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Hello guys, please I need your help on how to obtain court judgment against me.

 

In 2013 I got on the train to Shoreditch station in search of job.

I had 1 month zone 2-3 travelcard thinking that station was zone 2

but my travel card won't work on the barrier

 

I went to the station staff to ask why my pass wasn't working.

He took it from me and said I am in zone 1 and I don't have a pass

he issued a ticket.

 

I left and at this time I was living from house to house because I had no job so no money to rent a place of my own.

 

In October 2014, I got a letter from debt collectors saying the court had ordered them to collect £420 and they traced me through the voters register.

 

I panicked and called them they wouldn't even listen to what I had to say.

All they wanted was that I pay the money or they will come to my house so I quickly paid.

 

Looking back I thought I made a mistake just paying without getting details of the judgment

I wrote the debt collectors 2016 April to ask for information

they hold about the fine but I did not get any reply.

 

Yesterday the 13th of March 2017 I called the debt collectors to ask why I have not heard from them

they could not explain but apologised.

 

They told me they don't have much information but the sentence was done by Thames Magistrate court on 27th of January 2014 and it was passed to them for collection in October 2014.

 

How can I get information of the hearing?

 

Would I have paid the fine and is it too late to do anything now?

 

Is the date of the sentence the date I get non-custodian sentence against my name

or will it be the date I made the payment in October 2014?

 

I will appreciate your advice. Many thanks

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Hello and welcome to CAG.

 

Have you spoken to the court?

 

My best, HB

 

No I have not been able to get through to the court

 

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Please how do I find the thread?

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you're already there

purely admin moved

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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you mean bailiffs not debt collector there is a VERY big difference.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I think you are asking when the fine will be dated from

it will be the date of the court judgement

and is a criminal fine.

and it will be registered

paying it does not remove it from records

but you paid the bailiff

so in terms of the fine its all over and done with

all that remains is the criminal record of you 'were' fined on xxx date.

 

 

that will effect visa's etc.

which I think might be your bottom line reason for asking here?

 

 

I gather than English is not your first language so guess that's why you asked about it?

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Thanks for this. I am asking for two reasons

1) I am applying for a job and they will do a CRB check

 

2) because I am thinking of applying for my naturalisation for British citizenship so I want to be sure before wasting my money.

 

If you don't mind me asking,

 

What do you mean?

 

 

What date will it be registered against me as criminal record?

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so guessed right

 

 

it will be registered as a criminal fine on the date of the court judgement.

 

 

so will show on crb

and will show up upon your naturalisation application

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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the fine is paid..

just the register of you 'were' fined remains for several years now sadly

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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the fine is paid..

just the register of you 'were' fined remains for several years now sadly

 

Can I apply to get more details of the judgment or is there a way to look up the register?

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you can apply to view it

should be online.

but what are you trying to achieve by doing this

you know its there anyway////

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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