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Ok Done the e-mail & added this on the end:-

 

''I wish all further communications in writing or e-mail; phone calls will be considered harassment and will not be answered. If they continue I will make a report to the relevant authorities.

Please note payments have been regularly made to Littlewoods Extra Ltd & i will continue to do so for the present...''

 

I want to carry on making payments & as i only have payment slips for littlewoods, ill pay them, the arrangement is for £2.50 a month.

 

Hope i did right!!

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Just been looking for the address for Littlewoods to CCA them & realised i have been paying 'Legal Direct Recoveries Ltd' for years not littlewoods!!!

Letters date back as far as 2001 - so do i CCA them not littlewoods???

I have no letters from Littlewoods!

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This is in the CCA letter -

 

Please note that I do not acknowledge any debt to your company unless, or until, a true copy of the signed executed agreement is sent to me, together with proof that the alleged debt has been legally assigned to yourselves.

Does that cover it?

Also does it matter if i put in my e-mail that i am contining to pay littlewoods when i should have said legal direct??

Sorry to be a pain, but i'm very nervous about this

AND on top of being in a car accident Thursday - that was not my fault!!!

What next eh!!?!

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So I send this to all 3?? By letter or e-mail?

What about the e-mail i just sent??

& i CCA moorcroft & littlewoods but not legal direct?

Or do i not CCA now

I'm getting very confused & tired!!!

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Should i send this e-mail to moorcroft :-

 

I wish to amend the following statement made in my previous e-mail:-

''Please note payments have been regularly made to Littlewoods Extra Ltd & i will continue to do so for the present.''

Amended to:-

''Please note payments have been regularly made to Legal Direct Recoveries Ltd.''

I will be writing in more detail regarding the matter...

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Don't think you need to amend your e-mail tracey as Legal Direct Recoveries have been acting on behalf of Littlewoods, so by a roundabout route you have been paying Littlewoods.

HAVE YOU BEEN TREATED UNFAIRLY BY CREDITORS OR DCA's?

 

BEWARE OF CLAIMS MANAGEMENT COMPANIES OFFERING TO WRITE OFF YOUR DEBTS.

 

 

Please note opinions given by rory32 are offered informally as a lay-person in good faith based on personal experience. For legal advice, you must always consult a registered and insured lawyer.

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So I send this to all 3?? By letter or e-mail?

What about the e-mail i just sent??

& i CCA moorcroft & littlewoods but not legal direct?

Or do i not CCA now

I'm getting very confused & tired!!!

 

Thanks Rory

Any chance you can answer any of the above so i can sleep tonight!!! :oops:

Oh & 1 more question - can i send the above letter together with a CCA?

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Just tried to find address for littlewoods Extra

All i can find is that it now seems to be called littlewoods direct & the only address is their ''brand new'' head office at:

 

Skyways House

Speke Road

Speke

Liverpool

L70 1AB

 

Should i send my CCA there?

what department should i put on the envelope?

Will it get to the right people??

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HI i have had dealings with morecroft on several occasions including a man collecting on there behalf at the door and as i told them on the phone and at the door. they have no legal right to the debt and that i do not have to have any dealings with them and will only talk to the owners of the debt in question and any charges they may attempt to add are there problem and can put them where the sun dosn't shine

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Tracey the address you have is correct for liitlewoods extra (just add First Floor to the address). I checked on the Info Commissioners Website for you. With regards to department just put either Customer Services or Legal Compliance Specialist - they'll get the general idea and its down to them to make sure it goes to the right dept not you.

With reagrds who you CCA request, send them letters by recorded delivery rather than e-mails. You can if you want send CCA requests to all 3 but sending it to Moorcroft and Littlewoods is enough as Moorcroft are the DCA hassling you and Littlewoods are the original creditor.

By CCA requesting them you are placing the account in dispute and a DCA can not lawfully take any action against you (or for that matter the original creditor) while the debt is in dispute.

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Well i checked my e-mails this afternoon after i e-mailed moorcroft

(post 17) - no reply!

Phone rings at 8pm tonight, I hang up & guess who it was!

Dont they read the e-mail it said dont ring me!!

The phone is now off the hook.

Just re-checked e-mails & stil no reply! They cant want to speak to me that bad!

Havnt posted the CCA & letter yet as i didnt get chance but will definatly do it tomorrow.

Still petrified but getting mad now too!

Might stick a financial statement in the letter too so they can see i cant afford to repay them, if they let me carry on paying what i have been for the last 6 years i would just leave things!

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You need to get the CCA letter off urgently, enclose £1.00 recorded delivery that's the only way to get them to stop ringing. Don't offer any payment plan. just sit tight they can't ring after 9.00 pm. Should be 8.00 am till 9.00 pm if they abide by the rules.

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Well i checked my e-mails this afternoon after i e-mailed moorcroft

(post 17) - no reply!

Phone rings at 8pm tonight, I hang up & guess who it was!

Dont they read the e-mail it said dont ring me!!

The phone is now off the hook.

Just re-checked e-mails & stil no reply! They cant want to speak to me that bad!

Havnt posted the CCA & letter yet as i didnt get chance but will definatly do it tomorrow.

Still petrified but getting mad now too!

Might stick a financial statement in the letter too so they can see i cant afford to repay them, if they let me carry on paying what i have been for the last 6 years i would just leave things!

Get their number barred from your phone. You pay the Bill you choose who to answer. If by mistake they get through hang up. Its that simple.

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Well i've done it!!..gulp..2 CCA's to moorcroft (+ a financial statement & the other letter) & littlewoods (+the other letter) & the other letter to legal direct! Sent them all recorded delivery & put the 2 postal orders in with the CCA! Cost £6!!!!:eek:

I cant believe the post office charges £1.45 for a £1 postal order!!

Phone rang bang on 8pm tonight - didnt answer it, pressed 1471 & it was moorcroft..again!

Off to check if they replied to my e-mail

Any bets out there??

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Well done tracey....you can now sit back amd watch moorcroft squirm.

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Well there's a surprise!!

HAVE YOU BEEN TREATED UNFAIRLY BY CREDITORS OR DCA's?

 

BEWARE OF CLAIMS MANAGEMENT COMPANIES OFFERING TO WRITE OFF YOUR DEBTS.

 

 

Please note opinions given by rory32 are offered informally as a lay-person in good faith based on personal experience. For legal advice, you must always consult a registered and insured lawyer.

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Just been reading another thread & they said they can track the recorded delivery letters.

How do i do that?

Sorry never sent anything recorded delivery before!

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Just been reading another thread & they said they can track the recorded delivery letters.

How do i do that?

Sorry never sent anything recorded delivery before!

Go on to the post office web site you can check. Although sometimes it takes a couple of days for it to show up. There is a number on your receipt you can ring to confirm delivery

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