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    • Hi Just to be clear a Notice to Quit is only the very start of the Housing Association going down the Eviction route there is a long process to go. Also to be clear if you leave at the Notice to Quit date only and go to the Council claiming you are Homeless they will more than likely class you as Intentionally Homeless therefore you have no right to be given temporary housing by the Council. The only way that works is when the Court has Granted a Possession Order then you can approach the Council as Homeless with the Court Order. As for the Housing Association issuing the Notice to Quit because there investigation has proved it's not your main residence but you have witness statement to prove otherwise. From now on with the Housing Association you need to keep a very good paper trail and ensure to get free proof of posting from the post office with anything you send to them. You now need to make a Formal Complaint to the Housing Association and please amend the following to suit your needs:   Dear Sir/Madam FORMAL COMPLAINT Reference: Notice to Quit Letter Dated XX/XX/2024, Hand Delivered on XX/XX/2024 I note in your letter that you stated that the Housing Association has carried out an investigation into myself and came to the conclusion that I am not using this property as my main residence and have evidence of this and have therefore issued a 'Notice to Quit' by XX/XX/2024. I find the above actions absolutely disgraceful action by the Housing Association. 1. Why have I never been informed nor asked about this matter by my Housing Officer. 2. Why have I never been given the opportunity to defend myself before the Housing Association out of the blue Hand Delivered a Notice to Quit Letter. 3. I have evidence and witnesses/statements that prove this is my Main Residence and more than willing provide this to both the Housing Association and the Court. I now require the following: 1. Copy of your Complaints Policy (not the leaflet) 2. Copy of your Customer Care Charter (not the leaflet) 3. Copies of your Investigation into this not being my main residence.    As well as the above you need to send the Housing Association urgently a Subject Access Request (SAR) requesting 'ALL DATA' that simple phrase covers whatever format they hold that in whether it be letters, email, recorded calls etc. The Housing Association then has 30 calendar days to respond but that time limit only starts once they acknowledge your SAR Request. If they fail to respond within that time limit its then off with a complaint to the Information Commissioners Office (ICO).     
    • Hi Sorry for the delay in getting back to you The email excuse and I do say excuse to add to your account and if court decide LL can't recoup costs will be removed is a joke. So I would Ask them: Ask them to provide you with the exact terms within your Tenancy Agreement that allows them to add these Court Fees to your Account before it has been decided in Court by a Judge. Until the above is answered you require these Court Fees to be removed from your Account (Note: I will all be down to your Tenancy Agreement so have a good look through it to see what if any fees they can add to your account in these circumstances)
    • Thank you for your responses. As requested, some more detail. Please forgive, I'm writing this on my phone which always makes for less than perfect grammar. My Dad tries but English not his 1st language, i'm born and bred in England, a qualified accountant and i often help him with his admin. On this occasion I helped my dad put in his renewal driving licence application around 6 weeks before expiry and with it the disclosure of his sleep apnoea. Once the licence expired I told him to get in touch with his GP, because the DVLA were offering only radio silence at that time (excuses of backlogs When I called to chase up). The GP charged £30 for an opinion letter on his ability to drive based on his medical history- at the time I didn't take a copy of the letter, but I am hoping this will be key evidence that we can rely on as to why s88 applies because in the GP opinion they saw no reason he couldn't drive i need to see the letter again as im going only on memory- we forwarded the letter in a chase up / complaint to the DVLA.  In December, everything went quiet RE the sleep apnoea (i presume his GP had given assurance) but the DVLA noticed there had been a 2nd medical issue in the past, when my father suffered a one off mini stroke 3 years prior. That condition had long been resolved via an operation (on his brain of all places, it was a scary time, but he came through unscathed) and he's never had an issue since. We were able to respond to that query very promptly (within the 14 days) and the next communication was the licence being granted 2 months later. DVLA have been very slow in responding every step of the way.  I realise by not disclosing the mini stroke at the time, and again on renewal (had I known I'd have encouraged it) he was potentially committing an offence, however that is not relevant to the current charge being levied, which is that he was unable to rely on s88 because of a current medical issue (not one that had been resolved). I could be wrong, I'm not a legal expert! The letter is a summons I believe because its a speeding offence (59 in a temp roadworks 50 limit on the A1, ironically whist driving up to visit me). We pleaded guilty to the speeding but not guilty to the s87.  DVLA always confirmed to me on the phone that the licence had not been revoked and that he "May" be able to continue to drive. They also confirmed in writing, but the letter explains the DVLA offer no opinion on the matter and that its up to the driver to seek legal advice. I'll take the advice to contact DVLA medical group. I'm going to contact the GP to make sure they received the SAR request for data, and make it clear we need to see a copy of the opinion letter. In terms of whether to continue to fight this, or to continue with the defence, do we have any idea of the potential consequences of either option? Thanks all
    • stopping payments until a DN arrives does not equal automatic sale to a DCA...if you resume payments after the DN.  
    • Sleep apnoea: used to require the condition  to be “completely” controlled Sometime before June 2013 DVLA changed it to "adequately" controlled. I have to disagree with MitM regarding the effect of informing DVLA and S.88 A diagnosis of sleep apnoea doesn't mean a licence wont be granted, and, indeed, here it was. If the father sought medical advice (did he?) : this is precisely where S.88 applies https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/64edcf3a13ae1500116e2f5d/inf1886-can-i-drive-while-my-application-is-with-dvla.pdf p.4 for “new medical condition” It is shakier ground if the opinion of a healthcare professional wasn’t sought. in that case it is on the driver to state they believed they met the medical standard to drive. However, the fact the licence was then later granted can be used to be persuasive that the driver’s belief they met the standard was correct. What was the other condition? And, just to confirm, at no point did DVLA say the licence was revoked / application refused? I’d be asking DVLA Drivers’ Medical Group why they believe S.88 doesn’t apply. S.88 only applies for the UK, incidentally. If your licence has expired and you meet the conditions for S.88 you can drive in the U.K., but not outside the U.K. 
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It is thorough and detailed but do you think it will fit into the word limit?

 

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It's difficult to answer how detailed your timeline should be. I don't think you need to cross every T or dot every I. Just a reference to the most important points – when you sent the item, when things started to go wrong, when you make your first complaint, when you sent your letter of claim. That's probably about it.

You're talking about postage costs delivering your claim form. Isn't this all done online? Are we talking about the same thing?

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Hi I got my SAR back from Evri. Reading through it all, I have found out what happened to my parcel. There was an internal email, that reads. the case that I packed my goods in was empty. So contents obviously stole. This is not information they were going to supply to me. How best should I use this information in my court claim?

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When you say that this is not information that they were going to supply you, are you saying that this was written in the file? Or is this something which you have surmised?

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Would you mind quoting here the words which were used and which apparently indicate that they weren't going to tell you about the theft

In fact maybe you could post up the page of the particular document in PDF format

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Sorry, I think I must have written it poorly. They haven't written they are not going to inform me of the theft. It just states that my package was empty. During this whole process, they have never given me  this information. They only stated that my package had suffered damage.

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Please can you post up a copy of your final particulars of claim in PDF format.

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You say they have been in touch but you haven't given this any information about it.

How can we advise you if you don't tell us what has happened

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Response received on: 12 April 2023 at 12:33PM

1. Defendant’s details Name Evri Limited Address EVRI CAPITOL HOUSE, 1, CAPITOL CLOSE LEEDS LS27 0WH Email evri.claims@EVRi-europe.co.uk

2. Defendant’s response to the claim Defendant’s response I dispute all the claim Why they dispute the claim 2.1. 1. If any part of the Particulars of Claim are not expressly admitted or denied below, such parts are denied by the Defendant entirely.

2.2. 2. The Defendant serves this Defence subject to the following objection to the manner in which this claim is brought. The Particulars of Claim fail to provide details about any contractual relationship which is alleged to exist between the Claimant and the Defendant.

2.3. Background

2.4. 3. The Defendant is and was at all material times a company limited by shares in the business of providing delivery services on a business to business, business to consumer and consumer to consumer basis.

2.5. 4. In addition to providing delivery service to its own customers, the Defendant also works as a subcontractor to provide delivery services to customers of PACKLINK Shipping S.L (“Packlink”) who are a company registered in, Spain with the number CIF xxxxxxxx whose registered address Claim number: xxxxxxxx

For further details of the courts www.gov.uk/find-court-tribunal © Crown copyright Page 2 of 6 is Calle Amaltea, 9 28045 Madrid pursuant to a pre-existing commercial agreement to carry out delivery services.

2.6. 5. Packlink provides delivery services to users of the online auction site /retail site ‘eBay.co.uk’. eBay.co.uk users can opt to use the Defendant’s delivery services via Packlink. This means that the Defendant does not have any contractual relationship with Packlink ‘s customers. They, as is the case with the Claimant, contract solely with Packlink.

2.7. 6. As there is no contract between the Claimant and the Defendant, the Defendant only has limited tracking information about the parcel.

2.8. 7. The tracking information shows that on or around 31 January 2023 after the parcel was collected from the Claimant by a self-employed courier on behalf of the Defendant.

2.9. 8. The last tracking point for the Parcel was on 6th February 2023. The Parcel could not delivered as it was damaged in transit.

2.10. The Claim Value

2.11. 9. The Claimant seeks to recover £279.48.

2.12. 10. The Claimant is put to strict proof as to the value of the claim.

2.13. The Defence

2.14. 11. The Defendant denies that it is liable to pay the Claimant the damages claimed for breach of contract and/or negligence.

2.15. 12. This Defence is a response to the Particulars of Claim which are set out in the ’Reasons for claim’ on page 2 of the claim form.

2.16. Claim Form – Particulars of Claim

2.17. 13. The first to sixth sentences of the Particulars of Claim is neither admitted nor denied and the Claimant is put to strict proof.

2.18. 14. The seventh to fourteenth sentences of the Particulars of Claim is neither admitted nor denied and the Claimant is put to strict proof.

2.19. No contractual relationship

2.20. 15. There is no contract between the Claimant and the Defendant.

2.21. 16. The Claimant entered into a contract with Packlink.

2.22. 17. This was made very clear during the order process.

2.23. 20. The Claimant should desist with this claim and contact Packlink.

2.24. Claim for compensation

2.25. 18. The Claimant claims £279.48. 2.26. 19. As explained above, it is denied that the Defendant owes the Claimant £279.48. Claim number: xxxxxxxxx

For further details of the courts www.gov.uk/find-court-tribunal © Crown copyright Page 3 of 6 3.

Mediation Willing to try mediation Yes

4. Statement of truth I believe the facts stated in this response are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Company: Name: Judy Cobbett Role: Legal Department 12 April 2023

What happens next

Settle the claim

Unless you’ve been asked not to, you can still contact defendant directly. If you can reach an agreement you may not have to go to a hearing.

Mediation If the defendant has asked for mediation then the claimant will be asked if they want to mediate.

If the defendant hasn’t asked for mediation then the case will be reviewed by a judge and might go to a hearing.

The claimant and defendant will be contacted if a hearing date is scheduled and it will be explained what they need to do to prepare.

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I asked you in an earlier post if you could put up your final particulars of claim in PDF format.

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Also, please can you give us an actual copy of their defence rather than some Microsoft word version. In PDF format please

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Still waiting for these documents please

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The next step is that there will be a court date. Please let us know .

Also, please sort things out and post the documents we have requested

 

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Just a quick update. Bundle for court has been sent to court and Evri. I am now just awaiting a court hearing date.

i will keep informed of how it progresses.

 

Thank you again for your help and support from this group.

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Evri, have now sent an email offering the full cost of the goods stolen.

I declined this offer. stating I need court costs, my costs, torts payment, Bundle preparation.

Lets see what they say

 

Regards  Colin

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Good for you for standing your ground.

I'm afraid any costs relating to the preparation of a bundle would probably be unrecoverable but certainly you are right to stand your ground for the rest

Please can you post up the email that they sent you

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Dear xxxxx

 

By way of brief introduction, I am a member of Evri Legal Department and I have taken over conduct of the attached claim you made against Evri.

 

I write with a view to settle the matter.

 

Evri’s position is that when you sent the parcel you entered in to a contract with Packlink and not Evri. Therefore, Evri are not liable for your parcel and also have limited (tracking) information about the parcel.

 

Notwithstanding the above, Evri are taking your word in good faith and , as a gesture of goodwill Evri are willing to offer you the value of your parcel which you told Packlink was £120.00 and £5.20 postage. Total Offer is £125.20 in full and final settlement of your claim.

 

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if you read upload it tells you how to make multipage pdfs.

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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