is better (for the country as a whole) than leaving it as it was, but Labour should have driven more practical social reforms when they were in power for so long - and they didn't. Mind you there probably would have been uproar from the Labour ranks even for a Labour driven fairer change - so they probably rightly thought they would be in a lose-lose situation. The Tories have taken the bull by the horns and implemented changes that suites their policies - as they should (be true to their policies and practices). You WONT see Labour reversing these changes if they do get in, neither did you or would you see Labour introducing such changes. Both parties are driven by the noisy minorities, there is no-one actually doing what is best for the majority. .. and regarding young votes - I think the Liberals have introduced them to the lies of politics and painted it darkly for life for all those young Lib voters - and they all have paid for it.

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