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Yes only with dwf. The first letter I received was explaining that I have not responded to the first letter they sent which I did not receive at all and then the second letter came they said again saying we have not heard from you we are extending this another 14 days but at that point a couple of days before I called them on the phone saying I have received this and supposedly i owe money for stolen goods and that I need to see the breakdown which they then emailed to me and dwf said this was what we were trying to send to you at first and I told them we have not received your first letter only one asking for demand of payment. On my second call to them I asked can you list the things that I have supposedly stole to which they replied “we normally have this on file but I can’t seem to find this on your file” -
oh well, at least your eign of terror is over now. so no contact directly since from/to sainsbury's. everything since has only been with DWF? -
Replying to above this was on the day that two store detectives approached me and my friend and took us into the back room and spoke to us when they explained they have been watching
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as my learned friend above...and.. sadly because just like DCA's and initially yourself in this case, you believed they have some magical powers ...they DON'T. 85% of people blindly pay DCA's cause they know no better and think they are BAILIFFS. only the RETAILER can ever do court and none have done this on a silly member of joe public that did something stupid since the infamous 2012 Oxford case on retail loss. BAILIFFS can only ever be involved after you've been to court and lost a CCJ, fat chance re above... and anyway, no BAILIFF has any right of forced entry anyway on consumer debts even with a judgement so......... stop panicking and thinking everything that doesn't apply.. forget about them but p'haps a confidential GP visit might be a very good move... what slightly concerns me more here is: who are 'them' that told you they'd reviewed a week of CCTV and come up with several shoplifting instances over that time amounting to the above? have you directly contacted or had contact from Sainsbury's? and know they HAVE done this? or is this DWF willy waving and they tricked you into admitting several previous successful thefts... this is not the norm... dx
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next step then await the N157 from her local court giving the time and date of a future hearing some month in the future. now she MUST file a witness statement 14 days (typically) to both the court and kearns . so cant allow to much of a time lag before you are aware of that and get her WS done. wack us up 2 multipage pdf files please one of what they returned for the CRP reply . and one for everything they sent back in 2022 you've found. we do not need statements. ideally it would be nice to see their WS before hers is finally filed. dx
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