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    • Hi Stuckfast and welcome to CAG   Great job starting to self-manage your debts and listing them out here, you seem proactive and that's a great trait to have when it comes to debts.   You don't mention your partner's income so maybe there is some flexibility there to maintain pro rata payments?   Personally, looking at your list vs income I would consider dropping all of them to £1 per month as per the pro rata process and stating you are having further financial difficulties. The reason I would do this is you are unlikely to clear any of them as it stands and there's little difference in £5-£1 from the creditors point of view, whereas due to the amount of accounts, that's alot of ££'s for you when multiplied. This can be saved initially with a view to perhaps making full and final settlements on the none defaulted smaller accounts in the future but at the very least give you some breathing room for now.   Then, at some point after the companies all default you, they are likely to sell the debt on, at which point you can challenge the DCA's to prove the accounts are enforceable - they are usually not due to how the Original Creditors (OC's) and Debt Collector Agencies (DCA's) carry out this process.   Have a read through the debt forum for similar situations as yourself you'll soon pick up the idea.   You are not alone and there's nothing to be ashamed of - you've done the right thing in reaching out here on CAG, we will help you   Lastly, I disagree with Yorky and do not think you should seek advice from any company that is funded by the financial institutions, advice here is free and if you're willing to learn you can absolutely do all of this yourself.   Don't use the phone - letter's only. Don't complete any income and expenditure forms You've already proven you are willing to take control, continue!   BT  
    • It isnt a great thing to have to worry about all these things. I am sure someone on this site will offer some great advice.   Priority debts need to be sorted first; Rent/Mortgage, Council Tax, Utility   - Dont quote me as I do not know the legal points around this; but Overdrafts, catalouge, card debts are not priority. I would sit down and work out exactly what your priority debts and living costs are, deduct from your income. Look at all your cards, loans overdrafts etc, list them all, starting from the highest interest charging ones, think what and which ones to work out a realistic monthly payment, dont overpay what you cant afford.  I would consider not using the cards etc, as you will be adding to your debt and problems. I would contact someone Like Stepchange or Citizens advice, they will offer you some very good advice and ways of contacting your companies you have debt with. Dont be afraid of your debt companies, write to the fully explaining situation and what you can realistically offer, do not be preasurised into paying more than you can I personally prefer contact by post or e mail rather than telephone. Ive no idea what Factor, Monzo is, but may well fall in line with what Ive said.   Keep a note in a diary of every call you made or who contacted you, ask for names, keep and copy all letters to and from as this may be helpfull further down the line for record keeping.   Do not ignore contact as this just adds more stress for you and the problem wont go away.   Make sure you make your affordable monthly payments, every month, even if they say we wont accept it, its to low.    As you have a lot of stress going on, I would certainly contact someone like Stepchange or Citizens advice,    Good luck
    • Hy. Caring for family adult learning disability; full time, currently unpaid from work, unpaid carer - receive weekly carers allowance This is what I have searched on so far; - can only receive from employment £132 a week, after Tax, NI, deductions in all about £201.00 a week, but this is taxable and needs to be entered on tax submission, but if less than personal allowance then no tax may be paid? - I believe NI is paid as long as you get the carers allowance, although gap between break in employment and start of carers allowance may not be? -Should employment end due to company not happy in change of hrs and I have to leave, then only the carers allowance would for be the income, If UC is applied for would this allowance be deducted from what UC give or the person I cared for be affected - Savings may affect if you get UC or not - Certainly cant be available for looking for work as full time carer   anyone have any points, help or advice on this issue please
    • hy, In a nutshell; - current contract  work part time Mon to Fri 24 hrs - Unpaid year off break to become family member full time carer - Need to either go back to work at end of next month, start of July or leave - Application for Transfer was turned down   - Letter to go in this week with a application form to request change of contract, hrs, days so that I can look after family member - change requested will be work mon, tues, wed but not more than 13.5hrs or 14, then breaks deducted to stay within legal earnings limit as carers allowance is recieved - it is not possible to work thur, fri sat, sun due to care needs and travelling for adult disabled family member   ok; Ive done a bit of digging, I can send application  for reduction of the hrs and contract which i think the govt said I can legally do. Doesnt mean the company has to be bound legally by it. It may be that it isnt suitible and there for ask me to resign. Or they may agree! Or terminate my employment. But as I am a full time family carer for a family member within the same household, I should have a good case to argue.    Does anyone have any further knowledge or experince of this to advice me, what legal or other rights, but if I quit or asked to quit, would claiming benefits as such be suspended for quiting a job, thanks    
    • I’m looking for some guidance please. I’ve been reading up but am stuck on what I should do and going round in circles now.   Trying to manage my own DMP and making a mess of it I think.   My income is £1015 per month Essential outgoings: factor fee £93 pet insurance £81 (giant breed so quite costly) TV licence £13.37 Groceries for 3 adults and giant breed dog £309 Council Tax £111 Internet £36 Electric £59 No water/gas/car Public transport £30 Gifts £15 Mobiles £6 Debt to family £42 Saving £0 Leftover £220 (for creditors) Actual Original Total Due to Creditors £600 (pro rata started) So I’ve started negotiating pro rata payments while still trying to keep credit cards going for future emergencies (they are maxed now but if I can pay them down it releases credit for me to have as a back Up)   It’s all getting worse, I’m struggling, I have depression, my wife has depression and is unwell. Interest on 3 cards is over £100 so not really paying anything off.   I’ve negotiated pro rata on some and I think I’ve gone in too high because I’m really struggling with it, I forgot that when they ask for income expenses they don’t take into account that the factor bill is 3 monthly and therefore I need £279 by May 31st and not £93 as budgeted so already in trouble for month 2. Partner debts: Starling bank overdraft: £400, 2019. Pro rata £14 arrangement to pay, no default.   Tesco Credit Card: £100  started 1/12/2019; defaulted 7/10/20 £5 mth   Virgin Credit Card: £2700 started 14/5/18; defaulted 30/3/21 £5 mth   Marks and Spencer Credit Card: £850 started 18/10/19; defaulted 13/1/21 £5 mth   Nationwide Credit Card: £1500 started 30/4/19; defaulted 28/12/20 £5 mth   Barclaycard CC: £1400 (PRA group purchased it) started 25/8/18; defaulted 16/7/20 £5 mth.    Aqua Credit Card: £3900 (now with Cabot Financial) started 3/12/18;  defaulted 12/11/20 £5mth   Aqua Loan: £1700 (now with Link Financial) started 28/9/19; defaulted 2/2/2021 £5 mth   My Debts:   Monzo Loan:  £1900 October 2021 – permanent pro rata £39 agreed, not defaulted    Likely Loans: £1500 December 2021 – temp £14 pro rata, not defaulted    Monzo overdraft: varies up to £750  - temp £10 pro rata   Monzo Flex: £900 December 2021 – temp £11 pro rata   Fluid Credit Card: £1500 July 2021 (on a holiday until August) £0    Capital One Credit Card: £700 £40 mth (up to date)   Amazon Credit card: £2450 November 2021 £75 mth (up to date)   Next: £56 December 2021,  £5 mth (up to date)   My dilemma is I can’t pay the factor bill and have maxed my cards.   I wonder about going on a payment holiday with Amazon and Capital One and then negotiate pro rata using a part of the £220 left for creditors in time, so keeping the pro rata proportional.   In August my Fluid holiday ends and they want £80.   I’m not getting hassled by any creditors and prefer an option that keeps it that way but last night seriously thought should I stop paying all of some of them.   Thanks  Stuckfast    
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MoneyShop - BW Legal
PO Box 8850
Nottingham
NG8 9BW
08003161414
09/08/2010 DOC:Letter from Money Shop 090810
25/08/2010 DOC:Letter from Money Shop 250810
27/08/2010 DOC:Letter from Money Shop 270810
25/10/2010 DOC:Letter from Money Shop 251010
03/12/2010 DOC:Letter from Money Shop 031210    Loan cleared
17/12/2010 DOC:Credit Agreement 171210        New credit agreement
17/12/2010 DOC:Loan receipt 171210        New loan £200
24/01/2011 DOC:Letter from Money Shop 240111    Unpaid loan now £275
01/02/2011 repay £10 DOC:Debt repayment receipt 010211    Repaid £10 outstanding £265
17/02/2011 DOC:Letter from Money Shop 170211    Final notice outstanding £235
17/08/2011 DOC:Letter from Money Shop 170811    Unpaid letter outstanding £125
24/01/2012 repay    £25            
24/01/2012 repay    £250            Last payment on this debt which was paid up


  I can only assume more money was advance to him, but have no recollection
13/03/2012 Letter from Money Shop DOC:Letter from Money Shop 13031    Unpaid letter outstanding £275
16/03/2012 Letter to Money Shop 160312         outlining money problems
19/03/2012 DOC:Letter from Money Shop 190312    Default warning outstanding £275
16/04/2012 Notice of Default sums DOC:Letter from Money Shop 160412    Default added £25 outstanding £300
23/04/2012 DOC:Letter from Money Shop 230412    Default warning outstanding £302.42
27/04/2012 Letter to Money Shop 270412 (recorded)    My full financial breakdown
02/05/2012 DOC:Letter from Money Shop 020512-1    Debt £352.42
02/05/2012 DOC:Letter from Money Shop 020512-2    Debt £352.42
05/10/2012 DOC:Letter from Money Shop 051012    Passed to Red Castle Recovery outstanding £420.75
10/10/2012 DOC:Letter from Red Castle Recoveries 101012        outstanding £420.75
29/10/2012 DOC:Letter to Money Shop 291012            Disputing amount was £275
31/10/2012 DOC:Letter from Red Castle Recoveries 311012        Reply we are inquiring with Money Shop
19/11/2012 DOC:Letter from Red Castle Recoveries 191112        Confirming outstanding £420.75
26/11/2012 DOC:Letter from Red Castle Recoveries 261112
13/12/2012 DOC:Letter from Red Castle Recoveries 131212        Red Castle no longer involved
15/02/2013 DOC:Letter from Credit Resource Solutions 150213    You owe us £420.75 no info on where or why or to whom
13/03/2013 DOC:Letter to Credit Resource Solutions 130313    Inquiring who they are
16/01/2019 Letter from BW Legal 160119  (reckons owe 379.10) DOC:Letter from BW Legal 160119
03/02/2021 Letter sent to home address DOC:Letter from BW legal 030221
02/03/2021 Email from BW Legal to Son's email DOC:Email from BW Legal 020321
08/03/2021 DOC:Letter from BW legal 080321 page1 DOC:Letter from BW legal 080321 page2
22/11/2021 DOC:Letter from BW legal 221121 offer repayment of £113-73 total
    They state "Our client:PRAC Financial Limited"
    Original creditor "Instant Cash Loans Ltd t/a The Money Shop"

Are they legally entitled to get this money from my son ( although it is a relatively small amount his total debts are quite large ) so this is a start

Anything with DOC against it means I have a copy of it

 

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How old was he?

 

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Last payment date?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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send them our statute barred letter from the debt collection section of our library.

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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  • dx100uk changed the title to PRAC/BW chasing son's 2011 loan from Money Shop
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In reply to the letter I sent BW Legal on 17th December 2012, My son has received a letter from them which arrived on 24th Dec 2021. Both letters are enclosed here.

 

The letter from them says debt was assigned to their client (PRAC Financial) on 9th Dec 2016 and therefore does not constitute as Statue barred.


On page 5 the letter allegedly sent by BW Legal on 15th Dec 2016 states that Money Shop notified PRAC that he is making payments towards your account and the last recorded payment was £10 on 13th October 2016.

 

Firstly, this letter was not received from BW Legal at the address sent to in Essex. My son had not lived at that address for over 3 years and any letters I received were always returned labelled "NOT AT THIS ADDRESS"


I have checked both my son's and my back accounts and there are no payments to The Money Shop anytime in 2016, in fact none since 2012. Both my and My son's bank accounts show no payments to the Money Shop since 2012 I think one of the 3 companies concerned in this are trying to dishonestly  stopping the Statute Barre applying.

 

 

What do I do now please

Regards
Pat

 

Letter received 241221.pdf Letter to BW legal 171221.docx

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they can't 

ignore them 

 

until/unless they send a letter of claim. do nothing more 

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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