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    • Absolutely for the agreement they are referring to.... puts them on notice that this is going to be a uphill fight.   Andy 
    • Particular's of claim for reference only 1. the claim is for the sum of £6163.61due by the defendant under an agreement regulated by the consumer credit act 1974 for hsbc uk bank plc. Account (16 digits) 2. The defendant failed to maintain contractual payments required by the agreement and a default notice was served under s 87(1)  of the consumer credit act 1974 which as not been compiled with. 3. The debt was legally assigned to the Claimant on 23/08/23, notice on which as been given to the defendant.  4. The claim includes statutory interest under S.69 of the county courts act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of issue of these proceedings in the sum of £117.53 the Claimant claims the sum of £6281.14. Suggested defence 1. The Defendant contends the particulars of the claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.3 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. The claimant has not complied with paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre action protocol) failed to serve a letter of claim pre claim pursuant to PAPDC changes of the 1st of October 2017. It is respectfully requested that the court take this into consideration pursuant 7.1 PAPDC. 3. Paragraph 1 is noted. I have in the past had financial dealings but do not recognise this specific account number or recollect any outstanding debt and have therefore requested clarification. 4. Paragraph 2 is denied. I have not been served with a default notice pursuant to the consumer credit act 1974. 5. Paragraph 3 is denied. i am unaware of any legal assignment or notice of assignment. A copy of assignment was sent by Overdales solicitors when acknowledgement of receipt of CPR request was received, but this was not the original.   6. Paragraph 4 is denied. Neither the original creditor or the assignee have served notice pursuant to sec86c of the Credit Consumer Act 1974 Notice of Sums in Arrears and therefore prevented from charging interest on debt regulated by the CCA1974. 7. The defendant submitted a request for a copy of the alleged agreement pursuant to s78 CCA 1974. The claimant has acknowledged receipt of request but has failed to comply. The claimant has failed to provide any evidence of balance or Default Notice requested by CPR 31.14 8. It is therefore denied with regards to defendant owing any monies to the claimant. therefore the claimant is put to strict proof to:  a.  Show how the defendant has entered into an agreement with HSBC. b.  Show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a Default notice pursuant to section 87 (1) CCA 1974. c.  Show and quantify how the defendant has reached the amount claimed for. d.  Show how the claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity  to issue a claim. 8.  As per civil procedure rule 16.5 (4) it is expected claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 9.  Until such time the claimant can comply to a section 78 request he is not entitled, while the default continues, to enforce the agreement 10. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.     .
    • OK, well rereading the court orders from March, in the cold light of day rather than when knackered late at night, it is quite clear that on 25 June there will only be a preliminary hearing about Laura representing her son.  Nothing more. It's lazy DCBL who haven't read things properly and have stupidly sent their Witness Statement early. Laura & I had already been working on a WS, and here it is.  It needs tweaking now after reading the rubbish that DCBL sent and after all of LFI's comments.  But the "meat" is there. Defendant's WS - version 1.pdf
    • Morning, I purchased a car from Big Motoring World on 10th December 2023 for £14899.00. On the 15th December I had a problem with the auto start stop function of the car in which the car would stop in the middle of the road with a stop start error message. I called the big assist and the car was booked in for February. The BMW was with them for a week and it came back with the auto stop start feature all fine and all error codes cleared on the report from big motoring world. within 5 days I had the same issue. Warning light coming on and the car stopping. I called big assist again and the car was again booked in for an other repair in May. Car was taken back in may, they had the car for a week and returned with the report saying no issue with the auto stop start feature and blamed my driving. Within 5 days of having the car back it broke down again. This time undrivable. I had the rac pick my car up and take to Stephen James BMW for a full diagnostic. The diagnostic came back with the car needing a new fuel system as magnetic swarf was found.  I have sent big motoring world a letter stating all the issues and that under the consumer rights act 2015 I have asked for a replacement vehicle. all reports from Stephen James BMW have been sent over to big motoring world. Big motoring world have come back and said they will respond to my complaint within 14 days for the date of my complaint letter. I am not feeling confident on the response from them, what are my next steps?   Thanks in advance. 
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Pulled over to the left so as not to be squashed by the looming white van turning right into the road and got stuck with back wheels in the box - do I just have to suck it up or is this worth appealing do you think? Pic below...

 

Any advice much appreciated - thanks, Sarah

 

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I'd say fair cop myself, especially as it's more than just back wheels, looking at picture, and the picture doesn't make it look as if the van was posing any kind of threat.

 

Just my opinion, I wasn't there, but looking at the picture from an unbiased point of view, I wouldn't have thought there was anything there apart from a driver driving across the junction when passage is not clear at the other end. Sorry. :-(

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If you were in the right hand lane and you exit from the box junction was clear then you have every right to enter the box juction.

 

If after entering the white van pushed in from the right forcing you to the left where you couldnt then exit then I think thats a reasnoble excuse.

 

The offence is entering the box junction when the exit isnt clear unless of course you were turning right and your exit was blocked by oncoming traffic.

 

I would certainly appeal I think you have a case

 

But its only my opinion

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Also having had a close look at the photo are you sure you are in the box junction !!

 

It looks to me that the diaganal lines end before your wheels. They dont continue on. It may be a fault with the marking but thats not your problem Have a look at the other side of the road. there is certainly a difference.

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Also having had a close look at the photo are you sure you are in the box junction !!

 

It looks to me that the diaganal lines end before your wheels. They dont continue on. It may be a fault with the marking but thats not your problem Have a look at the other side of the road. there is certainly a difference.

 

Roger - It is the car in front of the bus, which is wholly in the box junction. The only saving grace is that ALL the vehicles in the box junction were done

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this is actually video film, not still footage. ask to see the whole film, its youre right. if it shows you were proceding into a clear space but the white van "cut you up ' and forced you to vere off to the left, you have a good point of arguement, as you can show the actions of the van caused you to stop on the box junc. also, if you were proceding on a green light it will show that the van driver must have jumped the lights and entered on a red light.

it is always worth appealing as these things are never what they seem

good luck

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from the description of Sarah's post. Her car is the one in front of the bus, which is pulling into the road from the side road. Her car is also next to the white van.

 

I thought I was going mad. I couldnt see a bus but on closer inspection its there coming from the left road. I thought that was a market stall or the front of a shop.

 

Apologies.

 

I think getting the video is a good idea

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AFAIK, contrary to TfL's opinion, it is not an offence to stop in a box junction. It is an offence to enter a box junction unless your exit is clear (except for turning right, etc.).

 

If your video shows that your exit was clear when you entered, then no offence is committed - especially if you were forced out of lane by the WVM. Ask for the video; if they refuse, demand it with a SAR under the DPA

 

I also notice that the bus is across the yellow box hatching despite being at a red light - I wonder if he was done also?

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Pulled over to the left so as not to be squashed by the looming white van turning right into the road and got stuck with back wheels in the box - do I just have to suck it up or is this worth appealing do you think? Pic below...

 

Any advice much appreciated - thanks, Sarah

 

 

Road users have an obligation to avoid accidents.

 

As you say your action was to avoid a collision with the white van, you have a reasonable case that you should not be penalised for it ... even if your being in the box junction would otherwise have been an offence.

 

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