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Welcome to the Nasty West forum. First thing is to let us know what you want help with? Loads of help available

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/site-questions-suggestions/53182-cant-find-what-youre.html#post436526

 

A person is only as big as the dream they dare to live.

 

 

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Its your money taken unlawfully from your account and you have a legal right to claim it back.

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Can any one help me??

:???: Have been in dispute with Nat West since Feb 07. Have got as far as claiming with MCOL. Nat West have until tommorrow to do something.

Today have had an offer of £1384.00 which is all the charges less interest and court fees. Am very tempted but I dont see why they should not pay for the interest and court fees as well. Do I write to them refusing the offer and ask again for interest and court Fees or do I write to the bank? Any one got a template letter refusing the offer? :???:

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Can any one help me??

 

yes whats the problem, the answers to most questions can be found in the FAQs and the step by step instructions, also there is a lot of information in the threads in your bank forum.

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http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/bank-templates-library/25716-rejecting-offers.html. Good luck its your money taken unlawfully from your account and you have alegal right to claim it back with interest. I have just returned the same cheque for £3,700 twice.

A person is only as big as the dream they dare to live.

 

 

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Well spotted ppman.

A person is only as big as the dream they dare to live.

 

 

Good things come to he who waits

 

 

Its your money taken unlawfully from your account and you have a legal right to claim it back.

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Yes got very excited about offer and posted first one by accident.

Have found FAQs and have done my rejection letter! Nat West have until 2morrow how will I know if theyve acknowledged? And also what is a LAB?

Sarah Anne

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A lab is short for a laboratory or a labrador, biggrin.gif An lba is what you want. Which is short for a Letter Before Action. http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/bank-templates-library/92-3-letter-before-action.html

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:D Thanks for that!!

How will I know if the bank has acknowledged the court claim? Will it appear on the mcol website as acknowledged or will the court write to me? I intend to apply for judgement tommorow if Ive not heard from them or should I wait till Wednesday. It all gets a bit frightening from now could I lose at this late stage??:eek:

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Just keep checking the MCOL site. They will inform you. Give them a ring on their help desk. YOU WILL WIN. Be patient. They unlawfully took money from your account and you have a legal right to claim it back.

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Help!! Have been reading penalty charges forum and realised I have not sent any info to court except basic outline of case in claim document. Am I too late? In process of copying it all now. Will this go against me.??

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No, what you need to do today by recorded delivery, is send your full list, schedule of charges to your court with a simple letter, stating, can they attach the full breakdown of charges (which you have already supplied to the bank before) ask them to attach it to your court file. But send it recorded or drop it in in person that way you know they have received it safely. Its not too late. Just dont panic, and do it today.

 

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Evening everyone,

OK need some help here have got to the 28 days after issue and Nasty West have acknowledged after 14 days but nothing since and today is the 28th day. Have tried to get judgement online through mcol but they say its too early!! I thought after close of business you could ask for judgement could anyone advise me. I started the claim online on the 26th April have I got my dates wrong!!

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Tisn't that you've got your dates wrong - it's just that it genuinely is too early to apply for judgement!

 

You'll more than likely find that cobbetts have got a defence in at the last minute. If you apply for judgement too soon - they'll more than likely ask the court for a stay to give them more time to submit the defence which will just drag your claim on longer than necessary.

 

Give it another couple of days then check to see if they've filed their defence. xx :p

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You never know.......... they may have forgotten about you!!! But it's best to give it another couple of days just to make sure!! xx ;)

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Afternoon everyone

Recieved defense this morning from Corbetts!! They really are crafty buggers doing it at last poss min..I honestly thought it would be a lot easier than this!! All the legal jargon is a bit worrying have just spent last hour reading about cpr18 and wot nots now head is busting. Am going to try and get things ready for court etc but not sure where to start!! Hopefully Nat west will make an offer.

Am going to start by sending Corbetts letter acknowledging there defence then wait for instruction off court.

Is there anything else I should be doing at this stage cos Im bricking it and want to make sure everything is right and that I dont forget to in clude anything.....?

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