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Actually looking at the original post of mine in this thread it appears that I didn't retain any of their original NTK docs etc as I thought they'd dropped the charge since I hadn't heard anything on this in over a year. Screenshot_20240428_102325_Brave.pdf -
By polishchap · Posted
Well back in 2019 I still had the 'fear' of these paper tigers. So I followed advice from another debt forum, requested CCA for all. A CCA was supplied for this account so I set up token payment and put it out of my mind. I thought that this was the correct course of action....and you know, you don't know until you know better. I've only, in the last couple of weeks found the info on this site's forums. I will be stopping paymenst and shall break-off all communication unless I receive a letter of claim. I assume that the missing payments information would come in to play then? They have my current address. -
I'll dig through their documentation see if I can find it, if needs be could I request a copy from the PPC since they seem to want to take it to court?
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I obtained the original from my company who is the hirer and then whatever came through from the SAR recently, but I've got all documentation and I'll put it in order and post it all up including my letters etc
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By lookinforinfo · Posted
I am sorry I cannot find it. I am looking for the Notice to keeper that was sent within a few days after the alleged breach to Arval , not the NTH sent to you later.
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