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    • I've read loads of old messages about what to do but feel my case is different, it's a bit of a back story so ill break it down. - Had a letter from an Italian province in July of 2020 for a speeding offence in 2019 for 575 euros, was in a hire car I used for work, no longer work for them and heard nothing from either. - Thought blimey, but went to pay it anyway, it had doubled to over 1100 euros, yeah I can't afford paying that, filled out the attached information sheet to say it was me driving but I have no money or job due to COVID (true story) and sent it back (durrrr) - Heard nothing until December of 2023, a letter from an appointed solicitor from Florence saying if I don't pay, we will chase you through the legal system with costs beared to you. - May of this year, I get a letter from CLI (Credit Limits International) basically saying they have been appointed to carry out the collection, £1475. - Stupidly, I started the 'three letter process' asking for proof etc, and they replied a few days ago with a copy of the fines I had received from Italy, they stated the debt has no terms and conditions as it relates to a fine in Italy and the debt is not subject to the Consumer Credit agreement. I translate that to "at the moment we don't own the debt and have been given authority from Italy to pursue the debt". That is where I am currently at, I would begrudge giving in and paying an obscene amount. As seen from similar threads, I know a threat of a visit is coming, followed by a threat of court action, but annoyingly it hasn't been mentioned how these cases were concluded and the threads are now locked. I've read to ignore them, but can't help but feel that because it's such a substantial amount that they will feel it's worthy of pursuing this no matter the hoops they have to jump through. Along with admitting it was me driving and opening the can of worms by contacting the DCA, it wouldn't look good for me should it ever get to a courtroom.  Has anyone with previous experience managed to 'get away with it'? Anyone know what they're capable of other than nagging me? I'm not after any moral judgment.
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    • hi all, i will list my curmcumstance first then list the details of the penalty charge - we are 2 diabled people being affected by the cost of living crisis and are skint etc. i am disabled with mobility issues(arthritis in knees and ankles and gout) and cant operate car pedals anymore so i let a friend up the road use my car in exchange for her driving me about. its a good arrangement as i get a 'chauffer' and she gets the use of car. the car is parked in her drive which is better as i was refused a disabled space (even on appeal) and too much congestion to park the car outside my house. my friend is vulnerable as she has suffered depression and suicidal thoughts since the loss of her mother a few years back, she is dyslexic, she is a carer for one of her sons that is disabled due to mental illness and mobility. she lives in a council house and cannot work. we went to iceland ..attracted by the 10items for £10 offer - we've never been there before. a large artic lorry was parked accross the car park blocking the view of one of the parking signs and blocking the disabled bays where the pay&display machine is. by the time she helped me out of the car and then went to see if it was pay&display then came back to me at the car she said she thinks it was pay even for disabled, so we looked for change in the car which we didnt have (she normally goes asda which dont need to pay for parking)so then we said we'd either go get change or go to asda...so then by the time it took her to help me back in and get out the car park took 15 minutes...5 minutes overstay past the 10minutes grace. the letter from excel parking came through and i sent it back giving her name as driver (before i saw on here that you shouldnt name the driver) then i appealed explaining what happened (lorry blocking etc) and even said we were being descriminated (advised by citizen advice)as we are disabled and 15minutes is not long enough for a crippled disabled man and a woman with dyslexia to read and understandd the sign and get out, then back in the car and look for change then get out the car park in 15minutes. i even explained she was a vulnerable person on anti-depressants and even sent a photo of medication and said if you need a doctors note then let me know....the appeal was rejected. i've emailed iceland over 50 times and they just wont tell excel to cancel this charge - they are ignorant and ive even asked them why they have a webpage saying 'iceland combatting the cost of living crisis' pretending to help their customers and they wont comment...they'd rather put more stress and anxiety on an already suicidal vulnerable person just to get money out of them..so their 'help' during this crisis is a lie as it wont even extend to disabled customers. she has now received 2 letters from DCBL saying she owes £170 for 5minutes of overstay. the last one is a final demand. as she cant read or write very well ive sent a recorded letter to DCBL (as advised by citizen advice) asking not to attend the property due to a vulnerable woman inside the property as it will only exasperate the situation, they have ignored it and basically said we dont care, you still owe. could anyone please advise - we are not very good with letters or these situations and are slow on the uptake.   1 The date of infringement? 28th dec 2023   2 Have you yet appealed to the parking company yet? [Y/N?] yes   If you have then please post up whatever you sent and how you sent it and the date you sent it, suitably redacted. [as a PDF- follow the upload guide]cant do that - will have to get my son to do it when he visits   Has there been a response? yes   Please AS A PDF FILE  ONLY ..post it up as well, suitably redacted. - follow the upload guide]cant do that - will have to get my son to do it when he visits   If you haven't appealed yet - .........DONT ! seek advice on your topic first.   Have you received a Notice To Keeper? (NTK) [must be received by you between 29-56 days] yes   What date is on it? 15th january 2024   Did the NTK provide photographic evidence? yes   [scan up BOTHSIDES to ONE PDF of the PCN and your NTK - follow the upload guide] please LEAVE IN LOCATION AND ALL DATES/TIMES/£'scant do that - will have to get my son to do it when he visits   3 Did the NTK mention Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA) [Y/N?] not on the front - maybe on the back but cannot find the letter now   4 If you appealed after receiving the NTK, did the parking company give you any information regarding the further appeals process? [it is well known that parking companies will reject any appeal whatever the circumstances] yes   5 Who is the parking company? excel   6. Where exactly [Carpark name and town] did you park? gravesend in iceland    
    • Hi Dave, I had no updates on this PCN since my last post in July 2019.  I received no further communications from the parking company.  I changed my address in May 2022. Thanks, I will send a letter to Excel parking to inform about the change in the address. 
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hurrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay !!

you did it!!!! well done. you are an inspiration to us all. Never give up.

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Subject Access Request sent 20 June

£10 cheque cashed 6 July

16 July - Statements received

£1024.07 prelim let sent special del 26/07/06

Reply from S Higley 31/07/06 (how fast was that):D

02/08/06 LBA sent to Bishopsgate with proof of delivery from PO

Acknowledgement let dated 7Aug from S Higley

Moneyclaim issued 6.09.06 £1433.94 :cool:

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Congratulations, are you going to accept the confidentiality clause as well? x

03/10/06-Data Protection Act request sent via recorded delivery

06/10/06- Letter signed for. 15th Nov cut off date.

10/10/06- Statements come in tatty brown envelope.

Will be claiming for £1946.22

23/10/06- Preliminary request for £1946.22 sent recorded delivery.

24/10/06-Letter signed for. 7th Nov cut off.

08/11/06- Standard letter received wanting more time.

 

23/03/07- Time up for NatWest to say whether defending or not.

19/03/07- Acknowledgement of service and saying was going to defend came through.

04/04/07- Deadline for Natwests defence.

03/04/07- Defence filed came through.

05/05/07- Letter from Court to say claim stayed until 27/06/07

25/06/07- Letter from court, claim stayed until further notice.

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Well done mate!! :)

23-09-06: Data Protection S.A.R Sent

 

06-10-06: Statements Received

 

13-10-06: Pre-Lim Letter & Schedule for £2677 Sent

 

24-10-06: First Refusal Received From Stuart Higley

 

01-11-06: Second Refusal Received From Stuart Higley

 

15-11-06: MCOL Submitted

 

30-11-06: Acknowledgment of Service Received

 

21-12-06: Defence Received from Cobbetts

04-01-07: Offer of £1700 Received from Cobbetts

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whoa whoa whoa!!! calm down!!!

 

i havent accepted it yet....just thinking on how much NatWest value my confidentiality....besides after them making me wait, isn't it my turn?

 

Mickie aka The Toilet Bandit.

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08-05-06 - Data Protection Act sent to NW

08-05-06 - MP letter sent to Oliver Letwin (Cons, Dorset West)

25-05-06 - Statements and Data Protection Act received (14 days)

07-06-06 - Prelim letter sent to S.Higley claiming £1226.03

09-06-06 - LBA sent, due to negative response

29-06-06 - Claim served (Acknowledged 30-06-06)

27-07-06 - NW's Deadline - received 27-07-06

24-08-06 - AQ received and returned - Deadline 08-09-06 - Both returned

20-09-06 - 1st Offer - £850.00 with confidentiality REJECTED

05-10-06 - 2nd Offer - £1456.80 with confidentiality ACCEPTED

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Quite right Mickie......just that no one could wait......U know its a bit like those ppl that put their Christmas decorations up in November....;)

 

Now confidentiality ....er ahem (cough) (cough again )..............dont think they will take as long with that 1........Miss B will certainly want this thread banished to the Bag cellars.........but somehow I think people will be reading this for the very foreseeable future:cool: ...........

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On the confidentialty bit, I phoned up Cobetts and told them I wont sign it, My court date was this tuesday and said to them, I wont sign it so you can either carry on with the court case or accept that i wont sign the agreement.

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03/10/06 - NatWest Claim Settled in Full to the amount of £2344

 

09/10/06 - 2nd Natwest Claim - Pre Lim sent | Halifax CC S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) Sent | Natwest CC S.A.R Sent

 

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Well done mate, what a thread, I think you should decline their offer just so we can keep you here for a little while longer.

 

Wahoooooooooooooooooooooo I just hope mine goes a little smoother but you are a testament to us all.

 

 

Chuck

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S.A.R. Sent 22.08.06

S.A.R.s Signed for 23.08.06

Recieved Statements Yr2000-2002 16.09.06

Non Compliance Sent 04.10.06

All Statements Recieved 18.10.06

Prelim Sent 23.10.06

Prelim Recieved 24.10.06

Prelim Reply Recieved 28.10.06

LBA Sent 8.11.06 / LBA Recieved 9.11.06

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Congratulations Bandit!!!

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NatWest - MCOL issued 31/07/06; NW acknowledged 03/08/06; NW Defended 31/08/06; Cobbetts offered 60% 27/09/06; NW settled in FULL!!!! 07/10/06

Halifax cc - LBA sent 27/07/06; No Chance

First Direct - Data Protection Act sent 25/07/06; PRELIM sent 07/08/06; Offer received 12/08/06; Refused 18/08/06; 2nd offer rec'd 23/08/06 £1405 without interest (£172) and we accepted:grin:

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well, I've given it a lot of thought and I've decided to take the money. I've weighed up all the options and even though I might have got a bit more out of them, there was, in my opinion, as much chance as them getting to Court and troucing me with the 'fair offer' argument. Maybe I didn't quite have enough bottle. Maybe, I don't know. The only thing I do know is that when I started out on this forum, reading the FAQs, reading the templates, all those months ago, I set out to reclaim back my bank charges, and with this cheque, I have done what I set out to do :)

 

The confidentiality doesn't really bother me, the way I see it as I haven't signed anything until now, I've told the whole world and if anyone does ask me now I have signed, then I know of a 'certain person who spent 5 months chasing it and in the end succeeded'.

 

I mainly just want to thank Dave and BF, for setting this thing up and giving us minions a way of beating the system. I also want to thank everyone that has helped me on my case, whether they are still here or not, you know who you are.

 

The site will definitely be getting a donation from me, and I fancy one of those T-shirts you used to do, do you still do them? I f so, where can I get one? I'll also fill out the survey and if theres any other loose ends I have forgotten, then I'll do them when I get around to them.

 

To all the noobs, i hope my case gives you faith. Fair enough it's taken me longer than most, but I still made it in the end! Like I said earlier, I probably could have got a little more had I gone on, but I might not have. To be a good poker player it's all about bluffing and timing. I feel the time is right for me to leave the table with a larger pile of chips than I had when I started here. If ever you are stuck, read through my case, and see how things went for me at a particular stage and hopefully, knowingly even, you'll come out a winner.

 

Once again my many thanks to everyone at CAG and BAG and any other AG's there are for, in a way, finally getting me debt free after so many years, thank you for getting me in credit with NatWest so I can close their 'goodwill overdraft facility' for the first time in my banking career, as it were. thankyou for making me feel a lot better about myself, making me know that I can achieve things, and finally thank you for putting up with me for all these long months.... *giggle*

 

Have fun guys and keep winning!!

 

Mickie

08-05-06 - Data Protection Act sent to NW

08-05-06 - MP letter sent to Oliver Letwin (Cons, Dorset West)

25-05-06 - Statements and Data Protection Act received (14 days)

07-06-06 - Prelim letter sent to S.Higley claiming £1226.03

09-06-06 - LBA sent, due to negative response

29-06-06 - Claim served (Acknowledged 30-06-06)

27-07-06 - NW's Deadline - received 27-07-06

24-08-06 - AQ received and returned - Deadline 08-09-06 - Both returned

20-09-06 - 1st Offer - £850.00 with confidentiality REJECTED

05-10-06 - 2nd Offer - £1456.80 with confidentiality ACCEPTED

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A legend .......;)

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well done mr bandit, just read your thread from the start, admire your persistance. just starting my claim against nat west, does it make any difference that i have an advantage gold account? also about 3 years ago i had to take a loan out (£1500) to pay back debt, charges & interest. as a seasoned campaigner what do you think

I won £5289 heres how

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/natwest-bank/40703-saint-luco-natwest.html

 

 

ITS NOT WHETHER YOU WON OR LOST, BUT HOW YOU PLAY THE GAME THAT MATTERS. ( OBVIOUSLY A LOSER THEN):D :D :D

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Gold accounts are no problem

You can claim all the charges except the subscription charges (usually a monthly fee of between 10-15.00.

 

If it can be seen that this loan you took out was indeed used for all or part to pay off charges that were unlawful then I would claim for that.

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Congratulations.

 

About time too! ;-)

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Well done matey. I hope they get their arses in gear and offer me what I'm due. I'm waiting on their defence at the mo. I've read this thread from near enough the beginning and its showed me what to do and when to do it.

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NatWest Case Settled

Got the wifes CC Charges back too!

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WOW TB, i have read your claim details and i recieved my court date a week ago and my partial offer letter today, which i have declined.

 

i also noticed that you are local to me! (I'm in Dorch). i showed your thread to my boyfriend who is a BBC journalist for Dorset and would like to arrange an interview if possible? I'll pm you!

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WOW TB, i have read your claim details and i recieved my court date a week ago and my partial offer letter today, which i have declined.

 

i also noticed that you are local to me! (I'm in Dorch). i showed your thread to my boyfriend who is a BBC journalist for Dorset and would like to arrange an interview if possible? I'll pm you!

 

 

oh lovely !!

 

Now Mickie to be EVEN MORE famous !!!..........:grin:

 

Though its not clear if he HAS signed the c.a..

If thats the case then unfortunately he would be unable to contribute anymore.............but alas...his story has already been told for 1 and all !!

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