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    • When you get chance please upload a redacted copy of the agreement and also this termination notice included within the LBC.
    • Hope there is someone who can have a look at this please? 🤞Have to hand it in in like half an hour... THanks!   INTRODUCTION 1.      As a defendant in this case I make this Witness Statement to oppose the claimant application dated 19.09.23 to lift the stay on proceedings, for the defence to be struck out, for the Summary Judgment on the whole claim and the cost order to be made against me, the defendant in view of my Defence submitted to the County Court Business Centre in Northampton on 22 June 2019. 2.      The Claimant confirms that this claim issued through Northampton County Court Business Centre remained stayed since. 3.      Attached is a witness statement and a bundle of documents marked ‘LON2’. BACKGROUND 4.      The defendant confirms she entered into a contract with the Student Loan Company (SLC) under Loan Number ………….. on 28 November 1996. The original loan amount was £2035.00 with APR rate of 2.7%. 5.      The loan was regulated by SLC and during the time SLC was in charge of the account the defendant successfully deferred every year as she was always under the earning threshold. 6.      The defendant acknowledges receiving a copy of a loan agreement enclosed as pages [1 to 2] of ‘LON1’. NOTICE OF ASSIGNMENT 7.      As per her defence, the claimant acknowledges receiving Notice of Assignment when the loan was moved over from SLC to Claimant on 22.11.2013. 8.      The Student Loan agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. 9.      As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights. This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information). The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 2014 REMEDIATION 10.  Defendant received a remediation pack from the Claimant on 28th August 2014 named Remedy of Account enclosed on pages [1-34] of ‘LON2’.  The cover letter explained that there was an issue under the Consumer Credit Act 1974 that resulted in Defendant’s balance being higher than it should have been so the reduction of £441.47 was applied to the account. 11.  The enclosed replacement documents in the pack showed correct situation compared to the originals with the erroneous Sums of Arrears. 12.   The defendant found this Remediation pack confusing and worrying that CCA 1974 was breached on Defendant’s account, yet the Claimant brushed it off with vague explanation and an apology. 13.  This issue puts shade on the Claimant’s requirement to prove the allegation that the money is owed as claimed under the Civil Procedure Rule 16.5 (4), as the Defendant does not admit the allegation. DEFERMENTS 14.  The defendant was granted deferrals for all the years they were with the SLC and continued to be granted deferments by the Claimant when they took over the loan as the claimant was under the earning threshold at all pertinent times. 15.  Defendant was sent and completed deferment forms for 20 years, between 1996 – 2016 without fail and no payments were ever due. 16.  Defendant had not received the 2017 deferment forms 8 weeks before the due date or the subsequent reminder that is customarily sent. 17.  Defendant had not been reminded by email about the deferment. 18.  When the Claimant noticed the Defendant’s deferment form was missing and this was unusual considering they have been at the same address for more than a decade and are on the electoral register, the Claimant did not make an attempt to call or email the defendant to communicate with them about the situation. 19.  The Claimant therefore did not treat the Defendant fairly. CCA REMEDIATON 2018 20.  As mentioned in Defendant’s Defence and not responded to in the Claimant’s Witness statement; the next communication from the Claimant that the Defendant received was the Remedy of Account pack on 1st September 2018 containing missing statutory notices that they are required to send within the prescribed timescales containing correct information to inform the client about their account as presented in pages [35-69] of ‘LON2’ 21.  Due to a system error between 2016-2018 the Claimant did not comply with this requirement and the correct statutory notices were not sent. 22.  This system error coincided with the dates the deferment forms were not received by the Defendant. 23.  The pack included annual statements some of which mentioned Sums of Arrears, much like the ones SLC used to send the Defendant in error – which was corrected by Claimant in 2014 as mentioned in points 9-12. The defendant was confused and googled the Remediation issue and found a - nothing to worry about – type of explanation on the Claimant’s website as it seems many accounts were affected. 24.  Claimant’s website stated: “What is remediation? During ongoing quality checks/reviews of our accounts, we identified an issue relating to communications that we are required to send customers as prescribed by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 (as amended) (CCA). Additionally, our review identified issues with the data on some of our customers’ accounts. Having reviewed all accounts for issues, along with rectifying the issues identified above, we are now in a position to resume our normal processes. We have begun writing to our customers who have had arrears on their loan(s) since 9 December 2015 (when Erudio took over the day to day management of the loans from the Capita Group). This is to ensure they have had all the required CCA notifications and their account data is accurate. This will involve sending the corrected documentation to affected customers and corrections to the data on customers’ accounts. If your account has been affected, you will receive this documentation where applicable. Any interest incurred since these issues arose will be deducted from your account balances. What does it mean for me? You don’t need to do anything. If you have been affected by any of these issues, you will receive a letter from us outlining what we have done to fix it. We will provide you with corrected regulatory letters for the period affected by these issues and inform you about any adjustments to your account balance or payment as a result of the removal of interest added to your account during that period.” 25.  The defendant concluded this error must be also why the deferment forms were not sent and trusted that the Claimant would fix the error and send the documents with an apology, after all, if there was a problem, the Claimant would have called or emailed to let the Defendant know. 26.  The Claimant was in breach of the CCA 1974 rules in letting the Defendant know about the arrears on the account, and subsequent actions taken were unenforceable as this was the Claimant’s error. LETTER OF CLAIM AND COURT DEFENCE 27.  However, Defendant was served with a Letter of Claim which was a shock. She had never been to court before and did not think she had a choice but go to court as the other option was to succumb to unreasonable offer by Dryden’s Fairfax lawyers representing the Claimant. 28.  Defendant therefore submitted defence to court. 29.  The Claimant’s witness statement has not addressed the CCA 1974 breach that was stated in point 15 or 16 of the Defendant’s defence. ADMINISTRATIVE STAY OF PROCEEDINGS July 2019 – May 2024 30.  As the Claimant’s Witness Statement reads, during the almost 5 year administrative stay, the Defendant was contacted by Drydens Fairfax layers representing the Claimant with offers to settle the ‘debt’, however the Defendant found the letters had a violent undertone, each one threatening with a CCJ unless the Defendant complied with demands. It was therefore unwise  to enter into any kind of relationship with such bullies who were well aware of the Defendant’s defence and that their client made serious mistakes and a breached CCA 1974 rules. 31.  As a result of these continual threats but the case still on administrative stay the Defendant experienced continual nightmares and stress related gut problems. She has seen the gut specialist who advised her the mind body connection and trauma can be connected with her type of gut issues and the defendant’s GP followed by referring her to trauma psychotherapy. 32.  On 8th of June 2021 the Claimant sent a letter with the statutory documentation they failed to send the Defendant even though her postal address had not changed. Again this was another CCA 1974 breach. 33.  On 16th December 2021 the Claimant sent another letter apologising for and error made in charging the Solicitor’s fees incorrectly, continuing with a series of blunders.    
    • I'm trying to unravel this – but I get the impression that there was no contract between you and EVRi and that you didn't even choose them but instead you decided use some third party parcel broker in the USA which organised the delivery. Is this correct? EVRi came into the picture because they would then eventually selected for part of the journey although you had no knowledge that it might be them and I suppose it didn't really matter as long as the item got to you. Secondly, I really don't understand the journey which this item made. You bought the item from somebody in the USA. They then were meant to dispatch it to you to another address in the USA but for some reason or other it came to the UK and then into the hands of EVRi at which point it was lost or stolen. More confusion here because you now tell us that EVRi marked it as being out for delivery but it was never delivered. This suggests that it was going to be delivered to a UK address but earlier on you said that it was going to be delivered to USA address. I think you need to look at the story. Maybe show it to a friend of yours who is not particularly where the details and ask them if they can make head or tail of it and then come back to us with clarification so that we fully understand. Also, I think we'd like to know what the item is, how was it declared, what was the value which was declared. You said it was a valuable item because it was rare and collectable. I gather from this that it is non-fungible. We need to understand more about this. Was an insurance policy purchased to cover it during the delivery process. I understand that this rare and collectable item be valued at £200. Have evidence this value. This could become very important. Also you have given is no idea when this happened. We need to understand the full timescale. There are a number of possibilities here including the possibility of the contract action against EVRi on the basis of your third party rights or an action for negligence but we need to know far more and we need to get a story that makes sense.   Finally, I understand that you have sent the letter of claim. What did it say? How much time did you give them? What did you expect to happen as a result of the letter of claim? Whatever the answers to those questions might be, clearly you had no idea how to proceed after having sent such a letter. A letter of claim is meant to be a serious threat of some legal action if some condition which you have stipulated is not complied with. You set a deadline for compliance and at the end of that deadline you issue the court action. Clearly you are not in a position to do that so your letter of claim is a bluff and undermines your credibility and it will find its way into the EVRi wastepaper basket – if it's not there already.  
    • Good morning. I just wanted to check something please. The other side have moved slightly and negotiated a full and final offer price to end this matter. I am happy with this. However, I want to make sure this is the end of the matter and am emailing the following over to them prior to payment. Is this enough to ensure they can come back for nothing else? Thanks -------------------------------------------------- Dear Sir.   With regards your last email below.   I am pleased to agree to the full and final settlement figure given below.   Can you confirm this payment will be in full and final payment with no further claim to be brought against me in this matter?   Best regards
    • 100% sure I didn't receive it, that why my first post is with the £100 letter.
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Its not complicated..its just this Solicitor.

 

So they have informed the court they wish to proceed to allocation...and yet they make an application to strike out your defence and/ or ask the court to issue an or else order that you submit a further defence.

 

Yes the application should run separate to the process...and you therefore have to file and submit the N180..irrespective of the out come of their application.(the court will advise)

 

Strike out applications are encouraged to be made early in proceedings especially when considering the escalating costs that can be incurred in pursuing the claim and following the court’s procedure and consuming the court’s valuable time and resources. The judge could question why a party has been complicit in allowing a claim to progress before making such an application. .

 

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updates are;

 

I completed and sent back the directions questionnaire we received and asked for the case to be heard at our local county court.

 

We initially received a 'transfer' of proceedings which the solicitor had asked for as part of his 'strike out' - this was transferred to the solicitors local county court.

 

A judge at this court has now transferred to the county court local to the claimant - i assume this is the 'strike out' application as well.

 

I called the court just now to confirm they had received the directions questionnaire and asked why it wasn't being transferred to our local county court, and they said as its a Business to Business case, the claimants nearest court takes preference?

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Of course you are a business....Im use to dealing with consumers.

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Cheers Andy, so the claimants court takes preference?

 

It won't change anything with the 'strike out' application and defence i entered online because we are a business - is it all the same basis?

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Yes in B2B claims ..the claimants court for hearings...and no change to everything else.

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Yes in B2B claims ..the claimants court for hearings...and no change to everything else.

 

Thanks. can't imagine the claimants solicitor being happy now as he had submitted the application for a hearing in his local court - and now its been transferred, on the orders of a district judge.

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Quick question regarding the 'directions questionnaire' - had i completed correctly...

 

To be completed by - I entered the company address

Your contact details - I entered my name as contact as am dealing with

Signature - my signature and the 'pp' for the company

 

as there solicitor has said;

 

I note that your own Directions Questionnaire has been signed off by xxxxx who is held out as your “legal representative” . I have not been served with any notice of acting on the part of a legal representative. Please therefore confirm who xxxxxx is, and which solicitors firm he works for. I trust you are aware that only solicitors are entitled to act as legal representatives on behalf of limited companies.

 

EDIT; have realised now I have not crossed out “legal representative” - I should have left as 'defendant' only....

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liam...hes is running rings around you and playing mind games....ignore..

 

Dont worry about not crossing things out...you are a litigant (courts expect and allow for errors) ...a Company yes...but self represented.

 

Have you completed everything else on the DQ correctly ?

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i did think that...

 

i had filled in all correctly and also cross referenced with his DQ he sent. The only difference between ours was we ticked yes for mediation and he ticked no.

 

Lets see what comes first - judges directions re DQ or the solicitors 'strike out' application.

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Today we have received the attached for a hearing scheduled for early next year.

 

What do you make of it

- the judge has added in the points (10) for any documents and defence to be submitted

- so this is where we submit our full defence?

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No its were you submit your witness statement and disclosures (Documents / Evidence) relied upon.

 

You have already submitted your defence.

 

 

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So it looks like the judge has refused a separate hearing before the main hearing, and ordered the claimant to pay the trial fee to proceed. This seems a good result for us, as the claimant has wasted his money applying for 'strike' out by the looks of it.

 

I am going to get cracking on the WS, but as the judge said he will deal with also the 'strike' out application on the same day - what argument would i need for this first do you think?

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Its good yes...as they are trying everything to stop this proceeding to trial...if they fail to pay the hearing fee on time the court will strike out their claim...crack on with your statement and disclosures and post here for opinion.

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Morning Guys, so where we are at is the 'claimant has to pay the fee by Friday 18th - whilst i have not had confirmation they have i assume they will.

 

Trial date is February 8th - and the judges directions state witness statements/evidence have to be exchanged no later than 14 days before - i make this by Tuesday 22nd? Have i got this correct?

 

i'm nearly finished anyway and will pop up here..

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IN THE COUNTY COURT AT xxxxxxxxxxx CLAIM, No: xxxxxxxxx

BETWEEN:

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Claimant and

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Defendant

 

WITNESS STATEMENT OF xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

I, Liam1806 will say as follows:

1. I am employed by xxx and authorised to act on behalf of the defendant. The matters to which I refer to below are all within my own knowledge unless otherwise stated and I am duly authorised to make this Statement on behalf of the defendant. I refer to the attachments ‘abcd and the attachments referred to below are the corresponding page numbers within ‘abcd

2. With respect, our initial defence entered via MCOL complied with CPR16.5, and defence only allowed us to enter a short version. I refer to attachments ‘abcd1’

3. We had submitted to the claimant a full breakdown of our defence, also to xxxxxxxxx prior to the claim being issued. We had attempted to settle with the claimant, and the claimant’s representative on several occasions. The claimant had refused to acknowledge. I refer to attachments ‘abcd2’.

 

 

4. The Defendant agreed a ‘special’ price on the xxxxxxx 2017 with xxxxx, then Sales Manager for xxxxx and the then sales director who emailed a quotation over which we accepted. On the 31st July prices were reconfirmed with xxxx as a price increase was coming up. I refer to attachments ‘abcd3’.

5. On the xxxx 2018, we spotted incorrect prices during a yearly audit and notified xxxx straight away who said they would pull off invoices to check. We were never replied to, only that they were waiting for the CEO to respond. This never happened. We then replied on the xxxx 2018 to say we are currently withholding outstanding payment until this was resolved, this was as a last resort as we never would normally do this but felt that xxxxx were not being co-operative. We settled all invoices which were correctly priced. I refer to attachments ‘abcd4’.

6. When we pointed out the price errors, an order being processed was amended to special pricing. I refer to attachments ‘abcd5’.

Invoice xxxx

Invoice xxxx

Invoice xxxx

7. As xxxx were not given any assistance by xxxx we calculated that we had been overcharged by £8,065.18. This figure, as previously stated was the difference between agreed special pricing and prices charged and invoiced for. Prior to this coming to light, xxxx had paid every invoice promptly to the claimant, and in fact during 2017 we spent in excess of £58,000. I refer to attachments ‘abcd6’

 

 

 

 

 

8. Invoices we have been over charged on are, I refer to attachments ‘abcd7’.

Invoice xxxxx

Invoice xxxx

Invoice xxxx

Invoice xxxx

Invoice xxxx

Invoice xxxx

Invoice xxxx

Invoice xxxx

Invoice xxxx

Invoice xxxx

Invoice xxxx

Invoice xxxx

Invoice xxxx

Invoice xxxx

Total xxxx

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

9. 5th March 2018, a meeting was arranged with xxxxx then Sales Director, for the 6th March where we discussed how to move forward with future business and xxxx stated he would investigate the over pricing further. On the 8th March we then received an email stating orders were on hold due to non-payment. I refer to attachments ‘abcd8’

10. On the 19th March 2018 we placed an order on the agreement we would pay straight away, whilst we discussed the way forward. This order was invoiced at the correct special pricing. I refer to attachments ‘abcd9’

11. Meeting was arranged with xxx Directors and xxx Directors to discuss the pricing on the xxx 2018, but xxx would not discuss the overcharging, only that if we continued to buy from them, they would offer a ‘rebate’ at the end of the year to migrate the overcharging.

12. xxxx states that a call was put in to xxxx, although we had no record of this, as I’m positive our Head Office would have realised the importance of this call and passed it to Mr xxxx or myself.

13. When orders were placed by xxxxxxx, we would email orders directly to xxxxx sales office without prices entered in. These orders were then accepted and processed with acknowledgements sent to our central accounts dept to marry up with invoices when they arrived to pay, unfortunately prices were not cross matched for errors. This accounts lady had since left the company. When deliveries were made to our warehouse by xxxxxx, delivery notes did not bear the pricing, so issues were not picked up on.

 

 

 

 

 

 

14. We have estimated the over charging to be £6,720.98 + vat (£8065.18 including vat). this is despite asking xxxxxx on numerous occasions to investigate, which has been ignored. We had also given xxxxx proof of the agreement. It is very unfortunate that xxxxxx has been treated in this way by a supplier, especially considering in 2017 we spent with xxxxx in excess of £58,000 – always paid promptly. This has never happened before with any supplier in our years of trading.

We had also since spoken to xxxx, who had left xxxxx who had confirmed that the initial agreement was correct and made with her then xxxx to work with xxxxxx and gain more business in the future. This was agreed at the offset in January 2017 and was the basis of xxxx gaining xxxxxxxx long term business.

We have identified pricing errors, in that on a couple of occasions we had been undercharged. It appears that the original pricing agreed on the xxxxxx was honoured until the xxxxxx, and from this date higher prices charged. It is our belief xxxxx pricing system was not working correctly, even though xxxxx Sales Manager re-confirmed pricing when asked.

Our feeling is, when this agreement was made, and the overcharging came out after the Sales Manager had left, is that the Directors of xxxxx reprimanded the Sales Director and he was removed from his position and told not to respond or deal with xxxxxxx.

I would also like to add, whilst we had not taken the services of a solicitor we had taken advice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Statement of Truth

I believe that the facts stated in this Witness Statement are true.

Signed:

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Content and form is good liam...however surely the following can only be speculative and not fact...

 

" Our feeling is, when this agreement was made, and the overcharging came out after the Sales Manager had left, is that the Directors of xxxxx reprimanded the Sales Director and he was removed from his position and told not to respond or deal with xxxxxxx."

 

Keep to the facts you can prove and dont introduce hearsay or points you can only surmise....our feeling has no place in a witness statement.

 

It also requires a conclusion ...what you want the court to do ?

 

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Thanks. I did think that last part maybe sounded silly, i will take out.

 

Conclusion, '' i duly request the court dismisses the claimants strike out application, and initial claim be dismissed as i have demonstrated that the claimant made a agreement with the defendant.I have also demonstrated how we tried to resolve this prior to court action by the claimant.''

 

Do i ask for costs - as the claimants solicitor has asked for in there claim?

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Excellent...may as well request costs...they can only say yes or no.

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can i just ask, the 'claimant' referred to CPR16 - whilst we said CPR16.5- when we said we complied with the initial defence - which is correct? i assume whether its business or consumer its the same?

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CPR 16 is the general section.....CPR 16.5 is the Practice direction...which is the correct way to refer to CPR and its subs.

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Thanks Andy.

 

So posted our witness statements this morning special delivery so they will receive Monday morning, and i will call the court to confirm they paid there fee.

 

Also, i assume the witness statement they sent us last July, is the final one from them as they haven't submitted any since directed to by the judge?

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