Jump to content


  • Tweets

  • Posts

    • An update to this case as I’ve not been on in a while.    I am still awaiting a charging decision in the case. The two police officers involved have said their personal belief is a section 47 ABH charge is the most likely outcome but this isn’t a sure thing of course.    The EA certificate from the issuing court has now lapsed. The court have refused to recertify him until they’ve had a hearing in to the case, and the district judge has issued orders to surrender all evidence, footage, photos etc.    I have done so promptly.    the EA, not so much . Equita have claimed they cannot provide his bodycam footage as the camera he was wearing is the EA personal one not one of theirs.   the EA has claimed he has asked Equita and the police for the footage as he claims he doesn’t have it.    the police have confirmed they didn’t seize his camera and they don’t have it.    so they are basically pointing the finger at each other all the while failing to comply with the district judges order to provide all evidence they intend to rely on at the rescheduled hearing.    The district judge has stated the hearing for his certification will NOT be the hearing for my complaint as there is no charge as of yet, and just as to whether he should be recertified or not.    I’m not 100% on why that can’t be done at the time, but I’m not about to question a judge…..      
    • Thanks FTMDave, I like the cut of your jib - I'll go with that and obtain proof of postage. Encouraging that NPE have never followed through and seem to blowing hot air, let's see where they go after this   Regards
    • Please see my comments in orange within your post.
    • no i meant the email from parcel2go which email address did they send it from and who signed it off (whos name is at the bottom)
    • I understand confusion with this thread.  I tried to keep threads separate because there have been so many angles.    But a team member merged them all.  This is why it's hard to keep track. This forum exists to help little people fight injustice - however big or small.  Im here to try get a decent resolution. Not to give in to the ' big boys'. My "matter' became complicated 'matters' simply because a lender refused to sell a property. What can I say?  I'll try in a nutshell to give an overview: There's a long lease property. I originally bought it short lease with a s.146 on it from original freeholder.  I had no concerns. So lender should have been able to sell a well-maintained lovely long lease property.  The property was great. The issue is not the property.  Economy, sdlt increases, elections, brexit, covid, interest hikes etc didn't help.  The issue is simple - the lender wanted to keep it.   House or Flat? Before repo I offered to clear my loan.  I was a bit short and lender refused.  They said (recorded) they thought the property was worth much more and they were happy to keep accruing interest (in their benefit) until it reached a point where they felt they could repo and still easily quickly sell to get their £s back.  This was a mistake.  The market was (and is) tough.   2y later the lender ceo bid the same sum to buy the property for himself. He'd rejected higher offers in the intervening period whilst accruing interest. Lenders have a legal obligation to sell the property for the best price they can get. If they feel the offer is low they won't sell it, because it's likely the borrower will say the same. I had the property under offer to a fantastic niche buyer but lender rushed to repo and buyer got spooked and walked.  It had taken a long time to find such a lucrative buyer.  A sale which would have resulted in £s and another asset for me. Post repo lender had 1 offer immediately.  But dragged out the process for >1y - allegedly trying to get other offers. But disclosure shows there was only one valid buyer. Again, points as above. Lender appointed receiver (after 4 months) - simply to try acquire the freehold.  He used his powers as receiver to use me, as leaseholder, to serve notice on freeholders.  Legally that failed. Meanwhile lender failed to secure property - and squatters got in (3 times).  And they failed to maintain it.  So freeholders served a dilapidations notice (external) - on me as leaseholder (cc-ed to lender).   (That's how it works legally) Why serve a delapidations notice? If it's in the terms of the lease to maintain the property to a good standard, then serve an S146 notice instead as it's a clear breach of the lease. I don't own the freehold.  But I am a trustee and have to do right by the freeholders.  This is where matters got/ get complicated.  And probably lose most caggers.   Lawyers got involved for the freeholders to firstly void the receiver enfranchisement notice. Secondly, to serve the dilapidations notice.  The lack of maintenance was in breach of lease and had to be served to protect fh asset. Enfranchisement isn't something that can be "voided", it's in the Leasehold Reform Act 1967 that leaseholders have the right to buy the freehold of the property. It's normal, whether it is a "normal" leaseholder or a repossession with a leasehold house, to claim this right of enfranchisement and sell the property with said rights attached and the purchase price of the freehold included in the final completion price. That's likely what the mortgage provider wished to do. The lender did no repairs. They said a buyer would undertake them. Which was probably correct. If they had sold. After 1y lender finally agreed to sell to the 1st offeror and contracts went with lawyers.  Within 1 month lender reneged.  Lender tried to suggest buyer walked. Evidence shows he/ his lawyers continued trying to exchange (cash) for 4 months.  Evidence shows lender and receiver strategy had been to renege and for ceo to take control.   I still think that's their plan. Redact and scan said evidence up for others to look at? Lender then stupidly chose to pretty much bulldoze the property.  Other stuff was going on in the background. After repo I was in touch by phone and email and lender knew post got to me.   Despite this, after about 10 months (before and then during covid), they deliberately sent SDs and eventually a B petition to an incorrect address and an obscure small court.  They never served me properly.  (In hindsight I understand they hoped to get a backdoor B - so they could keep the property that way.)  Eventually the random court told them to email me by way of service.  At this point their ruse to make me B failed.  I got a lawyer (friend paid). The B petition was struck out. They’d failed to include the property as an asset. They were in breach of insolvency rules. So this is dealt with then. Simultaneously the receiver again appointed lawyers to act on my behalf as leaseholder. This time to serve notice on the freeholders for a lease extension.  He had hoped to try and vary the strict lease. Evidence shows the already long length of lease wasn't an issue.  The lender obviously hoped to get round their lack of permission to do works (which they were already doing) by hoping to remove the strict clauses that prevent leaseholder doing alterations.  You wouldn't vary a lease through a lease extension. You'd need a Deed of Variation for that. This may be done at the same time but the lease has already been extended once and that's all they have a right to. The extension created a new legal angle for me to deal with.  I had to act as trustee for freeholders against me as leaseholder/ the receiver.  Inconsistencies and incompetence by receiver lawyers dragged this out 3y.  It still isn't properly resolved. The lease has already been extended once so they have no right to another extension. It seems pretty easy to just get the lawyer to say no and stick by those terms as the law is on your side there. Meanwhile - going back to the the works the lender undertook. The works were consciously in breach of lease.  The lender hadn't remedied the breaches listed in the dilapidations notice.  They destroyed the property.  The trustees compiled all evidence.  The freeholders lawyers then served a forfeiture notice. This notice started a different legal battle. I was acting for the freeholders against what the lender had done on my behalf as leaseholder.  This legal battle took 3y to resolve. Again, order them to revert it as they didn't have permission to do the works, or else serve an S146 notice for breach of the lease. The simple exit would have been for lender to sell. A simple agreement to remedy the breaches and recompense the freeholders in compensation - and there's have been clean title to sell.  That option was proposed to them.   This happened by way of mediation for all parties 2y ago.  A resolution option was put forward and in principle agreed.  But immediately after the lender lawyers failed to engage.  A hard lesson to learn - mediation cannot be referred to in court. It's considered w/o prejudice. The steps they took have made no difference to their ability to sell the property.  Almost 3y since they finished works they still haven't sold. ** ** I followed up some leads myself.  A qualified cash buyer offered me a substantial sum.  The lender and receiver both refused it.   I found another offer in disclosure.  6 months later someone had apparently offered a substantial sum via an agent.  The receiver again rejected it.  The problem of course was that the agent had inflated the market price to get the business. But no-one was or is ever going to offer their list price.  Yet the receiver wanted/wants to hold out for the list price.  Which means 1y later not only has it not sold - disclosure shows few viewings and zero interest.  It's transparently over-priced.  And tarnished. For those asking why I don't give up - I couldn't/ can't.  Firstly I have fiduciary duties as a trustee. Secondly, legal advice indicates I (as leaseholder) could succeed with a large compensation claim v the lender.  Also - I started a claim v my old lawyer and the firm immediately reimbursed some £s. That was encouraging.  And a sign to continue.  So I'm going for compensation.  I had finance in place (via friend) to do a deal and take the property back off the lender - and that lawyer messed up bad.   He should have done a deal.  Instead further years have been wasted.   Maybe I only get back my lost savings - but that will be a result.   If I can add some kind of complaint/ claim v the receiver's conscious impropriety I will do so.   I have been left with nothing - so fighting for something is worth it. The lender wants to talk re a form of settlement.  Similar to my proposal 2y ago.  I have a pretty clear idea of what that means to me.  This is exactly why I do not give up.  And why I continue to ask for snippets of advice/ pointers on cag.  
  • Recommended Topics

  • Our picks

    • If you are buying a used car – you need to read this survival guide.
      • 1 reply
    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
      • 81 replies
    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
      • 161 replies
    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
        • Like
  • Recommended Topics

Repossession questioned by deeds not being signed


style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 3710 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 6.3k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Heres another one for you BEN, er you WILL SEE IT IS SIGNED!!!!

 

 

Date:

Company: The Mortgage Works (UK) plc

Registered in England, Registered Number 02222856

Registered Office: Nationwide House, Pipers Way, Swindon, Wiltshire, SN38 1NW

Mortgage Conditions: The Company's Mortgage Conditions 2009

Borrower:

Property: Title No:

1. This Charge incorporates the Mortgage Conditions a copy of which has been received by the Borrower.

The Borrower hereby acknowledges receipt of:-

1.1 the advance (as defined in the Mortgage Conditions) or where the advance is made in instalments the first

instalment of the advance; and

1.2 a copy of the Mortgage Conditions and confirms that he has read and understands them.

2. The Borrower with full title guarantee charges to the Company with the payment of all moneys payable by the Borrower to

the Company under the Mortgage Conditions:-

2.1 by way of legal mortgage the Property.

2.2 by way of fixed charge all shares rights benefit and advantages at any time arising and/or vested in the Borrower in: -

a) any residents' or management company connected with the Property;

b) any company in which the reversion immediately expectant upon the determination of the term created by any

lease under which the Property is held is vested.

2.3 by way of mortgage the benefit of the landlord to and in the occupation leases (as defined in the Mortgage

Conditions) and the rents (as defined in the Mortgage Conditions) together with the benefit of any guarantees,

indemnities, rent deposits or other security held from time to time in respect of any of the occupation leases

provided that nothing in this subclause shall constitute the Company as mortgagee in possession.

3. This Charge secures further advances.

4. The Borrower hereby applies to the Registrar to enter the following restriction against the title referred to above:

"No disposition of the registered estate by the proprietor of the registered estate is to be registered without a written consent

signed by the proprietor for the time being of the Charge dated [this charge] in favour of The Mortgage Works (UK) plc

referred to in the Charges Register" in accordance with condition 4.9 of the Mortgage Conditions.

Signed as a deed by the Borrower in the presence of the Witness.

Form of charge filed at HM Land Registry under reference MD842LNote: Receipt not to be used for registered charges

The Mortgage Works (UK) plc acknowledges receipt of all moneys intended to be secured by the within written deed

IN WITNESS whereof The Mortgage Works (UK) plc has caused this receipt to be executed

this day of 20

Signed on behalf of The Mortgage Works (UK) plc:- Authorised Signatory:

Authorised Signatory:

Link to post
Share on other sites

I think Kegi need's a cup of tea, can you make him / her one ;-)

 

Do you know...funny he/she didn't ask for one.... How strange...everyone knows I make a good cup of tea ; )

 

Apple

[COLOR="red"][B][CENTER]"Errors do not cease to be errors simply because they’re ratified into law.” [/CENTER][/B][/COLOR][B][CENTER] E.A. Bucchianeri[/CENTER][/B]

Link to post
Share on other sites

Lamb Case

 

[ATTACH]47617[/ATTACH]

 

[ATTACH=CONFIG]47618[/ATTACH]

 

Thank you so much..... : )

 

Much appreciated....

 

 

Apple

[COLOR="red"][B][CENTER]"Errors do not cease to be errors simply because they’re ratified into law.” [/CENTER][/B][/COLOR][B][CENTER] E.A. Bucchianeri[/CENTER][/B]

Link to post
Share on other sites

dON'T ALL RUSH AT ONCE NOW LOL

 

too late....I'm on it......lol

 

Apple

[COLOR="red"][B][CENTER]"Errors do not cease to be errors simply because they’re ratified into law.” [/CENTER][/B][/COLOR][B][CENTER] E.A. Bucchianeri[/CENTER][/B]

Link to post
Share on other sites

Oh and here is one from N I just in case they feel left out lol

 

Land Registry of Northern Ireland

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Folio No: County:

 

Registered Owner:

 

Registered Owner

of Charge:

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

BARCLAYS BANK PLC acknowledges the receipt of all monies secured by

the within written Legal Mortgage

 

 

 

Dated this day of

 

 

 

SIGNED as a Deed and delivered by a duly

authorised Attorney for and on behalf of Barclays

Bank plc in the presence of:-

 

 

 

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

1 the Mortgage is comprised of the following Deed or Deeds:

 

DATE DESCRIPTION SERIAL NUMBER IN

REGISTRY OF DEED

 

 

you notice it has to be signed BEN

Link to post
Share on other sites

Oh and here is one from N I just in case they feel left out lol

 

Land Registry of Northern Ireland

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Folio No: County:

 

Registered Owner:

 

Registered Owner

of Charge:

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

BARCLAYS BANK PLC acknowledges the receipt of all monies secured by

the within written Legal Mortgage

 

 

 

Dated this day of

 

 

 

SIGNED as a Deed and delivered by a duly

authorised Attorney for and on behalf of Barclays

Bank plc in the presence of:-

 

 

 

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

1 the Mortgage is comprised of the following Deed or Deeds:

 

DATE DESCRIPTION SERIAL NUMBER IN

REGISTRY OF DEED

 

 

you notice it has to be signed BEN

 

Can I just point something out very quickly.......whilst the deed has to be signed by the lender...of that there is no doubt....

 

You will notice this deed says....

 

Barclays BANK PLC acknowledges the receipt of all monies secured by

the within written Legal mortgage

 

 

So, where's the issue you might ask?

 

Look again at the statement.... then ask yourself.....when is it that Barclays intend to 'acknowledge receipt of all monies'??

 

Then question....if you as a Borrower are paying in 'installments'..... there will be no execution of that document until ALL those instalments amount to the full balance of the loan.....right??

 

So, therefore....they don't execute it.....they can't execute it.....because essentially ....they say they will not execute it until ALL the money is paid in full.....

 

But, as a borrower... you took out a 25 year loan......Anyone managed to pay that 'final' installment???.......

 

NO!!

 

Everyone got or about to get a suspended possession order?

 

YES!!

 

Anyone's house been re-possessed before they get round to paying the final installment?

 

YES!!

 

Is the deed then signed/executed by the Lender..... (you know the same said Deed that they tell you they do not have to execute)

 

YES!!

 

FINAL QUESTIONS.....

 

IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE WHO STILL THINKS THE LENDER DOES NOT OR DOES NOT HAVE TO EXECUTE THE DEED???

 

IS THERE ANYONE WHO REMAINS UNSURE OF WHEN THAT DEED MUST BE EXECUTED BY THE LENDER.....?

 

can those who say...'a lender does not have to execute the deed'.....please come forward and let us all know......Why are they Executing them them... (albeit quite wrongly - in their own time frame of course)

 

I've said it once, I will say it again....Lenders cannot be allowed to continue to have it both ways....we have found out....we are on to them....

 

Now where is that horse I was accused of 'flogging' again???

 

Good On YOU Is It Me......Thanks for bringing these 'deeds' to the forum ; )

 

Apple

[COLOR="red"][B][CENTER]"Errors do not cease to be errors simply because they’re ratified into law.” [/CENTER][/B][/COLOR][B][CENTER] E.A. Bucchianeri[/CENTER][/B]

Link to post
Share on other sites

I think I ve made my point now lol

 

And THEN SOME - lol

 

I do believe the cavalry and the reinforcement is in full flow.....

 

Just got to look at 'lamb' now.....just to seal the deed....no pun intended...lol

 

 

Apple

[COLOR="red"][B][CENTER]"Errors do not cease to be errors simply because they’re ratified into law.” [/CENTER][/B][/COLOR][B][CENTER] E.A. Bucchianeri[/CENTER][/B]

Link to post
Share on other sites

The one Ive posted IS THE ONE BARCLAYS USE VIA WOOLWICH WHICH THEY OWN

tHEY HAVE NOT DONE THERE OWN MORTGAGES FOR YEARS.

 

Hello It Is It?

 

This feels like déjà va

 

Barclays took over the Woolwich in 2000. The two banks ( as by this time the Woolwich was a bank) continued to operate separately - different computer systems, different account numbers and sort-codes etc until 2006, when Barclays announced the closure of all of the Woolwich branch network.

 

Following the closure of the branch network, Woolwich became the mortgage brand of Barclays.

 

As you will see the mortgage deed I posted is dated September 2010 - only three years ago but after the closure of the Woolwich branch network and was therefore valid at the time Woolwich was nothing more than the brand name for Barclays mortgages.

 

So I am completely lost at what point you are trying to make.

 

On a separate note, what is with the capital letters all the time ? It is the internet version of shouting. Relax Is It Me? Have a cup of tea with Apple and Kegi ;-), it will do you the world of good.

Edited by bhall

 

Yes Mark, I am Bones

Link to post
Share on other sites

Can I just point something out very quickly.......whilst the deed has to be signed by the lender...of that there is no doubt....

 

You will notice this deed says....

 

Barclays BANK PLC acknowledges the receipt of all monies secured by

the within written Legal mortgage

 

 

So, where's the issue you might ask?

 

Look again at the statement.... then ask yourself.....when is it that Barclays intend to 'acknowledge receipt of all monies'??

 

Then question....if you as a Borrower are paying in 'installments'..... there will be no execution of that document until ALL those instalments amount to the full balance of the loan.....right??

 

So, therefore....they don't execute it.....they can't execute it.....because essentially ....they say they will not execute it until ALL the money is paid in full.....

 

But, as a borrower... you took out a 25 year loan......Anyone managed to pay that 'final' installment???.......

 

NO!!

 

Everyone got or about to get a suspended possession order?

 

YES!!

 

Anyone's house been re-possessed before they get round to paying the final installment?

 

YES!!

 

Is the deed then signed/executed by the Lender..... (you know the same said Deed that they tell you they do not have to execute)

 

YES!!

 

FINAL QUESTIONS.....

 

IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE WHO STILL THINKS THE LENDER DOES NOT OR DOES NOT HAVE TO EXECUTE THE DEED???

 

IS THERE ANYONE WHO REMAINS UNSURE OF WHEN THAT DEED MUST BE EXECUTED BY THE LENDER.....?

 

can those who say...'a lender does not have to execute the deed'.....please come forward and let us all know......Why are they Executing them them... (albeit quite wrongly - in their own time frame of course)

 

I've said it once, I will say it again....Lenders cannot be allowed to continue to have it both ways....we have found out....we are on to them....

 

Now where is that horse I was accused of 'flogging' again???

 

Good On YOU Is It Me......Thanks for bringing these 'deeds' to the forum ; )

 

Apple

 

 

You might find that it actually relates to the discharge of the charge.

 

Yes Mark, I am Bones

Link to post
Share on other sites

For the record some times the caps keys locks on, sorry about that I have posted about it before.

I have today spent the day going over my father in laws accounts boy there's a task

The accounts he had were with BARCLAYS so I took the deed with me and they stated its not one of there's and all their deeds are counter signed and sent off by the P A .

I ASKED YOU TO POST UP any OF THE HIGH STREET LENDERS DEEDS you did not do it only put up one from a rubbish site mis typed and out of line.

 

For the life of me and as I have state before why Ben why?

This is peoples live's here not a game.

You have been well and tu rely rumbled now.

Link to post
Share on other sites

You might find that it actually relates to the discharge of the charge.

 

We know that Ben......

 

Answer this question.....which is supposed to come first....Delivery of the Deed? or the Discharge of the Charge?

 

Did the words not say....in relation to the execution of a Deed 'signed, Sealed, Delivered'? for the presumption of 'Delivery' to be in evidence?

 

Then do you not re-call opening up an entire thread telling us ALL...that a Lender does not have to Execute a Deed???

 

Then, prey tell...if they do not have to execute the deed... why are they doing so....'to discharge the charge'.....

 

Why are Lenders not just relying on the form DS1 and the form AS1 alone....those are the forms prescribed to Discharge a charge - are they not??

 

Remember... you are the one that says they do not have to execute the Deed ..... Can you now advise, why you would confuse the forms prescribed for the 'discharge of a charge' with the formalities of a Deed please..... ??

 

Apple

[COLOR="red"][B][CENTER]"Errors do not cease to be errors simply because they’re ratified into law.” [/CENTER][/B][/COLOR][B][CENTER] E.A. Bucchianeri[/CENTER][/B]

Link to post
Share on other sites

Been a long day, I will take a gander at Lamb tomorrow, look forward to reading all the interpretations that will come ;-)

 

I look forward to debating the case with you....

 

First observation stands out like a sore thumb......Preston County Court - on appeal from the Burnley County Court......Not binding on the First Tier Tribunal at all...there decisions have the same effect of any High Court......

 

Can't see that any Lender looking to rely on a District Judge or a Circuit Judges decision is going to help any Lender......

 

Mrs Lamb's application should have picked up on the findings in this thread and she should have framed her argument completely differently....section 2 does not apply to Deeds.....if she submitted the same argument....she will get the same response wherever she goes....imo

 

Just my 'first' observation.....

 

There will be plenty more......to reinforce that one... I can assure you... ; )

 

 

Apple

[COLOR="red"][B][CENTER]"Errors do not cease to be errors simply because they’re ratified into law.” [/CENTER][/B][/COLOR][B][CENTER] E.A. Bucchianeri[/CENTER][/B]

Link to post
Share on other sites

did you hear ben he asked for the DEED....

 

 

oh and ben i never said i didn't like you don't make assumptions or assume i don't or i did because that will make you no better than mr lowe mr LOWE DOWN.

 

oh yeah i need to add to this further how can you say that anyway i don't even know you personally?

 

pj

Edited by p.j

e-petition is live please sign it.. unlawful repossessions..!!!

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/56915

Link to post
Share on other sites

style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 3710 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...