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They have already got the stay. This is a hearing to have it set aside.

Do the directions say that they have to set it up Penfold?

 

 

Yes, " The Defendant's Legal Representative is ordered to arrange the telephone hearing."

 

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Question is, if they don't set it up - what happens? Does the judge find for the claimant or just leave the stay in anyway?

 

 

I guess I could ask for strike out based on not complying with court order/ direction?

 

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Sorry ,Freaky, what I meant to say was 'they must be pretty sure they're going to get the stay upheld' - icon11.gif one word makes a difference doesn't it!

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Sorry ,Freaky, what I meant to say was 'they must be pretty sure they're going to get the stay upheld' - icon11.gif one word makes a difference doesn't it!

 

 

Can someone please explain why is a telephone hearing so expensive? Surely in this day and age a three way call is not that bad?

 

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Sorry I don't know Penfold - maybe because it's got to be a dedicated line specially set up - but I know the banks paid up rather than do it....

 

Ps Thanks to whoever gave me a rep tic ?

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Freaky, I just don't know! I just got the impression that when the judge ordered one in my case (twice), they came back immediately with an offer. 1x Barclays, 1x HSBC

 

It may be the hassle of setting one up, bearing in mind what solicitors charge for an hourly rate :rolleyes: or it may be the cost- but I don't think I've ever heard a price mentioned :?

 

Have we got any telephone engineers or sales people on the forum who could tell us?

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I have heard a few times that is is the expense that puts them off from setting these things up but I don't think it would compair to paying a barrister to attend court.

 

Lets hope there are some BT engineers out there who can tell us.

 

 

My thoughts too.

 

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love it freaky..........lol. liek the new avatar.............

 

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theres a couple oif links... with some info on them.... not sure if DG will use BT

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theres a couple oif links... with some info on them.... not sure if DG will use BT

 

You're a little beaver,Auburn, digging out that lot.........:)

 

Well, these options seem to be as cheap as chips, so not sure where the cost comes in? BT is apparently 80% more than the first one, but even that's not bank-breaking - Oops! sorry, no pun intended! :D

 

Be interesting to see what information the court give Penfold .........

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You're a little beaver,Auburn, digging out that lot.........:)

 

Well, these options seem to be as cheap as chips, so not sure where the cost comes in? BT is apparently 80% more than the first one, but even that's not bank-breaking - Oops! sorry, no pun intended! :D

 

Be interesting to see what information the court give Penfold .........

 

 

Court has merely reitterated that Defendant will speak to the call conference operator to organise. That's it...sit and wait, but I have told Judge do not know proceedure and told DG to ring me too so no excuse for either of them. Trying to cover all bases...

 

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told DG to ring me too

 

I wouldn't wait for them to tell you the arrangements, Penfold they'd like nothing better than a hearing without you there...... I think I'd e-mail(with receipt request) or fax them for details of what they're setting up and when - that way if they don't answer you've got proof that you asked..... :)

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I wouldn't wait for them to tell you the arrangements, Penfold they'd like nothing better than a hearing without you there...... I think I'd e-mail(with receipt request) or fax them for details of what they're setting up and when - that way if they don't answer you've got proof that you asked..... :)

 

 

LOL True fully expecting them to play the game. In a way I would not mind, because i will be on them before the date, but make the court aware of the letters etc. (all will be recorded too)

 

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fully expecting them to play the game

 

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S'cuse me while I change my pants! :D Tell me you're kidding........LOL :grin: :grin:

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of course, but who knows what and how they will do things now with more and more people are applying to set aside the stays. We will have to monitor what the Judges do and say. I guess next month we will have a better picture after a few people get their hearings...

 

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guess next month we will have a better picture after a few people get their hearings...

 

 

 

Sorry, you're right, Penfold - my son is one of them.......:)

 

I guess I'm just an old cynic LOL! - comes of dealing with banks for the last year and reading the posts of people who they've ruined, lied to and misled, whilst plundering their accounts with unlawful charges. :D

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Sorry, you're right, Penfold - my son is one of them.......:)

 

I guess I'm just an old cynic LOL! - comes of dealing with banks for the last year and reading the posts of people who they've ruined, lied to and misled, whilst plundering their accounts with unlawful charges. :D

 

 

No problems!

 

I truely believe I have an angle that may just get somewhere, but I would rather fail on my own than let anyone else try and fail...

 

If it works well that will be great and the walls may fall down again...

 

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Loving your attitude Penfold!!! The more people that start thinking outside the box the better! The banks will not win on this issue in the long run as long as people don't give up!

 

 

Thanks for the reputation then mate...lol

 

Anyway it really takes the mickey all this. I hope and trust that the judicial system will realise that the public is not interested in waiting several years for a result...We are entitled to a quick and fair trial, why have these guys been allowed to payout shed loads, never go to court and yet now have a right to just postpone the inevitable?

 

Come on guys...Fight the good fight,

 

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