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Tick yes and send to SCM.

 

Usually no other witnesses.

 

Just tick no regarding agreement of the directions.

 

That quick enough for you.

 

Yay! :cool: Quick enough indeed.

 

But can you just clarify point 2.

 

Secondly, Section C (Witnesses) - I have put my own name obviously, but it asks "witness to which facts'?.

 

Its the "Witness to which facts?" bit that is throwing me.

 

I'm tempted to write "All of them innit!" ;-)

 

What goes in there?

13th Nov 2006 - Preliminary Letter delivered to branch

30th Nov 2006 - LBA - deliverered to branch

30th Nov 2006 - Standard 'we are looking into this letter'

15th Dec 2006 - SAR delivered to branch to demand six years statements (currently pursuing 5 years)

19th Dec 2006 -750 Pounds offered as settlement. Accepted as PART settlement 20th Dec 2006.

Filed with MCOL online - Notice of issue from 17th Jan 2007.

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Heeeheee. :p

 

Ok...I'll go with that. Thanks for the quick response.

 

Been at this for hours (Hand Written) - time to go and relax and I'll take it to the court tomorrow.

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30th Nov 2006 - Standard 'we are looking into this letter'

15th Dec 2006 - SAR delivered to branch to demand six years statements (currently pursuing 5 years)

19th Dec 2006 -750 Pounds offered as settlement. Accepted as PART settlement 20th Dec 2006.

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Sorry on reflection, 'All facts and matters relevant to this claim.'

 

Probably a bit late, but you can use the PDF version in my post 46, it it easier to complete as you can cut and past and it looks better.

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Sorry on reflection, 'All facts and matters relevant to this claim.'

 

Probably a bit late, but you can use the PDF version in my post 46, it it easier to complete as you can cut and past and it looks better.

 

I went with "All facts to be contained in court bundle"

 

As i said, it's handwritten - as I have no printer :x

 

I used my poshest scrawl though. :p

 

Hope the above will suffice after all that? :confused:

13th Nov 2006 - Preliminary Letter delivered to branch

30th Nov 2006 - LBA - deliverered to branch

30th Nov 2006 - Standard 'we are looking into this letter'

15th Dec 2006 - SAR delivered to branch to demand six years statements (currently pursuing 5 years)

19th Dec 2006 -750 Pounds offered as settlement. Accepted as PART settlement 20th Dec 2006.

Filed with MCOL online - Notice of issue from 17th Jan 2007.

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AQ delivered to County Court today. :)

13th Nov 2006 - Preliminary Letter delivered to branch

30th Nov 2006 - LBA - deliverered to branch

30th Nov 2006 - Standard 'we are looking into this letter'

15th Dec 2006 - SAR delivered to branch to demand six years statements (currently pursuing 5 years)

19th Dec 2006 -750 Pounds offered as settlement. Accepted as PART settlement 20th Dec 2006.

Filed with MCOL online - Notice of issue from 17th Jan 2007.

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Awwwww...

 

Had a really nice letter from Lloyds today saying that they thank me for my letter of 20th december where i rejected their goodwill offer and that they know that their solicitors are now dealing with my county court claim.

 

It only took them a month to do that. How sweet.

 

I'll see them in court. Well...probably not...:rolleyes:

13th Nov 2006 - Preliminary Letter delivered to branch

30th Nov 2006 - LBA - deliverered to branch

30th Nov 2006 - Standard 'we are looking into this letter'

15th Dec 2006 - SAR delivered to branch to demand six years statements (currently pursuing 5 years)

19th Dec 2006 -750 Pounds offered as settlement. Accepted as PART settlement 20th Dec 2006.

Filed with MCOL online - Notice of issue from 17th Jan 2007.

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Awwwww...

 

Had a really nice letter from Lloyds today saying that they thank me for my letter of 20th december where i rejected their goodwill offer and that they know that their solicitors are now dealing with my county court claim.

 

It only took them a month to do that. How sweet.

 

I'll see them in court. Well...probably not...:rolleyes:

 

Doubt it. lol

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  • 3 weeks later...

A bump and a "Should I be calling the court by now..as I have heard nothing?"

13th Nov 2006 - Preliminary Letter delivered to branch

30th Nov 2006 - LBA - deliverered to branch

30th Nov 2006 - Standard 'we are looking into this letter'

15th Dec 2006 - SAR delivered to branch to demand six years statements (currently pursuing 5 years)

19th Dec 2006 -750 Pounds offered as settlement. Accepted as PART settlement 20th Dec 2006.

Filed with MCOL online - Notice of issue from 17th Jan 2007.

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Not unusual to wait this long for directions, however it will do no harm to call the court, they are usually quite helpful and friendly.

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*update*

 

Called the court yesterday. Lady told me that the AQ was with the district judge but he has about 3-4 weeks backlog and is very busy.

 

Couldn't tell me any more.

 

Patiently I wait. :-?:(

13th Nov 2006 - Preliminary Letter delivered to branch

30th Nov 2006 - LBA - deliverered to branch

30th Nov 2006 - Standard 'we are looking into this letter'

15th Dec 2006 - SAR delivered to branch to demand six years statements (currently pursuing 5 years)

19th Dec 2006 -750 Pounds offered as settlement. Accepted as PART settlement 20th Dec 2006.

Filed with MCOL online - Notice of issue from 17th Jan 2007.

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...update...

 

no movement.

 

That is all. :(

13th Nov 2006 - Preliminary Letter delivered to branch

30th Nov 2006 - LBA - deliverered to branch

30th Nov 2006 - Standard 'we are looking into this letter'

15th Dec 2006 - SAR delivered to branch to demand six years statements (currently pursuing 5 years)

19th Dec 2006 -750 Pounds offered as settlement. Accepted as PART settlement 20th Dec 2006.

Filed with MCOL online - Notice of issue from 17th Jan 2007.

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Rotherham Crown Court.

 

Glad there are others at the same stage...I lost all my contemporaries when they won ages ago! :lol:

 

Shouldn't be long now...but this has seemed the most frustrating time as everything is out of your hands.

 

Will take a read of your thread.

 

Good luck. :)

13th Nov 2006 - Preliminary Letter delivered to branch

30th Nov 2006 - LBA - deliverered to branch

30th Nov 2006 - Standard 'we are looking into this letter'

15th Dec 2006 - SAR delivered to branch to demand six years statements (currently pursuing 5 years)

19th Dec 2006 -750 Pounds offered as settlement. Accepted as PART settlement 20th Dec 2006.

Filed with MCOL online - Notice of issue from 17th Jan 2007.

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  • 4 weeks later...

May 18th!!! Yay!

13th Nov 2006 - Preliminary Letter delivered to branch

30th Nov 2006 - LBA - deliverered to branch

30th Nov 2006 - Standard 'we are looking into this letter'

15th Dec 2006 - SAR delivered to branch to demand six years statements (currently pursuing 5 years)

19th Dec 2006 -750 Pounds offered as settlement. Accepted as PART settlement 20th Dec 2006.

Filed with MCOL online - Notice of issue from 17th Jan 2007.

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Thanks folks... Maybe I jumped the gun a little. :confused:

 

I've been home and actually read the letter now. I don't seem to have a court date after all.

 

Before District Judge ****** in the *****county court

 

IT IS ORDERED THAT

 

The court is considering allocating this matter to the small claims track. The parties shall lodge any objection by 4pm on 18th May 2007.

 

Does anyone know how much longer for a court date after that time? And do Lloyds use such orders to further draw out the process?

 

A confused and slightly dejected hudu. :|

13th Nov 2006 - Preliminary Letter delivered to branch

30th Nov 2006 - LBA - deliverered to branch

30th Nov 2006 - Standard 'we are looking into this letter'

15th Dec 2006 - SAR delivered to branch to demand six years statements (currently pursuing 5 years)

19th Dec 2006 -750 Pounds offered as settlement. Accepted as PART settlement 20th Dec 2006.

Filed with MCOL online - Notice of issue from 17th Jan 2007.

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This order is unusual, looks like the judge is playing is safe before allocation, as your claim in around the small - fast track threshold.

 

Nothing to do with Lloyds delaying tactics.

 

At a guess, it will probably be another month before you hear again with directions that will usually include a hearing date.

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It did seem odd, as I was quite clear in my AQ that it was below the threshold before interest and asked that the judge would consider this.

 

You say the judge was probably 'playing safe' - what would be the reasoning behind that?

 

I'm confuzzled. :confused:

13th Nov 2006 - Preliminary Letter delivered to branch

30th Nov 2006 - LBA - deliverered to branch

30th Nov 2006 - Standard 'we are looking into this letter'

15th Dec 2006 - SAR delivered to branch to demand six years statements (currently pursuing 5 years)

19th Dec 2006 -750 Pounds offered as settlement. Accepted as PART settlement 20th Dec 2006.

Filed with MCOL online - Notice of issue from 17th Jan 2007.

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He just wants to give the parties the opportunity to object, prior to allocating a borderline claim to the small claims track, this is speculation on my part though.

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*UPDATE - such that it is*

 

I called the court and they said the court date could be anything up to 15 weeks away.

 

Why have I paid these people money? :mad:

13th Nov 2006 - Preliminary Letter delivered to branch

30th Nov 2006 - LBA - deliverered to branch

30th Nov 2006 - Standard 'we are looking into this letter'

15th Dec 2006 - SAR delivered to branch to demand six years statements (currently pursuing 5 years)

19th Dec 2006 -750 Pounds offered as settlement. Accepted as PART settlement 20th Dec 2006.

Filed with MCOL online - Notice of issue from 17th Jan 2007.

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