SIP Windscreen PCN - I parked on private land ADJACENT to Commercial st. Carpark, Manchester: Not on SIPS land.

[myrdaal]

1 The date of infringement? 9/10/23

2 Have you yet appealed to the parking company yet? [Y/N?] No

Has there been a response? (n/a yet)

Have you received a Notice To Keeper? (NTK) [must be received by you between 29-56 days] No

What date is on it? N/a

Did the NTK provide photographic evidence? N/a

3 Did the NTK mention Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA) [Y/N?] Unsure: dont think so

5 Who is the parking company? SIP parking Limited, Peter House, Oxford St, Manchester M15AN

6. Where exactly [Carpark name and town] did you park? Herein lies the issue: I parked on private land ADJACENT to Commercial st. Carpark, Manchester: Not on SIPS land.

My problem, in short is as described above.

The Commercial St carpark is a small roughly square piece of land, with an adjacent cobbled side/back street. 

The other side of the side street is an office building undergoing refurbishment, where I am working.

According to the buildings owners, the side/back street is owned by them i.e. NOT part of the SIPS car park.

I have been to this job several months ago, was informed by client to park in this area,  not blocking the entrance to the side street, as access to SIPS carpark was across the corner  there. 

At this time there was fencing around all of the car park, with SIPS signs on the inside of the fencing.

When I returned yesterday, SIPS had  removed some of the fencing, and were using the former access point as parking, had taken down some of the fencing on the side street to make new access , so that half of the side street was now unusable on that side .

They had taken down the signs attached to that fencing, and stuck them onto the clients building, 'claiming' parking rights over land not belonging to them.

In due course parking enforcer appears and issue PCN for several vehicles parked..not on their land.

 

PCN 9 10 23 edit.pdf

[FTMDave]

Obviously ignore their bilge and don't pay.

Wait for the NTK to arrive, which is highly likely to have a lot wrong legally with it.

Any photos you can get of where the car was really parked.

 

 

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Edited October 11, 2023 by Andyorch
Potentially libelous

[dx100uk]

no private parking company owns any land they manage parking on.......

[Nicky Boy]

Is this it?

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.4731147,-2.2503053,3a,90y,282.38h,81.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMIe7AitbSFwCeoR6SwqKwg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

2 hours ago, myrdaal said:

According to the buildings owners, the side/back street is owned by them i.e. NOT part of the SIPS car park.

Any chance of getting this in writing?

[myrdaal]

@Nicky Boy.

Yes, that is the park and road in question, and the refurb site entrance is where the chap in the fluorescent vest is entering, with the skip and parked vans responsible to the client @5 Jordan St.

The entrance to that park was mainly across the dropped kerb on the corner, and you can see the SIPS sign on the right there ( although most of the car park wasn't fenced at the time, you could just drive over the kerb onto the road: it is fenced now).

You can just about make out the wooden fence (side on) down the left side of the street, which is 2m high in places, and in others just has 2 planks across,  and the signs, also side on.  It appears the SIPS signs were up in the side street even back then, not moved later.

I doubt I can get anything in writing, although I shall attempt to.

.I am at the bottom of the foodchain and the client is a national land owning company with offices elsewhere:(

I realise SIPS only manage the land, not own it

[dx100uk]

await the notice to keeper 

then we will know exactly the address where they are claiming you were parked.

the windscreen ticket wont say that.