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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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I will SG, thank you, it is more for o/h then me lol,

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all can se is what I posted so not sure about the graphics, anything that works better then this laptop I am using will be great!

 

those pics are only 'illustrative only' according to their website, so don't completely rely on those as what you will actually get.

no worries re graphics card. from what you say is intended use, onboard integrated graphics should be ok if its not too old?

so, for the 30 more you get a refurbished dell with dual core processor, 1 gb memory more, and 20 gb more on the hard drive capacity, and 1 year rtb warranty? seems ok?

do you need wi fi (eg wireless connection to your broadband router)?

see what others think

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no I use ethernet for my BB, never had wireless, even this laptop is not wireless! not mine anyway thank goodness.

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well took a chance and decided on getting one with a hd upgrade, it arrived Tuesday and the driver dropped the box,said to him it better work now, he said it is well padded! Did not set it up till today and it does not work, the push button on the tower is loose and does not seem to go on/off. Tried it several times and checked all connections but nothing, did hear it make a slight noise when connected to internet but it stopped as soon as it started so not happy as £136 is a lot to me, I have contacted the place it came from and am waiting for a reply or I will have to phone them

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You really should have refused to accept delivery.

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I know at the time my mind was elsewhere as o/h is not well, they are giving me another one

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8 is OK but download Classic Start Button software (it's free and no nags) to give you a proper start button until and if you get used to the Metro system. Windows 8.1, to be released on 17th October is a bit better but only available free if you have an existing license. Win 7 is reliable. If you don't like change stick with 7 otherwise go for 8 but it can be annoying and can insist on doing things its way. I use both, including the preview of 8.1 but prefer 7. If you decide to get a touch screen 8 is the best choice.

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With laptops, there is one golden rule. You get what you pay for. ( Unless its built by apple)

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need help please, had the tower replaced and it arrived today, just gone to set it up and lo and behold nothing, for one thing there is something missing from where you put the blue connecting end in the tower, IE one screw hole is incomplete, another it does not even fire up and also the on/off button does not do anything, it is not my end as this laptop is on window 7 as well and connected by ethernet and works straight away, am I within my rights to say enough is enough and get a full refund? had enough now

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If the 'blue thing' means the graphic socket, then that means you have no onboard graphics and need a graphics card.

 

Booting up, is there an on/off switch on the power supply where you plugged in the mains (kettle) lead ?

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sorry not good at explaining things, there is a a switch which I tried and nothing, it comes on and goes off, the blue thing I mean it at the end of a black cable it has 2 blue plug things that you screw to the tower and one to the monitor etc, it is the screw bit that is missing so not able to screw it in right, hope that makes sense? the on/off switch at the front just does no work,I could see the ethernet cable was working and the monitor works

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sounds like the vga cable that goes into the vga port on the tower. it should work anyway without having to screw in the screws with it so long as it is plugged in to the port.

does the pc start booting up at all?

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no Ford it does not, it make a sound like it wants to but nothing, tried everything, made sure all cables etc were in right but nothing

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even without a monitor attached, or even with no graphics, a pc should begin to 'start' up when pressing the on button.

surely they would've tested it before sending out!

just to double check;

power cord to power supply is in and switched on at plug? also check the power supply unit switch at back of case is on, if there is one.

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sorry not good at explaining things, there is a a switch which I tried and nothing, it comes on and goes off, the blue thing I mean it at the end of a black cable it has 2 blue plug things that you screw to the tower and one to the monitor etc, it is the screw bit that is missing so not able to screw it in right, hope that makes sense? the on/off switch at the front just does no work,I could see the ethernet cable was working and the monitor works

The graphic plug can be used without the screw holder provided the plug is plugged in so that the ends where the screws are entered straight in and once plugged in the plug doesn't wobble if you attempt to wobble it. However, if you move either the tower and/or the cable moves this may be enough for the connection to break and the display will go dark.

 

However, if the monitor works with the plug you describe you have entered it correctly bearing in my my proviso above about possible movement. Also, I assume you can see the Ethernet cable lights flashing when you say the ethernet cable is working. This means that the on/off switch is working otherwise nothing would work and I suggest the LED indicating the switch is working is the problem.

 

If this is a new machine I suggest you contact the supplier, report the faults and take it from there as there is a strong possibility that if you have these, albeit minor faults, there are probably other more major hidden faults just waiting to bite you. It does suggest sloppy building and a lack of post testing by the supplier before dispatching it you as neither would be a result of transportation damage.

 

Hope this helps.

 

It is possible that the missing screw was removed when the graphics plug was originally used and then removed for dispatch. This can happen if during the original build the internal connection was not securely fixed or the plug was overtightened meaning that on removal it took the connecting socket screw with it. The LED failing to light will almost certainly be down to a faulty solder joint. DO NOT attempt this repair unless you have small part soldering skills.

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thanks, it is from a company called encore ( stone group) who specialise is refurbished/rebuilds of dell laptops and desktops.The ethernet light was lit up in the back of the tower but it will not come on at all, no noise etc.Really fed up now

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no Ford it does not, it make a sound like it wants to but nothing, tried everything, made sure all cables etc were in right but nothing

 

ok, it makes a sound. could give em a call, if they can't troubleshoot fix over the phone insist on return at their expense and full refund if you want. or insist on a refund anyway. if they offer another one try get a free upgrade due to the inconvenience. up to you.

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thanks, going to ask for full refund as this is second one now, thank you all for your help

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Just make sure it's not Lenovo. It really is a piece of cheap junk.

I had a Lenovo laptop which I bought whilst working in Bali. It was used heavily, I made constant software alterations to, it experienced high temperatures and almost 100% humidity for most of its life with me. After 4 years I sold it on return to the UK as it is still in use today, 6 years after purchased. I never had a single problem with it and it was never cleaned, it just worked. It still does!

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my step daughter has a lenovo laptop which has always worked fine

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Yes, they work ok. They are from IBM who probably knows more about computers than anyone.

 

They are built down to a price though. Usually just one speaker and very flimsy case, especially around the hinges.

 

As a starter they are ok, but I wouldn't recommend anyone go and buy one.

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