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    • no i meant the email from parcel2go which email address did they send it from and who signed it off (whos name is at the bottom)
    • I understand confusion with this thread.  I tried to keep threads separate because there have been so many angles.    But a team member merged them all.  This is why it's hard to keep track. This forum exists to help little people fight injustice - however big or small.  Im here to try get a decent resolution. Not to give in to the ' big boys'. My "matter' became complicated 'matters' simply because a lender refused to sell a property. What can I say?  I'll try in a nutshell to give an overview: There's a long lease property. I originally bought it short lease with a s.146 on it from original freeholder.  I had no concerns. So lender should have been able to sell a well-maintained lovely long lease property.  The property was great. The issue is not the property.  Economy, sdlt increases, elections, brexit, covid, interest hikes etc didn't help.  The issue is simple - the lender wanted to keep it.    Before repo I offered to clear my loan.  I was a bit short and lender refused.  They said (recorded) they thought the property was worth much more and they were happy to keep accruing interest (in their benefit) until it reached a point where they felt they could repo and still easily quickly sell to get their £s back.  This was a mistake.  The market was (and is) tough.   2y later the lender ceo bid the same sum to buy the property for himself. He'd rejected higher offers in the intervening period whilst accruing interest. I had the property under offer to a fantastic niche buyer but lender rushed to repo and buyer got spooked and walked.  It had taken a long time to find such a lucrative buyer.  A sale which would have resulted in £s and another asset for me. Post repo lender had 1 offer immediately.  But dragged out the process for >1y - allegedly trying to get other offers. But disclosure shows there was only one valid buyer. Lender appointed receiver (after 4 months) - simply to try acquire the freehold.  He used his powers as receiver to use me, as leaseholder, to serve notice on freeholders.  Legally that failed. Meanwhile lender failed to secure property - and squatters got in (3 times).  And they failed to maintain it.  So freeholders served a dilapidations notice (external) - on me as leaseholder (cc-ed to lender).   (That's how it works legally) I don't own the freehold.  But I am a trustee and have to do right by the freeholders.  This is where matters got/ get complicated.  And probably lose most caggers.   Lawyers got involved for the freeholders to firstly void the receiver enfranchisement notice. Secondly, to serve the dilapidations notice.  The lack of maintenance was in breach of lease and had to be served to protect fh asset. The lender did no repairs. They said a buyer would undertake them. Which was probably correct. If they had sold. After 1y lender finally agreed to sell to the 1st offeror and contracts went with lawyers.  Within 1 month lender reneged.  Lender tried to suggest buyer walked. Evidence shows he/ his lawyers continued trying to exchange (cash) for 4 months.  Evidence shows lender and receiver strategy had been to renege and for ceo to take control.   I still think that's their plan. Lender then stupidly chose to pretty much bulldoze the property.  Other stuff was going on in the background. After repo I was in touch by phone and email and lender knew post got to me.   Despite this, after about 10 months (before and then during covid), they deliberately sent SDs and eventually a B petition to an incorrect address and an obscure small court.  They never served me properly.  (In hindsight I understand they hoped to get a backdoor B - so they could keep the property that way.)  Eventually the random court told them to email me by way of service.  At this point their ruse to make me B failed.  I got a lawyer (friend paid). The B petition was struck out. They’d failed to include the property as an asset. They were in breach of insolvency rules. Simultaneously the receiver again appointed lawyers to act on my behalf as leaseholder. This time to serve notice on the freeholders for a lease extension.  He had hoped to try and vary the strict lease. Evidence shows the already long length of lease wasn't an issue.  The lender obviously hoped to get round their lack of permission to do works (which they were already doing) by hoping to remove the strict clauses that prevent leaseholder doing alterations.   The extension created a new legal angle for me to deal with.  I had to act as trustee for freeholders against me as leaseholder/ the receiver.  Inconsistencies and incompetence by receiver lawyers dragged this out 3y.  It still isn't properly resolved.  Meanwhile - going back to the the works the lender undertook. The works were consciously in breach of lease.  The lender hadn't remedied the breaches listed in the dilapidations notice.  They destroyed the property.  The trustees compiled all evidence.  The freeholders lawyers then served a forfeiture notice. This notice started a different legal battle. I was acting for the freeholders against what the lender had done on my behalf as leaseholder.  This legal battle took 3y to resolve. The simple exit would have been for lender to sell. A simple agreement to remedy the breaches and recompense the freeholders in compensation - and there's have been clean title to sell.  That option was proposed to them.   This happened by way of mediation for all parties 2y ago.  A resolution option was put forward and in principle agreed.  But immediately after the lender lawyers failed to engage.  A hard lesson to learn - mediation cannot be referred to in court. It's considered w/o prejudice. The steps they took have made no difference to their ability to sell the property.  Almost 3y since they finished works they still haven't sold. ** ** I followed up some leads myself.  A qualified cash buyer offered me a substantial sum.  The lender and receiver both refused it.   I found another offer in disclosure.  6 months later someone had apparently offered a substantial sum via an agent.  The receiver again rejected it.  The problem of course was that the agent had inflated the market price to get the business. But no-one was or is ever going to offer their list price.  Yet the receiver wanted/wants to hold out for the list price.  Which means 1y later not only has it not sold - disclosure shows few viewings and zero interest.  It's transparently over-priced.  And tarnished. For those asking why I don't give up - I couldn't/ can't.  Firstly I have fiduciary duties as a trustee. Secondly, legal advice indicates I (as leaseholder) could succeed with a large compensation claim v the lender.  Also - I started a claim v my old lawyer and the firm immediately reimbursed some £s. That was encouraging.  And a sign to continue.  So I'm going for compensation.  I had finance in place (via friend) to do a deal and take the property back off the lender - and that lawyer messed up bad.   He should have done a deal.  Instead further years have been wasted.   Maybe I only get back my lost savings - but that will be a result.   If I can add some kind of complaint/ claim v the receiver's conscious impropriety I will do so.   I have been left with nothing - so fighting for something is worth it. The lender wants to talk re a form of settlement.  Similar to my proposal 2y ago.  I have a pretty clear idea of what that means to me.  This is exactly why I do not give up.  And why I continue to ask for snippets of advice/ pointers on cag.  
    • It was all my own work based on my previous emails to P2G which Bank has seen.
    • I was referring to #415 where you wrote "I was forced to try to sell - and couldn't." . And nearer the start in #79 .. "I couldn't sell.  I had an incredibly valuable asset. Huge equity.  But the interest accrued / the property market suffered and I couldn't find a buyer even at a level just to clear the debt." In #194 you said you'd tried to sell for four years.  The reason for these points is that a lot of the claims against for example your surveyor, solicitor, broker, the lender and now the receiver are mainly founded in a belief that they should have been able to do something but did not. Things that might seem self evident to you but not necessarily to others. Pressing these claims may well need a bit more hard evidence, rather than an appeal to common sense. Can you show evidence of similar properties, with similar freehold issues, selling readily? And solid reasons why the lender should have been able to sell when you couldn't.
    • You can use a family's address.   The only caveat is for the final hearing you'd need to be there in person   HOWEVER i'd expect them to pay if its only £200 because costs of attending will be higher than that
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      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

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Please help me, I think i'm being a little thick here what is OSC,

and if so can i caim back any money from it as i have been with Bright House for ages?

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Hi Caggers

 

I have been with Bright House for a while now, and I must say as much as i find their prices extortionate,

 

I repeatedly keep getting harassed by text messages or phone calls on the day I am ment to pay.

 

I have told them over and over again That I am aware that it is my day to pay and i will be down to pay my bill

but i keep getting calls and texts (texts at least 3 or 4 every saturday).

 

Now i have them verbally on the phone, instore and even written them a letter stating if I dont stop getting these 'REMINDERS'

I will go to the OFT.

 

They havnt been stopping so what or how do i go about contacting the OFT

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you have two insurances you are paying for:

 

Optional Service Cover

 

Damage Liability Cover

 

you can reclaim them

 

as for the harassment, send them the harassment letter from the green top left library tab.

 

dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Good Afternoon Sash Knighton

 

Optional Service Cover (OSC) was available to customers who took out an agreement prior to 2nd September 2013. OSC gives customer’s the added benefit of a full service package together with peace of mind.

 

Some of the benefits of OSC include:

 

· It is optional and can be cancelled with 7 days notice

· Covers cost of product repairs

· Response within 72 hours

· Repair or loan replacement given (where applicable)

· You can return your product for whatever reason, whenever you want, without penalty, with nothing more to pay. Goods must be undamaged and in good working order and repair.

· If you return your product you can benefit from a restart voucher. (You can even restart your agreement up to 12 months later, and the payments you have made will still count against a product of similar age and specification).

 

Please note that if you took out your agreement after 2nd September 2013 we now include a similar range of benefits as a standard part of our service and it is already included in your weekly price.

 

We are able to stop any ‘Best Day to Pay’ reminder texts that you seem to be receiving, including any other marketing calls / texts / correspondence. In order for us to do this, we just need to confirm the telephone number/s that you are receiving the calls to.

If you would like to discuss your account and any concerns you may have, please can you email us at [email protected] with your account details (name, address, store the account is with) and with any relevant information that would enable us to handle your enquiry as effectively as possible.

 

Alternatively, you may also speak directly to a Customer Relations Representative on 0800 526 069 who will be happy to help you.

 

Please update this thread with any feedback once we have spoken to you.

 

We apologise for any inconvenience caused and we look forward to hearing from you.

 

Many Thanks

 

Jason

Web Relations Team

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OSC and DLC are totally unnecessary as the sale of goods act covers you FOR FREE..

 

as for hiding them in the 'new agreements'

 

so WHERE does the FREE COVER under SOGA sit with this?

 

the customer DOES NOT NEED COMPULSORY repair insurance or compulsory theft insurance......

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Thanks DX And just a update for everyone,

 

i phoned bright house web relations team and the lady was more than helpful and

 

said that if i go in store and ask for my agreement then they will print it off there and then,

 

And she also stated that brighthouse like to sort things out before going to small claims court especially if i have been miss sold OSC.

 

She then said that because of this she is going to raise a complaint on my behalf.

 

I will keep you all updated what happens

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DLC too ?

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I didnt think i could claim DLC as i havnt got insurance on my home? If i can claim it i will do

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there is no legal requirement on HP agreements for the goods to be insured

 

it is solely a condition within BH's T&C.

 

and as we know with PPI & Credit/Loan PENALTY charges

 

being contained within their T&C's does not make it unchallengeable

 

ask them specifically where the HP agreements act states the goods MUST be insured against loss or theft....

 

we cant find it...

 

did you read that link I sent...

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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there is no legal requirement on HP agreements for the goods to be insured

 

it is solely a condition within BH's T&C.

 

and as we know with PPI & Credit/Loan PENALTY charges

 

being contained within their T&C's does not make it unchallengeable

 

ask them specifically where the HP agreements act states the goods MUST be insured against loss or theft....

 

we cant find it...

 

did you read that link I sent...

 

dx

 

You've just made things perfectly clear for me on my claim, I have several past accounts with BH ... I shall be challenging this point - asking for where it requires in Law that it must be insured.

 

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that'll be fun!!

 

we cant find any

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi again caggersI have been looking for a template to send to head office to claim all of these hidden costs back, any ideas where i can get one or if someone wants to type one up for me as my wording is not as good as most, thanks

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so you've done a spreadsheet?

 

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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yes it might be an idea to workout how much they owe you back

 

have you all the statements?

 

see link 3 below

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I'm working it all out as we speak mate, but i thought i best give them a covering letter of my intentions but dont know how to start it

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Just an update folks I have filled out my calculation sheet that dx put on here (thanks). And it seems that Bright House have taken £674.14, so my calculations and a nice direct letter has been sent the head office, recorded and now have 14 days to respond.Would love to here how other people are getting on

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MERRY XMAS CAGGERS

 

UPDATE: Please see attached file

 

this is the letter i got back from bright house today.

 

It looks as though they have only looked into my agreements, and not what i was told verbally.

 

I spoke to someone on the phone from the costumer relations department, which he was not much help.

 

What should I do now people?

 

I have go to go in store today to pay my bill.

 

The OSC best have been taken off or I will refuse to pay until it has.

 

Advice please..

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Hi Sash.

 

The image is a little small to be able to read

 

Any chance you can convert it to a PDF file.

If you are asked to deal with any matter via private message, PLEASE report it.

Everything I say is opinion only. If you are unsure on any comment made, you should see a qualified solicitor

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Hi silver fox, I have just had a call from their area manager and has made me an offer of £200, i might be a bit silly but i have accepted it on the grounds that I'm making a little video that will be on youtube soon to show people and let them know that it is possible to do this. When it is done i will send you the link to it.

Thanks you for all your help

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