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    • no i meant the email from parcel2go which email address did they send it from and who signed it off (whos name is at the bottom)
    • I understand confusion with this thread.  I tried to keep threads separate because there have been so many angles.    But a team member merged them all.  This is why it's hard to keep track. This forum exists to help little people fight injustice - however big or small.  Im here to try get a decent resolution. Not to give in to the ' big boys'. My "matter' became complicated 'matters' simply because a lender refused to sell a property. What can I say?  I'll try in a nutshell to give an overview: There's a long lease property. I originally bought it short lease with a s.146 on it from original freeholder.  I had no concerns. So lender should have been able to sell a well-maintained lovely long lease property.  The property was great. The issue is not the property.  Economy, sdlt increases, elections, brexit, covid, interest hikes etc didn't help.  The issue is simple - the lender wanted to keep it.    Before repo I offered to clear my loan.  I was a bit short and lender refused.  They said (recorded) they thought the property was worth much more and they were happy to keep accruing interest (in their benefit) until it reached a point where they felt they could repo and still easily quickly sell to get their £s back.  This was a mistake.  The market was (and is) tough.   2y later the lender ceo bid the same sum to buy the property for himself. He'd rejected higher offers in the intervening period whilst accruing interest. I had the property under offer to a fantastic niche buyer but lender rushed to repo and buyer got spooked and walked.  It had taken a long time to find such a lucrative buyer.  A sale which would have resulted in £s and another asset for me. Post repo lender had 1 offer immediately.  But dragged out the process for >1y - allegedly trying to get other offers. But disclosure shows there was only one valid buyer. Lender appointed receiver (after 4 months) - simply to try acquire the freehold.  He used his powers as receiver to use me, as leaseholder, to serve notice on freeholders.  Legally that failed. Meanwhile lender failed to secure property - and squatters got in (3 times).  And they failed to maintain it.  So freeholders served a dilapidations notice (external) - on me as leaseholder (cc-ed to lender).   (That's how it works legally) I don't own the freehold.  But I am a trustee and have to do right by the freeholders.  This is where matters got/ get complicated.  And probably lose most caggers.   Lawyers got involved for the freeholders to firstly void the receiver enfranchisement notice. Secondly, to serve the dilapidations notice.  The lack of maintenance was in breach of lease and had to be served to protect fh asset. The lender did no repairs. They said a buyer would undertake them. Which was probably correct. If they had sold. After 1y lender finally agreed to sell to the 1st offeror and contracts went with lawyers.  Within 1 month lender reneged.  Lender tried to suggest buyer walked. Evidence shows he/ his lawyers continued trying to exchange (cash) for 4 months.  Evidence shows lender and receiver strategy had been to renege and for ceo to take control.   I still think that's their plan. Lender then stupidly chose to pretty much bulldoze the property.  Other stuff was going on in the background. After repo I was in touch by phone and email and lender knew post got to me.   Despite this, after about 10 months (before and then during covid), they deliberately sent SDs and eventually a B petition to an incorrect address and an obscure small court.  They never served me properly.  (In hindsight I understand they hoped to get a backdoor B - so they could keep the property that way.)  Eventually the random court told them to email me by way of service.  At this point their ruse to make me B failed.  I got a lawyer (friend paid). The B petition was struck out. They’d failed to include the property as an asset. They were in breach of insolvency rules. Simultaneously the receiver again appointed lawyers to act on my behalf as leaseholder. This time to serve notice on the freeholders for a lease extension.  He had hoped to try and vary the strict lease. Evidence shows the already long length of lease wasn't an issue.  The lender obviously hoped to get round their lack of permission to do works (which they were already doing) by hoping to remove the strict clauses that prevent leaseholder doing alterations.   The extension created a new legal angle for me to deal with.  I had to act as trustee for freeholders against me as leaseholder/ the receiver.  Inconsistencies and incompetence by receiver lawyers dragged this out 3y.  It still isn't properly resolved.  Meanwhile - going back to the the works the lender undertook. The works were consciously in breach of lease.  The lender hadn't remedied the breaches listed in the dilapidations notice.  They destroyed the property.  The trustees compiled all evidence.  The freeholders lawyers then served a forfeiture notice. This notice started a different legal battle. I was acting for the freeholders against what the lender had done on my behalf as leaseholder.  This legal battle took 3y to resolve. The simple exit would have been for lender to sell. A simple agreement to remedy the breaches and recompense the freeholders in compensation - and there's have been clean title to sell.  That option was proposed to them.   This happened by way of mediation for all parties 2y ago.  A resolution option was put forward and in principle agreed.  But immediately after the lender lawyers failed to engage.  A hard lesson to learn - mediation cannot be referred to in court. It's considered w/o prejudice. The steps they took have made no difference to their ability to sell the property.  Almost 3y since they finished works they still haven't sold. ** ** I followed up some leads myself.  A qualified cash buyer offered me a substantial sum.  The lender and receiver both refused it.   I found another offer in disclosure.  6 months later someone had apparently offered a substantial sum via an agent.  The receiver again rejected it.  The problem of course was that the agent had inflated the market price to get the business. But no-one was or is ever going to offer their list price.  Yet the receiver wanted/wants to hold out for the list price.  Which means 1y later not only has it not sold - disclosure shows few viewings and zero interest.  It's transparently over-priced.  And tarnished. For those asking why I don't give up - I couldn't/ can't.  Firstly I have fiduciary duties as a trustee. Secondly, legal advice indicates I (as leaseholder) could succeed with a large compensation claim v the lender.  Also - I started a claim v my old lawyer and the firm immediately reimbursed some £s. That was encouraging.  And a sign to continue.  So I'm going for compensation.  I had finance in place (via friend) to do a deal and take the property back off the lender - and that lawyer messed up bad.   He should have done a deal.  Instead further years have been wasted.   Maybe I only get back my lost savings - but that will be a result.   If I can add some kind of complaint/ claim v the receiver's conscious impropriety I will do so.   I have been left with nothing - so fighting for something is worth it. The lender wants to talk re a form of settlement.  Similar to my proposal 2y ago.  I have a pretty clear idea of what that means to me.  This is exactly why I do not give up.  And why I continue to ask for snippets of advice/ pointers on cag.  
    • It was all my own work based on my previous emails to P2G which Bank has seen.
    • I was referring to #415 where you wrote "I was forced to try to sell - and couldn't." . And nearer the start in #79 .. "I couldn't sell.  I had an incredibly valuable asset. Huge equity.  But the interest accrued / the property market suffered and I couldn't find a buyer even at a level just to clear the debt." In #194 you said you'd tried to sell for four years.  The reason for these points is that a lot of the claims against for example your surveyor, solicitor, broker, the lender and now the receiver are mainly founded in a belief that they should have been able to do something but did not. Things that might seem self evident to you but not necessarily to others. Pressing these claims may well need a bit more hard evidence, rather than an appeal to common sense. Can you show evidence of similar properties, with similar freehold issues, selling readily? And solid reasons why the lender should have been able to sell when you couldn't.
    • You can use a family's address.   The only caveat is for the final hearing you'd need to be there in person   HOWEVER i'd expect them to pay if its only £200 because costs of attending will be higher than that
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Hi all,i posted a few months about about a pre-payment meter i had fitted last august by british gas to pay an outstanding bill of £678,a warrant was sent out last july to gain entry,and a representitive called round twice at the time,left a card etc etc,eventually i spoke to him at the door and i told him my situation and he said i cold have a meter fitted to pay the bill off,i questioned him about the £285 charge and he told me,or assured me that it was more of a scare tactic and i wouldn't be charged so we arranged a day to have it done,had it fitted,the charge was set on meter and that was that....i regularly check the meter debt and last week it was at £400 odd left to pay off...then this morning i receive a letter to say at the time i had the meter fitted they made a mistake and didn't transfer all or some of my debt to the meter and obviously because i still owe this amount i still to pay it and they would adjust my meter in the next few weeks,so i had a look at ,y outstanding debt on the thing and was shocked to see the debt is now £1083!!!!!!! thats £600 more!!!! so i rang them up immediately and according to them,the £285 they state on the letter is the warrant charge they didn't add on to my outstanding debt back in august (aug 5th 2009 to be exact) even though i was told by the door rep i wouldn't pay it,i empkained this to them on the phone just and they aren't having it,they said they checked their files anf what the rep has put and they won't wavier the charge,so bascally i've got to pay it,is there anyway i can get this knocked off because 1)They've lied to me (as i would have borrowed money to pay the debt off in full rather than pay nearly £300 for a meter) and 2)It's 7 months ago and now they've decided to add it on which now takes my bill to the original of not abit more than it started at in first place,so i feel i've paid nothing off :(

 

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I would send them this request letter and also a SAR and ask for absolutely everything what they have about you and your account, the request letter is for charges back what they have been charging for standing meter charges as they have done the exact same to me today and I can not get any joy out of them when I phoned up as they could not tell me if it was for charges they had put on or if it was for Gas used before pre pay got put in? I put my request in at beginning of this month and will now be sending a SAR for everything they have on me, as I believe they add charges on just for sake of it, will keep you posted when I do some more digging from Ofgem.:???:

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Thanks for that,will certainly try it.

 

My bill was originally about £500 something,but because they charge £14 a letter (reminders) and then they charge £50 a letter which states because a rep has had to hand deliver even though it was posted...how the hell can they justify these so called charges for an A4 piece of paper??!!! is beyond me

 

I've sent an email off which am awaiting for a reply about this so called warrant charge of £285 which they say should have been added on in August,as they've admitted this,but i don't see why i should pay as they didn't have to gain entry,i agreed to have a meter which the rep said would cost me nothing to have fitted,because i asked him this beforehand to be sure...so he lied to my face....arghhhh British Gas are the bain of my life

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Well I charged my card up with 20.00GBP this morning and it took 11.00GBP charge off and instead of the 64.00GBP debt going on. I ended up with 110.00GBP added on, how can they do this when i had a letter stating only 64.00GBP, they think they can do what they want?

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RESULT!!!!!! Phoned BG up yesterday about the extra money they put on my pre pay meter and went through all bills from when i joined BG and all readings on meter. Found out they had already added it in August 2009 and they tried sticking it on again. They wiped it off yesterday so back down to original amount, so i would ask them to go through your account and ask them for full statements, i think you might be suprised, they also did it with my electric meter a couple of months ago, i had 24.00GBP debt left owing and i topped the key up checked my debt to see if it had took any off and to my suprise they stook another 240.00GBP on so had to ring them up again and it was their fault so they removed it.HOW MANY OTHER PEOPLE DO THEY DO IT TO WITHOUT THEM KNOWING, I AM GOING TO START A NEW THREAD JUST WARNING PEOPLE OF THIS ROBBERY.:D

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Unfortunately when you have a prepayment meter, you are totally in the hands of your suppliers as to what is set on the meter.

BGas may say they will wipe the extra charges but until they have adjusted the meter accordingly, it is empty talk. And you have to pay the charges back, otherwise you are without power. Grrr, I hate prepayment meters!

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