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Email and post hard copy will be okay a day or so

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Hear ?  Do you not intend attending ?

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You will be there to put forward your objections you won't hear from the court.They either get the set a side or not whilst your there.

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She ?  Rep ? If you mean defendant then as per the court hearing order "in person" they must attend.

It will serve you well to familiarise yourself with CPR 13 Setiing a Side varying a default judgment then you are familiar with the process and what is legally valid .

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Hi. 
just a quickie. 
as you know, my hearing is tomorrow.  


I am getting an onslaught of emails from her rep asking me to sign to have it overturned.  
they are trying to put her costs on me as I would not sign.  
I am stressed enough re the hearing but now they have sent me the breeders legal bill of £7k. 
that’s higher than the settlement!!

How has she mitigated her losses when paying the settlement was £2k cheaper than her bill to defend !!!! 

They received 3 out of 4 sets of docs yet the service docs never got there????  

Invalid service claim ????

How.  


evidence supplied showed the breeders email to her rep in June telling them the exact details she gave me for service.

 No one corrected those details??

They all knew I had the wrong address.  but it wasn’t wrong address.

 It went to their firm but to offices that do not deal with this kind of claim.  


will court put that bill on me? 
 

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Usual tactics to intimidate you and it sounds like its working. They are desperate and a last ditch attempt for you to consent to their application. As for 7K costs not a chance in small claims track...let the court decide at the hearing tomorrow.

Hold your nerve.

 

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under small claims even if they do win they be hard-pressed to get little over £70 cost...let alone £7k...:pound:

all done to frighten you .

oh and watchout for the next tactic, wanting to have a little chat before you both go into the hearing. smile walk away.

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Its only a set a side application hearing...costs are not on the agenda.

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oh yea forgot this is such a long story. 

what nasty people

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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You should be in and out within 20 mins and hopefully their application dismissed.

Dont forget to brush up on the link I posted above CPR 13.

 

https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part13

 

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Hearing outcome:   So they did not get the overturn on the basis of invalid service. the judge agreed they were served. So her costs stayed with her as a result.  

However, he said the allegations against her are serious and he wanted them heard in court fir judgement and today wasn’t the aim of that kind of hearing.

He overturned it on a discretionary judgement orr a hearing but not based on their application. hope that makes sense.

Judge did hint I cannot claim for a refund and replacement. 
Also I cant claim for cost of a KC pup when I purchased a non KC. Pup so that will need to amend.   

He said I’ll get a set of questions next. hope that makes sense.  
she sent a barrister who was livid by the end of the hearing so I see they as a gud sign.  

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So it is proceeding to allocation to which you will have to file a Directions Questionnaire N180....then you will be informed of the directions and hearing date.

You will have to draft a witness statement once the court has informed in which you will have to amend your pleadings slight in line with what you have stated above.

 

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I found more evidence of her concealing vet records within the puppy pack that confirmed his murmur was a minimum 4 yet she advertised a grade 3 two months after diagnosis too. 
the judge said if it goes as far as a hearing so she may settle.  Costly to defend now.  
should I send her solicitor notice I’m changing the amount incase it encourages that or wait for court docs? 
mo’s it my choice if I claim a refund or replacement so I can make it clear in WS. ? 

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Judge also told them he didn’t blame me for not returning the dog and my reasons for refusing were valid.  
Surely this will cost her more to defend than pay if I’m reducing the amount also ? 

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11 minutes ago, Lesley A said:

should I send her solicitor notice I’m changing the amount incase it encourages that or wait for court docs? 
mo’s it my choice if I claim a refund or replacement so I can make it clear in WS. ? 

No you can clarify that in your witness's statement and the court should adjust accordingly

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