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    • Hi there, Here is the sticky filled out as best as possible:  Which Court have you received the claim from? MCOL (County Court Business Centre, Northampton) Name of the Claimant: Uk Parking Control Limited Claimants Solicitors: DCB Legal Date of issue: March 2023 Following events: — DQ sent to me July 2023 — I filed a DQ in September 2023 — My claim was transferred to [my local court] September 2023 — Received Notice of Allocation to Small Claims Track (Hearing) including date for hearing in April 2024 — Witness statement due by May 14 — Claimant must pay court fees by May 17 — Court hearing on June 18   What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim? Please type out their particulars of claim (verbatim) less any identifiable data and round the amounts up/down. 1. The defendant is indebted to the claimant for a Parking Charge issued at [x] issued to vehicle [__] at Walcot Yard, Walcot Road, Bath, Ba1 5bg. 2. The PCN details are [___]. 3. The PCN(s) was issued on private land owned or managed by C. The vehicle was parked in breach of the Terms on Cs signs (the Contract), this incurring the PCNs. 4. The driver agreed to pay within 28 days but did not. D is liable as the driver or keeper. Despite requests, the PCN is outstanding. The Contract entitles C to damages.  AND THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS 1. £160 being the total of the PCN(s) and damages. 2. Interest at a rate of 8% per annum pursuant to s.69 of the County Courts Act 1984 from the date hereof at a daily rate of [x]p until judgement or sooner payment. 3. Costs and court fees   What is the value of the claim? ~260 Amount Claimed ~170 court fees ~35 legal rep fees ~50 Total Amount  ~260   Have you moved since the issuance of the PCN? No   Did you receive a letter of Claim With A reply Pack wanting I&E etc about 1mth before the claimform? No Here is the defence I filed:  DEFENCE 1. The parking charges referred to in this claim did not arise from any agreement of terms. The charge and the claim was an unexpected shock. The Defendant denies that the Claimant is entitled to relief in the sum claimed, or at all. It is denied that any conduct by the driver was a breach of any prominent term and it is denied that this Claimant (understood to have a bare licence as managers) has standing to sue or form contracts in their own name. Liability is denied, whether or not the Claimant is claiming 'keeper liability', which is unclear from the Particulars. The facts as known to the Defendant: 2. It is admitted that on the material date the Defendant was the registered keeper of the vehicle in question, but liability is denied. 3. While working at a nearby premises, [___] the Defendant was informed by the manager that they had an informal verbal agreement with the developer and owner operator of [___], which supposedly allowed them to park there. Based on this information, the Defendant parked their car there in good faith. The Defendant was not aware of any restrictions or limitations to this agreement, and therefore believed that they had the right to park there without penalty. 4. The Defendant avers that the Claimant failed to serve a Notice to Keeper compliant with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012. Consequently, the claimant cannot transfer liability for this charge to the Defendant as keeper of the vehicle. 5. The Particulars of Claim ('POC') appear to be in breach of CPR 16.4, 16PD3 and 16PD7, and fail to "state all facts necessary for the purpose of formulating a complete cause of action”. 6. The Defendant is unable, on the basis of the POC, to understand with certainty what case is being pursued. 7. The POC are entirely inadequate, in that they fail to particularise (a) the contractual term(s) relied upon; (b) the specifics of any alleged breach of contract; and (c) how the purported and unspecified 'damages' arose and the breakdown of the exaggerated quantum. 8. The claim has been issued via Money Claims Online and, as a result, is subject to a character limit for the Particulars of Claim section of the Claim Form. The fact that generic wording appears to have been applied has obstructed any semblance of clarity. The Defendant trusts that the court will agree that a claim pleaded in such generic terms lacks the required details and requires proper particularisation in a detailed document within 14 days, per 16PD.3 9. The guidance for completing Money Claims Online confirms this and clearly states: "If you do not have enough space to explain your claim online and you need to serve extra, more detailed particulars on the defendant, tick the box that appears after the statement 'you may also send detailed particulars direct to the defendant.'" 10. No further particulars have been filed and to the Defendant's knowledge, no application asking the court service for more time to serve and/or relief from sanctions has been filed either. 11. In view of it having been entirely within the Claimant's Solicitors' gift to properly plead the claim at the outset and the claim being for a sum, well within the small claims limit, such that the Defendant considers it disproportionate and at odds with the overriding objective (in the context of a failure by the Claimant to properly comply with rules and practice directions) for a Judge to throw the erring Claimant a lifeline by ordering further particulars (to which a further defence might be filed, followed by further referral to a Judge for directions and allocation) the court is respectfully invited to strike this claim out. 13. Whilst the new Code and Act is not retrospective, it was enacted due to the failure of the self-serving BPA & IPC Codes of Practice. The Minister is indisputably talking about existing (not future) cases when declaring that 'recovery' fees were 'designed to extort money'. A clear steer for the Courts which it is hoped overrides mistakes made in a few appeal cases that the parking industry desperately rely upon (Britannia v Semark-Jullien, One Parking Solution v Wilshaw, Vehicle Control Services v Ward and Vehicle Control Services v Percy). 14. Far from being persuasive, regrettably these one-sided appeals saw Circuit Judges led in one direction by Counsel for parking firms, and the litigant-in-person consumers lacked the wherewithal to appeal. In case this Claimant tries to rely upon these, the Defendant avers that errors were made in every case. Evidence was either overlooked (including signage discrepancies in Wilshaw, where the Judge was also oblivious to the BPA Code of Practice and the DVLA KADOE requirement for landowner authority) or the Judge inexplicably sought out and quoted from the wrong Code altogether (Percy). In Ward, a few seconds' emergency stop out of the control of the driver was unfairly aligned with the admitted parking contract in Beavis. Those learned Judges were not in possession of the same level of information as the DLUHC, whose incoming statutory Code of Practice now clarifies such matters as a definition of 'parking' as well as consideration and grace periods and minor matters such as 'keying errors' or 'fluttering tickets/permits' where a PCN should not have been issued at all, or should have been cancelled in the pre-action dispute phase. POFA and CRA breaches 15. Pursuant to Schedule 4 paragraph 4(5) of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 ('the POFA') the sum claimed exceeds the maximum potentially recoverable from a registered keeper, even in cases where a firm may have complied with other POFA requirements (adequate signage, Notice to Keeper wording/dates, and a properly communicated 'relevant contract/relevant obligation'). If seeking keeper/hirer liability - unclear from the POC - the Claimant is put to strict proof of full compliance and liability transferred. 16. Claiming costs on an indemnity basis is unfair, per the Unfair Contract Terms Guidance (CMA37, para 5.14.3), the Government guidance on the Consumer Rights Act 2015 ('CRA'). The CRA introduced new requirements for 'prominence' of both contract terms and 'consumer notices'. In a parking context, this includes signage and all notices, letters and other communications intended to be read by the consumer. 17. Section 71 creates a duty upon courts to consider the test of fairness, including (but not limited to) whether all terms/notices were unambiguously and conspicuously brought to the attention of a consumer. Signage must be prominent, plentiful, well placed and lit, and all terms unambiguous and obligations clear. The Defendant avers that the CRA has been breached due to unfair/unclear terms and notices, pursuant to s62 and paying due regard to examples 6, 10, 14 & 18 of Schedule 2 and the requirements for fair/open dealing and good faith. ParkingEye v Beavis is distinguished (lack of legitimate interest/prominence of terms) 18. ParkingEye overcame the possibility of their £85 charge being dismissed as punitive, however the Supreme Court clarified that ‘the penalty rule is plainly engaged’ in parking cases, which must each be determined on their own facts. That 'unique' case met a commercial justification test, and took into account the prominent yellow/black uncluttered signs with £85 in the largest/boldest text. Rather than causing other parking charges to be automatically justified, the Beavis case facts set a high bar that this Claimant has failed to reach. 19. Paraphrasing from the Supreme Court, deterrence is likely to be penal if there is a lack of a 'legitimate interest' in performance extending beyond the prospect of compensation flowing directly from the alleged breach. The intention cannot be to punish a driver, nor to present them with hidden terms, unexpected/cumbersome obligations nor 'concealed pitfalls or traps'. 20. In the present case, the Claimant has fallen foul of those tests. The Claimant’s small signs have vague/hidden terms and a mix of small font, and are considered incapable of binding a driver. Consequently, it remains the Defendant’s position that no contract to pay an onerous 'penalty' was seen or agreed. Binding Court of Appeal authorities which are on all fours with a case involving unclear terms and a lack of ‘adequate notice’ of a parking charge, include: (i) Spurling v Bradshaw [1956] 1 WLR 461 (‘red hand rule’) and (ii) Thornton v Shoe Lane Parking Ltd [1970] EWCA Civ2, both leading authorities confirming that a clause cannot be incorporated after a contract has been concluded; and (iii) Vine v London Borough of Waltham Forest: CA 5 Apr 2000, where Ms Vine won because it was held that she had not seen the terms by which she would later be bound, due to "the absence of any notice on the wall opposite the parking space'' (NB: when parking operator Claimants cite Vine, they often mislead courts by quoting out of context, Roch LJ's words about the Respondent’s losing case, and not from the ratio). 21. Fairness and clarity of terms and notices are paramount in the statutory Code and this is supported by the BPA & IPC Trade Bodies. In November 2020's Parking Review, solicitor Will Hurley, CEO of the IPC, observed: "Any regulation or instruction either has clarity or it doesn’t. If it’s clear to one person but not another, there is no clarity. The same is true for fairness. Something that is fair, by definition, has to be all-inclusive of all parties involved – it’s either fair or it isn’t. The introduction of a new ‘Code of Practice for Parking’ provides a wonderful opportunity to provide clarity and fairness for motorists and landowners alike." Lack of standing or landowner authority, and lack of ADR 22. DVLA data is only supplied to pursue parking charges if there is an agreement flowing from the landholder (ref: KADOE rules). It is not accepted that this Claimant (an agent of a principal) has authority from the landowner to issue charges in this place in their own name. The Claimant is put to strict proof that they have standing to make contracts with drivers and litigate in their own name. 23. The Claimant failed to offer a genuinely independent Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR). The Appeals Annex in the new incoming statutory Code shows that genuine disputes such as this would see the charge cancelled, had a fair ADR existed. Whether or not a person engaged with it, the Claimant's consumer blame culture and reliance upon the industry's own 'appeals service' should not sway the court into a belief that a fair appeal was ever on offer. The rival Trade Bodies' time-limited and opaque 'appeals' services fail to properly consider facts or rules of law and reject almost any dispute: e.g. the IAS upheld appeals in a woeful 4% of decided cases (IPC's 2020 Annual Report). Conclusion 24. The claim is entirely without merit. The Defendant believes that it is in the public interest that claims like this should be struck out because knowingly enhanced parking claims like this one cause consumer harm on a grand scale. 25. There is ample evidence to support the view - long held by many District Judges - that these are knowingly exaggerated claims. For HMCTS to only disallow those costs in the tiny percentage of cases that reach hearings whilst other claims to continue to flood the courts unabated, is to fail hundreds of thousands of consumers who suffer CCJs or pay inflated amounts, in fear of intimidating pre-action threats. 26. In the matter of costs, the Defendant asks: (a) at the very least, for standard witness costs for attendance at Court, pursuant to CPR 27.14, and (b) for a finding of unreasonable conduct by this Claimant, seeking costs pursuant to CPR 46.5. 27. Attention is drawn specifically to the (often-seen from this industry) distinct possibility of an unreasonably late Notice of Discontinuance. Whilst CPR r.38.6 states that the Claimant is liable for the Defendant's costs after discontinuance (r.38.6(1)) this does not normally apply to claims allocated to the small claims track (r.38.6(3)). However, the White Book states (annotation 38.6.1): "Note that the normal rule as to costs does not apply if a claimant in a case allocated to the small claims track serves a notice of discontinuance although it might be contended that costs should be awarded if a party has behaved unreasonably (r.27.14(2)(dg))." Statement of Truth I believe that the facts stated in this defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.
    • Hi, I was caught by the security guards today for shoplifting in John Lewis. I think total amount is about £500. They said they saw me on CCTV last week, I was freaked out so I admitted it. I know it’s awful… I cried as I was too scared and begged them pls don’t call the police. They took pics of me and wrote down my details from banking app as I didn’t have any id with me. I told them my difficulties that I was scammed £35k recently and I lost my job so I stole those things and sell them. I apologised and they said they won’t call the police but I’m banned and will receive letters from RLP for fines which including this time and the last time(I didn’t give back the goods I took last time). I know it’s very very bad, I feel shameful and so depressed so hopeless about everything happened. I wonder since it’s a lot of money, will they sue me, take me to the court, or will they change their mind to call the police when they check the cctv footage to check how much I owe them? I said sorry I really couldn’t afford the fine at this situation, they said it’s their job they can’t do anything. Later when I was out of the mall, the security guard said, I can call RLP to negotiate about the fee. Also I’m probably moving to another city in 2 months, so if they want to take me to court but I didn’t receive any letters what should I do… and the security guy told me it’s worse as I traveled to this city and stealing stuff. I’m home now but feeling awful, wish people could give me some advice, thank you very much.
    • Before you do any of the above – Stop! You need to spend a few days reading up on the stories on this sub- forum so that you understand the principles and you understand how to go about making your claim. We will help you – and you have a better than 95% chance of getting your money back – but you need to be in control of what you are doing. We will help you – but this is a self-help forum and you need to have done the reading so that you are confident of each step and you know your way forward. Please don't do anything at all – in particular don't send a letter of claim – until you have done all the reading and I would suggest that probably you will start drafting your letter of claim over the weekend. Also, you haven't told us anything about what has happened. We don't know dates, items dispatched, value, whether they were properly declared, whether you bought so-called insurance, you have been declined reimbursement but we don't know why. If you want us to help you then you will have to give us this basic information. Also the fact that you are an eBay trader makes this slightly more complicated although it doesn't at all affect your chances of success.  Read the other threads on this sub- forum – and especially the pinned threads at the top in order to understand the principles. You also quickly understand the kind of help that we will give you and you will understand some of the draft documents which have been used in other successful claims.
    • Thanks, I'm finishing up the skeleton and hope to have it done today. Will look at statement of case too and get that done over the next few days.
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PRA/Brodies Ordinary Cause Court claim - Old Barclaycard Debt *** Claim Dismissed***


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Hi,

I have read over a lot the the threads here but I’m little confused and still need some advice thanks in advance I am based on Scotland 

I have a lot of credit card debts and defaulted on them most from covid time 

I was given a writ  by sheriff officers and is from pra group ( for Barclays credit card ) and Is £10,000  my biggest worry is can they do anything with regards to my equity in my property 

I do have a few other debts should I be making an arrangement with them most of them are with link financial now

I need to reply to the writ but due to covid I can’t afford to offer to pay much In a monthly term 

should i be looking to make a settlement offer if can get the support to make that payment and what should it be as would need to be made via there solicitor now 

My worry is if they bankrupt me so they can get to the equity in the property 

sorry if I’m posting this in the wrong place just very stressed as need to reply to this ASAP as near my deadline 

thanks 

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they've got to produce enforceable paperwork first.... fat chance on an old barclaycard debt!!!:pound:

 

please complete this:

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to PRA Ordinary Cause Court claim - Old Barclaycard Debt

Hi,

 

first thank you so much for your fast reply I really appreciate that

 

I did read this and my answers are pretty much the exact same to be honest as the one they had been filled out 

 

so should I fill this in and send it like you said sorry I’m just not very technical  

 

Is there any way they can come after my property ? 
 

So I sent this in the reply to writ as I’m defending it ? 
 

i did break a payment arrangement with Barclays long time ago  

 

i did break a payment arrangement with Barclays long time ago but forget mentioning that I’m guessing 

 

what should I do about my other debts with link financial ? 

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please forget link like pra they are a scamming DCA , they are not bailiffs 

 

can you please fillout that questionnaire please 

and post the Q&A back to this thread

then we will get you moving.

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Thanks I’m going to

sound stupid I’m sorry but I don’t want to put my public information here in the form ir just leave my personal information out 

 

also here ok the writ it says this I will attach image 

 

sorry if I sound stupid lol just stressed 

 

I am very grateful for the help and I will definitely support the page once I’m finished for sure  

 

Sorry doesn’t let me attach I’mage it says 

 

condescendence 

 

on October 2018 Barclays Bank entered into a credit arrangement with the defender. A copy of the agreement will be produced.the agreement is regulated by the consumer credit act 1974 

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copy and paste the questions here 

answer each one at the end

copy and paste the nest question do the same.

 

no we dont need your pers details at all.

 

100's have done this here already

 

we need the exact info to properly help you.

 

easy win for you stop panicking.

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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here is someone a few steps ahead of you

have a read you might fall in what to get up here.

 

PRA Ordinary Cause Court Claim Hamilton court - old Barclaycard debt - Scotland Financial Legal Issues - Consumer Action Group

 

3 hours ago, Thanks121 said:

so should I fill this in and send it like you said sorry I’m just not very technical  - on here yes

 

Is there any way they can come after my property ? - NO!!
 

So I sent this in the reply to writ as I’m defending it ? - NO!!
 

i did break a payment arrangement with Barclays long time ago  - so what!!

 

i did break a payment arrangement with Barclays long time ago but forget mentioning that I’m guessing - so what

 

what should I do about my other debts with link financial ? forget them not important at present.

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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use this sticky please 

its alot more detailed for us 

just copy/paste q&A back here and answer the questions

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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38 minutes ago, Chris1301 said:

Hi, I’m the same as you stressed. The help on here has been fantastic though.

Hope all goes well.


yes as soon as home I’m going to get it all done and send did you send it ? Did you speak to brodies ? 
 

sorry for the questions but since I looked here and reply’s from dx100uk I felt a little better but I also received one of my other ones today so really was a bad day !!!

 

my first one is pretty much the same as yours except it’s the Paisley sheriff court 

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you dont speak to anyone...

 

can you please fill out the above sticky as a matter of urgency if you want our help.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi dx100uk sorry for delay to be honest just struggling a little but I have started and will send the information very soon 

 

I just can’t remember the exact date account was opened so looking for the information 

 

once again thanks for your help 

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On 20/02/2023 at 21:45, Thanks121 said:

condescendence 

 

on October 2018 Barclays Bank entered into a credit arrangement with the defender. A copy of the agreement will be produced.the agreement is regulated by the consumer credit act 1974 

you posted it earlier!!

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Once again thanks for your help 

 

here is all the information I hope I have done it right 

 

name the issuing court: paisley sheriff Court  

 

Who are the pursuers: PRA Group (uk) Ltd 

 

Who Are the Solicitors [listed at the bottom of the writ] :Brodies LLP

 

what date was this served on you and by what method [hand/post] and by whom:-  Hand by sheriff officers on 16th February 

 

what date is within the COURT STAMP: 16th  February 2023

 

What is the writ for – [sentence under defender] 

To grant decree against the defender for payment to the pursuer of the sum of £9320

 

AND under condescendence:

 

1.The parties are designed in the instance.

 

2.The pursuer has no reason to believe that any agreement exists propagating jurisdiction over the subject matter of this cause to any other court.

 

3.the pursuer has no reason to believe that any proceeding may be pending before any other court involving the same cause of action between the parties as those named herein.

 

4.The raising of the action and is domiciled there.

 

5. The nature and circumstances of the said residence indicate the the defender has a substantial connection with Scotland. This court accordingly has jurisdiction 

 

6., on or about 3 October Barclays Bank UK plc entered into a credit agreement ( hereinafter referred to as the agreement ) with the defender. A copy of the agreement will be produced the agreement is regulated by the consumer credit act 1974 ( the 1974 act )  

 

7.The Defender failed to maintain payment of the instalments due in terms of the Agreement. Barclays Bank UK plc served a default notice in the defender. The Defender failed to make  payment in satisfaction of the Default Notice Barclays Bank UK plc terminated the agreement. Following the termination of the agreement the balance due thereunder is £9,320 which is the sum sued for.

 

8.On or around 18 January 2022, Barclays Bank PLC rights in terms of the agreement  have been assigned to the Pursuer . Notice of the assignation has intimated to the Defender.

 

9.The Defender has been called upon to make payment of the Sum sued for but has refused or at least delayed to do so. This action is accordingly necessary 

 

AND under pleas in law 

The Defender being due resting and owing to this Pursuer in the sum sued for, decree should be granted as craved.

 

What Is the claim for  ..[Overdraft, credit card, loan account, HP Agreement, Catalogue or mobile phone debt etc] : Credit Card
 

from your knowledge: answer the following: 

 

Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes

 

When did you enter into the original agreement before or after 2007 [give the date]? 2018

 

Were you aware the account had been sold/assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Yes

 

Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? yes

 

Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Default sums” – at least once a year ? Yes

 

When was your last payment:- September 2021

 

Why did you cease payments:- Covid just really took Over everything and financial and mentally was very hard time 

 

Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? no

 

Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan?  Yes 

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you've missed out:

Date of Agreement: – October 2018
Reference Number: – is this the original creditors account number? (y/n)

how many digits does it have?
Unpaid balance: - 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Sorry my mistake 

 

you've missed out:

Date of Agreement: – October 2018 yes I believe so is when I got the Barclay card  I did try to check it but I couldn’t find it 


Reference Number: – is this the original creditors 

 

reference number  I’m sorry I didn’t include one where would that be 

 

account number? (y/n)  no 

 

how many digits does it have? I can’t get into account but will look for card asap I’m 99% sure it was 16 digits 


Unpaid balance: -  won’t let me into check as account is closed do you know how I can check it if needed 

 

Once again thanks 

 

Card was definitely 16 digits 

 

but no account number on it not sure how I will get that 

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woe SLOW DOWN READ CAREFULLY WHAT IS BEING ASKED...

on the writ there will be a ref number - ie the debt they are chasing your for

that should make ref to the original credit card number which will be 16 digits long - have they in their writ quoted that number yes or no?

 

you have until the 8th march to file your intention to defend

that gives you a further 14 days to file your defence

though its better to do both at the same time.

 

so slow down...breathe.

YOU do NOT have to go 'elsewhere' to find information the pursuer has NOT included in their writ/citation/court forms... GEDDIT? 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Thanks 

 

I checked my credit file the amount they are asking for is the amount that was on my Barclays report and and it does say they sold the debt onto them Feb 2022 pra group 

 

there is no Reference  number on any of the paper work that anything similar to my card number 

 

I’m glad you think I can defend what is the normal success rate with defending this way 

 

 

once again thanks for your help 

 

I’m sorry for sounding so stupid but could you please tell me what I should do now just I’m not very technical at all 

 

what do I exactly need to send and where do I need to send it 

 

thanks again 

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 its very important YOU understand the process as it's YOU infront of the sheriff when the time comes.

 

you need to file intimation of defending by day 21

you need to file your defence within a further 14 days from that in THE CORRECT FORMAT.

its better to do both at the same time within 21 days from 16th feb

 

these goto the COURT and brodies.

 

 

read everything there^^

there is also example of defences

your needs to include that the pursuer has not mentioned any account number in the appropriate section of our generic defence.

 

have a go and post up your ideas.

 

there are also numerous ordinary clause threads already here

use our enhanced google search box  for ordinary cause.

 

 

 

 

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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just get the CCA request printed and sent pra

you need to get a £1PO.

get that done tomorrow

too late today.

 

then move on with the court stuff

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Ok thanks but should I send it also to their solicitor so if I don’t get reply can say I requested it just I don’t have long left 

 

Can you please send me the link again to the cca now so I can fill it in and will print it ready to send recorded delivery ? 

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please read what has already been posted before.

 

a CCA request<<clickme goes to the debt OWNER, the Pursuer, PRA group.

you do not have to await ANY reply to the above before filing your defence.

there are far MORE documents they MUST supply to even make this debt enforceable in a scottish court else it will instantly get thrown out.

 

you've not read that link yet

as you've again asked silly questions that the how to sticky answers.

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Sending the cca form that’s very straight forward thank  you 

 

but it’s the court ones I’m struggling with to prepare but I will try again to see if I can figure it out 

 

I’m sorry if you think I’m little slow here it’s not on purpose 

 

Please bear with me 

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