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Hi,

 

I'm after some advice, having looked on the internet for hours and not finding anything relevant!

 

I have a disciplinary hearing on Tuesday. I think I have got a very good case and hope to be cleared. However, I have the opportunity to take someone to the hearing, all the advice I've been given is not to go on my own - is that good advice?

 

I work in a small firm, just a few employees. We don't have a union and I have been told not to have contact with anyone in the firm. So I don't know who I can take to the hearing.

 

Also if I take someone, can they speak up for me or help me in any way? I'm not the best speaker and get very nervous and stutter sometimes. I'm going to feel under pressure as it is.

 

Any help and advice on how to handle things will be gratefully rec'd. Thank you.

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You can take a work collegue and they can't put a restriction on who you associate with. Perhaps they have said that to make it easier for themselves, no witness means they could work out what they and you said after the hearing has happened.

 

A work collegue may not want to accompany you for fear of reprisal.

They cannot speak for you, but can take notes.

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IMHO you are able to take one of the following a trade union official, or a work colleague it is your right look at this link, www.acas.org.uk/CHttpHandler.ashx?id=272&p=0 please refer to pages 32 and 33.

 

Your employer may allow someone else, if I'm honest I doubt that they will.

I feel as the meeting is so close you should ask them to delay the meeting in order that you can contact such a colleague.

 

Andy

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I work in a small firm, just a few employees. We don't have a union and I have been told not to have contact with anyone in the firm. So I don't know who I can take to the hearing.

 

 

They can't do this.

 

They can enforce no contact during work time, but outside of that, they can't; nor discipline anybody who breaches this "instruction".

 

What if you wife or parent worked there?

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How did you get on with your hearing? I have just discovered this site, and find myself in a similar situation to you. I also work in a small company and have been asked to attend a disciplinary hearing. I can not take in a work colleague as apparently I have been bad mouthing my boss to one of them (she won't tell me who) so it's impossible to ask anyone. I am not a member of a trade union, so my brother who is an HR officer offered to sit in with me. I have been told by my employer that this is not allowed. My contract states who I CAN be accompanied by, but not who I CAN NOT. Is this splitting hairs? Also my meeting was scheduled for this afternoon, but was cancelled late yesterday. Do they have to give a reasonable time for cancellation eg 24 hours?

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