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The £33.03 charge I never found out what it was but I included it. If I'm thinking right, the charges you're thinking of Smel just have a date and an account number. If it is for £28 then it's an Unarranged Borrowing Fee and you can include that.

08-05-06 - Data Protection Act sent to NW

08-05-06 - MP letter sent to Oliver Letwin (Cons, Dorset West)

25-05-06 - Statements and Data Protection Act received (14 days)

07-06-06 - Prelim letter sent to S.Higley claiming £1226.03

09-06-06 - LBA sent, due to negative response

29-06-06 - Claim served (Acknowledged 30-06-06)

27-07-06 - NW's Deadline - received 27-07-06

24-08-06 - AQ received and returned - Deadline 08-09-06 - Both returned

20-09-06 - 1st Offer - £850.00 with confidentiality REJECTED

05-10-06 - 2nd Offer - £1456.80 with confidentiality ACCEPTED

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sorry for barging into this, how long ago the £33.03 was charged? i have been with NW for more than 7 years, i remember they used to charge £3 something pence daily since the day you have overdawn the od limit. i had a charge was £66.66 but it was years ago.

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NatWest - MCOL issued 31/07/06; NW acknowledged 03/08/06; NW Defended 31/08/06; Cobbetts offered 60% 27/09/06; NW settled in FULL!!!! 07/10/06

Halifax cc - LBA sent 27/07/06; No Chance

First Direct - Data Protection Act sent 25/07/06; PRELIM sent 07/08/06; Offer received 12/08/06; Refused 18/08/06; 2nd offer rec'd 23/08/06 £1405 without interest (£172) and we accepted:grin:

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I picked that charge up on 29 Oct 2004 and had another the same day for £3.00

 

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08-05-06 - Data Protection Act sent to NW

08-05-06 - MP letter sent to Oliver Letwin (Cons, Dorset West)

25-05-06 - Statements and Data Protection Act received (14 days)

07-06-06 - Prelim letter sent to S.Higley claiming £1226.03

09-06-06 - LBA sent, due to negative response

29-06-06 - Claim served (Acknowledged 30-06-06)

27-07-06 - NW's Deadline - received 27-07-06

24-08-06 - AQ received and returned - Deadline 08-09-06 - Both returned

20-09-06 - 1st Offer - £850.00 with confidentiality REJECTED

05-10-06 - 2nd Offer - £1456.80 with confidentiality ACCEPTED

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mine was happened in 2000 and i haven't seen this kind of charging methods anymore. may be they still doing it sometime to random picked accounts. or would that the total amount of charge take away credit interest??? you should consult the robber...i mean the bank!

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NatWest - MCOL issued 31/07/06; NW acknowledged 03/08/06; NW Defended 31/08/06; Cobbetts offered 60% 27/09/06; NW settled in FULL!!!! 07/10/06

Halifax cc - LBA sent 27/07/06; No Chance

First Direct - Data Protection Act sent 25/07/06; PRELIM sent 07/08/06; Offer received 12/08/06; Refused 18/08/06; 2nd offer rec'd 23/08/06 £1405 without interest (£172) and we accepted:grin:

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DISTRICT JUDGE MILDRED has considered the statements of case and allocation questionnaires filed and allocated the claim to the small claims track.

 

The hearing of the claim will take place at 14:00 on the 7 December 2006 at Weymouth County Court, Westwey House, Westwey Road, Weymouth, Dorset, DT4 8TE and should take no longer than 1 hour 30 minutes.

 

The court must be informed immediately if the case is settled by agreement before the hearing date.

 

The Defendant shall provide the Claimant with the information requested in Q1.1 of its request dated 26 July 2006 by 4pm on 6 October 2006

 

Each party shall deliver to every other party and to the court office copies of all documents (including any experts' report) on which he intends to rely at the hearing no later than 03 November 2006.

 

Documents must include the written statements of all witnesses to be relied on (including the Parties themselves).

 

If the Parties have already filed all witness statements and documents to be relied on they must, by the date that documents are due, notify the Court and the other party in writing that no other witness statements or documents are to be filed.

 

The original documents shall be brought to the hearing.

 

Notice to Parties: If you are unable to attend the hearing, you must notify the Court within 7 days and provide details of any other dates to avoid. The Court will then provide you with a further hearing date. Any later request to adjourn must be made by way of a formal application with a £35 fee.

Date: 18 September 2006

 

Here goes....

08-05-06 - Data Protection Act sent to NW

08-05-06 - MP letter sent to Oliver Letwin (Cons, Dorset West)

25-05-06 - Statements and Data Protection Act received (14 days)

07-06-06 - Prelim letter sent to S.Higley claiming £1226.03

09-06-06 - LBA sent, due to negative response

29-06-06 - Claim served (Acknowledged 30-06-06)

27-07-06 - NW's Deadline - received 27-07-06

24-08-06 - AQ received and returned - Deadline 08-09-06 - Both returned

20-09-06 - 1st Offer - £850.00 with confidentiality REJECTED

05-10-06 - 2nd Offer - £1456.80 with confidentiality ACCEPTED

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The Defendant shall provide the Claimant with the information requested in Q1.1 of its request dated 26 July 2006 by 4pm on 6 October 2006

 

What did you ask them? I can't find the details in your thread.

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barracad - everything i've had i've put in here, so I don't know what I've asked them either....guess i'll find out :)

 

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08-05-06 - Data Protection Act sent to NW

08-05-06 - MP letter sent to Oliver Letwin (Cons, Dorset West)

25-05-06 - Statements and Data Protection Act received (14 days)

07-06-06 - Prelim letter sent to S.Higley claiming £1226.03

09-06-06 - LBA sent, due to negative response

29-06-06 - Claim served (Acknowledged 30-06-06)

27-07-06 - NW's Deadline - received 27-07-06

24-08-06 - AQ received and returned - Deadline 08-09-06 - Both returned

20-09-06 - 1st Offer - £850.00 with confidentiality REJECTED

05-10-06 - 2nd Offer - £1456.80 with confidentiality ACCEPTED

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barracad - everything i've had i've put in here, so I don't know what I've asked them either....guess i'll find out

 

Strange... it clearly states you requested from information from them on 26th July and they must respond to it. Not sure how they'll be able to respond if you don't even know what you asked them!

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The Defendant shall provide the Claimant with the information requested in Q1.1 of its request dated 26 July 2006 by 4pm on 6 October 2006

 

I had a quick look through all my stuff and:

 

The only thing relevant to 26 July is Cobbett's defence and CRP18

The only thing relevant to Q1.1 is in their CPR18

In support of your claim please provide details as to what account(s) (giving details of the account name, number and sort code) the charges were applied.

 

I'm gonna phone the Court up on Monday and try and sort this out, seems I have a mighty confuzzled District Judge :(

 

Will let you know what happens there....

 

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08-05-06 - Data Protection Act sent to NW

08-05-06 - MP letter sent to Oliver Letwin (Cons, Dorset West)

25-05-06 - Statements and Data Protection Act received (14 days)

07-06-06 - Prelim letter sent to S.Higley claiming £1226.03

09-06-06 - LBA sent, due to negative response

29-06-06 - Claim served (Acknowledged 30-06-06)

27-07-06 - NW's Deadline - received 27-07-06

24-08-06 - AQ received and returned - Deadline 08-09-06 - Both returned

20-09-06 - 1st Offer - £850.00 with confidentiality REJECTED

05-10-06 - 2nd Offer - £1456.80 with confidentiality ACCEPTED

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Mahe sure u do M

 

Everyone here is waitin !!!;)

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Did you request standard disclosure by the bank of its penalty charging regime in your AQ? Could this be what the judge is referring to? "The defendant must provide the claimant" - you are the claimant so it is the bank that must provide something...

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I just phoned the Court up and yes, the judge got itself in a tizzy and mixed up Defendant and Claimant. So now penning a letter to both Cobbett's and the Court confirming once again my account details....

 

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08-05-06 - Data Protection Act sent to NW

08-05-06 - MP letter sent to Oliver Letwin (Cons, Dorset West)

25-05-06 - Statements and Data Protection Act received (14 days)

07-06-06 - Prelim letter sent to S.Higley claiming £1226.03

09-06-06 - LBA sent, due to negative response

29-06-06 - Claim served (Acknowledged 30-06-06)

27-07-06 - NW's Deadline - received 27-07-06

24-08-06 - AQ received and returned - Deadline 08-09-06 - Both returned

20-09-06 - 1st Offer - £850.00 with confidentiality REJECTED

05-10-06 - 2nd Offer - £1456.80 with confidentiality ACCEPTED

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Well I just wrote a cover letter to the court enclosing post #90 on my thread http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/post-180962.html

 

Hopefully that'll show the incompetance :)

08-05-06 - Data Protection Act sent to NW

08-05-06 - MP letter sent to Oliver Letwin (Cons, Dorset West)

25-05-06 - Statements and Data Protection Act received (14 days)

07-06-06 - Prelim letter sent to S.Higley claiming £1226.03

09-06-06 - LBA sent, due to negative response

29-06-06 - Claim served (Acknowledged 30-06-06)

27-07-06 - NW's Deadline - received 27-07-06

24-08-06 - AQ received and returned - Deadline 08-09-06 - Both returned

20-09-06 - 1st Offer - £850.00 with confidentiality REJECTED

05-10-06 - 2nd Offer - £1456.80 with confidentiality ACCEPTED

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Well I just wrote a cover letter to the court enclosing post #90 on my thread http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/post-180962.html

 

Hopefully that'll show the incompetance :)

 

makes you want to cry doesn't it :mad:

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HSBC Default Removal and £186 charges: N1 claim issued 28/11/06 *WON* 28/02/07 5% donation made

 

Egg Charges: £370. N1 claim issued 24/11/06. *SETTLED IN FULL* 12/01/07 5% donation made

 

Natwest Student: £150. N1 claim issued 24/11/06. *SETTLED IN FULL* 10/12/06 5% donation made

Natwest Credit card: £317.01 INCLUDING CONTRACTUAL INTEREST, *WON* 30/11/06 5% Donation Made

 

Ikano Data Protection Act deception and non-complience: N1 claim issued 28/11/06. *SETTLED IN FULL* 12/12/06 5% donation made

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I have been following this thread for soooooo long now, I cant believe its still going on!!! I am only at the acknowledgement of service stage but this is really keeping me going and making me believe I can win (all my family keep on saying there's no way I can sue the bank and it must be some sort of con!).

 

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Some sort of con ???

 

definately operative words........but the real term is unlawful charges !! ha ha

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Dear Sir

 

We refer to the above matter and to your letter dated 24 September 2006.

 

Although our client maintains its position as stated in our letter of 19 September 2006, and is confident that it will be successful at a final hearing, its legal fees will almost certainly outweigh the value of the claim, and, as such, our client must take a commercial approach to such claims.

 

Accordingly, without any admission of liability, our client is prepared to settle this matter in full to prevent incurring any further legal fees. We enclose a cheque in the sum of £1456.80. As previously stated, acceptance by you of this goodwill payment will be in full and final settlement of your claim against our client and strictly on the basis that:-

  1. you agree not to disclose to any third party the fact of, or any details relating to, this payment.
  2. you write to the Court withdrawing your claim.

We would ask that you now write to the Court and discontinue proceedings in this matter. We have attached two copies of the Notice of Discontinuance, and we should be grateful if you would complete the copies, forwarding one to the Court and the duplicate to us.

 

We await receipt of the completed notice of Discontinuance.

 

Yours faithfully

 

Cobbetts LLP

 

Enc.

Enclosed was two copies of the NoD and a cheque!!

 

Bandit

08-05-06 - Data Protection Act sent to NW

08-05-06 - MP letter sent to Oliver Letwin (Cons, Dorset West)

25-05-06 - Statements and Data Protection Act received (14 days)

07-06-06 - Prelim letter sent to S.Higley claiming £1226.03

09-06-06 - LBA sent, due to negative response

29-06-06 - Claim served (Acknowledged 30-06-06)

27-07-06 - NW's Deadline - received 27-07-06

24-08-06 - AQ received and returned - Deadline 08-09-06 - Both returned

20-09-06 - 1st Offer - £850.00 with confidentiality REJECTED

05-10-06 - 2nd Offer - £1456.80 with confidentiality ACCEPTED

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Phew,

 

Looks like you are nearly there mate.

 

I too have been spending hours following your thread with great interest. Thank you very much for putting so much effort into it.

 

Ned

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04-09-2006 - NW respond asking for fee

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O.M.G.....GULP !!

I DONT BELIEVE I AM READING THIS!!!

 

 

Let me be the first to say congrats Mickie.....your journey has been an inspiration to us all

 

And thanks to Cobbetts.........now get the rest of them sorted please !!!

BY the way to all Rbs/Natwest claimants reading this....Mickies Court date was set for Dec 4th..............

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Great news!! Hope I don't have half the fuss with my claim...

 

Loz

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