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    • Including Default Notice Andy? Ok, I think this is the best I can do.. it all makes sense with references to their WS. They have included exhibits that dates don't match the WS about them, small but still.. if you're going to reference letters giving dates, then the exhibits should be correct, no? I know I redacted them too much, but one of the dates differs to the WS by a few months. IN THE ******** County Court Claim No. [***] BETWEEN: LC Asset 2 S.A.R.L CLAIMANT AND [***] DEFENDANT ************ _________________________ ________ WITNESS STATEMENT OF [***] _________________________ ________ I, [***], being the Defendant in this case will state as follows; I make this Witness Statement in support of my defence in this claim. 1. I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much-reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already written off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimant’s witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment. As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights. This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information). The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 2. The Claim relates to an alleged Credit Card agreement between the Defendant and Bank of Scotland plc. Save insofar of any admittance it is accepted that the Defendant has had contractual agreements with Bank of Scotland plc in the past, the Defendant is unaware as to what alleged debt the Claimant refers. 3. The Defendant requested a copy of the CCA on the 24/12/2022 along with the standard fee of £1.00 postal order, to which the defendant received a reply from the Claimant dated 06/02/2023. To this date, the Claimant has failed to disclose a valid agreement and proof as per their claim that this is enforceable, that Default Notice and Notice of Assignment were sent to and received by the Defendant, on which their claim relies. The Claimant is put to strict proof to verify and confirm that the exhibit *** is a true copy of the agreement and are the true Terms and Conditions as issued at the time of inception of the online application and execution of the agreement. 4. Point 3 is noted. The Claimant pleads that a default notice has been served upon the defendant as evidenced by Exhibit [***]. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 5. Point 6 is noted and disputed. The Defendant cannot recall ever having received the notice of assignment as evidenced in the exhibit marked ***. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 6. Point 11 is noted and disputed. See 3. 7. Point 12 is noted, the Defendant doesn’t recall receiving contact where documentation is provided as per the Claimants obligations under CCA. In addition, the Claimant pleads letters were sent on dates given, yet those are not the letters evidenced in their exhibits *** 8. Point 13 is noted and denied. Claimant is put to strict proof to prove allegations. 9. The Claimant did not provide a true copy of the CCA in response to the Defendants request of 24/12/2022. The Claimant further claims that the documents are sufficient to pursue a Judgement and are therefore copies of original documents in their possession. Conclusion 10. Without the Claimant providing a valid true copy of the executed Credit agreement that complies with the CCA, the Claimant has no grounds on which to enforce this alleged debt. 11. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter such negotiations with the Claimant. On receipt of this claim I could not recall the precise details of the agreement or any debt and sought clarity from the claimant by way of a Section 78 request. The Claimant failed to comply. I can only assume as this was due to the Claimant not having any enforceable documentation and issuing a claim in hope of an undefended default judgment.   Statement of Truth I, ********, the Defendant, believe the facts stated within this Witness Statement to be true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in it’s truth. Signed: _________________________ _______ Dated: _____________________
    • AMEX and TSB the 2 Creditors who you need to worry about the least, ever!  Just stop paying them and forget about it, ignore all their threat o gram letters.  Only if, and with these 2 it's a massive if, you end up with a claim form you need to respond, and there will be plenty of help here.
    • No, nothing from Barclays. Turns out i have 2 accounts on here, and i posted originally on the other one. Sorry about that.  
    • Always send with proof of posting from your Post Office, so there is a trail. Conversations , are designed to intimidate into paying, Emails are designed as another way of bombarding. Only EVER communicate in writing, by post.  
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having looked through these threads, i realise that im seeing the name of 3 mobile a few too many times. i wish id seen this earlier and id never signed up with them.

i to cut a very long, dreary, and somewhat exhausting story short, i purchased a 3 contract 35 quid a month in january via an independant company, dunno if im allowed to say the name or not. they promised me chashback so id pay virtually nothing, by the 4rth month.

turns out the company stopped taking any of my phone calls, or responding, when the time came to cough up my money, and now i can no longer afford the contract! ive tried numerous times, phoning 3 as well the company but its like talking to a blank wall. they will n ot cancel my contract! ive cancelled my direct debit to them as well, n ive told em ill see em in court!

now ive got two questions!

1)who is my contract actually with? 3 or the company i brought it from?

2)do i have a chance in court if i only made a contract with an independant company and as they have not honoured their end of the contract, i dont need to honour mine?

what shall i do?

help me, coz to be honest, i NEVA wann have to talk to them customer service ppl again!

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1) Your network contract is with 3. It is 3 that is providing you with a service, and you are paying 3.

2) You almost certainly have a contract with 3. The fact that you also had an agreement with a separate company regarding cashback is almost certainly irrelevant, and you still have to continue to pay 3. If you do not pay 3, you will probably find that they will disconnect you and pursue you for the full remaining line rental of your contract, and you will damage your credit rating.

 

If the company you had your cashback deal with is still in business, you may be able to pursue them for the sum owed to you through the courts. However, this will not be instantaneous.

 

Some people have had some success getting 3 to reduce their line rental bills, having explained that they are unable to pay. See numerous other threads in this forum.

 

Never enter a mobile phone contract you can't afford.

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I appreciate you'd be better informed if you joined this forum BEFORE you signed up - but it's unfair to complain about 3UK, the problem you describe in not under the control of ANY network, and failing cashback schemes (which are very much like pyramid schemes in a way) were so common - are less so now as people are more knowledgeable about how volatile these dealer promises can be.

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Pursue the cashback company, pm me their name if you cant get a hold of them i can usually find a lot of information about a company and may be able to assist. It does seem there are a lot of things like this going on

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buzby, in fairness 3 seem to be particularly guilty of letting any sheister set up as a reseller. i'm sure i've heard that they're clamping down a bit, which can only be a good thing.

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The problem for 3UK, is the contract and deal have been set up correctly. It is because the 'cashback' scheme is underwritten by the dealer and not the network that the problems arise. They are using the dealers commission to pay for the cashback, and if this doesn't materialise as the dealer expects, the customer is left standing as the dealer goes to the wall. No network has been immune from this and 3UK now has onerous conditions in place for their retailers to stop this happening. Yes, they have chucked out dealers who have tried to con the public, so they've done what they can. The T&C regulating the situation are those of the network, which won;t refer to the cashback as the promotion had nothing to do with them.

 

The answer is to explain to 3UK the situation and their standard response is to allow a tariff modification that will cut down the monthly spend to help the consumer caught in this trap. If the dealer is no longer a 3UK agency, this will be a slam-dunk.

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BASH.COM LTD

126A UPTON LANE

LONDON

E7 9LW

Company No. 05639881

 

Looks as though the company is being wound up (closing)

I dont think you will get much luck getting anything from them. I will look for more

 

Ok the company look to be doomed, i found another company who are linked to them in some way, they may be able to provide more info

 

Talk2 Sales Marketing

 

I will keep looking

Told you it was bad

4.22(SC) - Notice of constitution/continuance of liquidation/creditors committee12/03/20064.22(SC)

 

http://www.creditgate.com/companysearch/BASH.COM+LTD.aspx

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hey, im somewhat happy to say that after months of sending letters to 3, and asking them to deal with my solicitor, 3 came to a compromise saying that theyd give me credit on my account and reduce my line rental. i was very happy and accepted it! but a coupla days later, they turned around and sed that in order to reduce the line rental, id have to carry out an xtra 6 months on my contract, so in total, 24 months with them altogether! just wanted to know if they are allowed to turn back on their word after everyfing was settled?!

dont worry, though cos im thinking of accepting their renewed offer, and the sooner i get away from 3, the better!

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The sneaky bar stewards! This contract extension is NOT ON! Your agreement was based on the details discussed at the time. Their subsequent revised offer disadvantages you, and you don't (indeed shouldn't) have to accept it. Of course, you could argue if they are locking you in for another 6 months, you'd want and expect a new handset in compensation for their enforced additional lock-in period. :D

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