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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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So they DO have evidence, despite them telling your solicitor (twice?) that they didn't? They need pulling up on that. As far as I know, the DWP have no obligation to reveal the full extent of their evidence to solicitors (it just so happens that solicitors are often successful in extracting the info), but to lie is a different kettle of fish.

 

Did your son give anything away during IUC? Did he admit anything, or agree with any of their allegations? When was the video taken? How many days was he filmed for, and over what period of time? Was he filmed at different times of day, or just coming and going to work? Did the DWP mention any other 'evidence' that provides a timescale for this 'fraud'?

 

Sorry for the barrage of questions, but all are relevant.

 

If your son kept schtum, if the video was shot in the recent past, and if that's all they've got, it will be difficult for the decision maker (who will look at his DLA award in the near future) to revise his award any further back than the first day filming took place, in the absence of any other hard evidence. This is good-ish news, in that any overpayment that arises could be substantially reduced from what the DWP wants. (I must point out, though, that the presence of other evidence - for example, statements from his employers stating that your son is fine and dandy - can push the date they're looking at backwards)

 

If this video is all they have, you need to get in letter-writing mode. Write to them stating that their evidence is weak, and that you demand that they take the matter to the decison maker as quickly as possible. Mention the stress and strain this is having on your son. Point out that being disabled doesn't equate to being a 'sicknote' employee. Get the attention of your MP, GP, charities, etc., and point out to the DWP that you have consulted other such people in support of the case. However, you need to be very careful of what you say in your correspondence - do not make any admissions whatsoever.

 

Address your concerns to the manager of the person(s) who conducted the IUC, and state that you would like your comments to be forwarded to the DM. Request in advance that the DM backs up any decision with a full written statement of reasons (basically, put the wind up the DM, and make it known in advance that you'll fight their decision to the hilt, if it's not made on proper grounds).

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He did not admit to anything as there is nothing to admit to, and there was two video clips both taken of him getting out the car at work and walking into the office which as I say they said themselves is 10metres (well within that allowed for DLA) The videos were both taken in march in the same week (sorry don`t know which week). We ahve contacted the MP today and the gp called earlier and is ringing back tomorrow he has advised that my son goes on the sick. My son is contacting the union tomorrow to see if they can be of any help also.

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some kind person who works with him has said he walks from his car to the office door without pain and they even provided a short video recording of him walking the 10metres.

 

Who took the video?

His work colleague or the investigator/s?

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Two video clips isn't much. Just two clips in total? Or a mish-mash of seperate clips put into two files to show to you? If it's two clips in total, i.e. just two incidences of 'walking', then tell them to go forth and multiply. Two clips is nowt! Anything else...photos, statements, etc? As jabba jones says, WHO took them?

 

And do you mean March 2012? If so, they've jumped onto this 'fraud' pretty quickly!! A premature IUC for weak reasons, methinks.

 

ETA: I see you say a work colleague took the vids. Pah. Get this in your correspondence. I could shoot amateur video of someone commiting murder, but it doesn't necessarily mean it'd be admissable in court. The DWP's surveillance, however, is conducted with strictly-controlled equipment that is supposed to be tamper-proof, hence why a video from the DWP would hold more weight than that of a work colleague who (presumably) isn't trained in the art of official surveillance.

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Not much of a colleague is he, what an utter b*****d, I'm a really placid person normally, but if someone did that to my son I would at his workplace, ripping someones head off. I am so angry for you. I do hope your son finds out who did it. I have a saying, what goes around, comes around, and the person that did this will get his.

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A work colleague took the video.

 

I'm not sure it can be used then.

 

It needs checking but there are huge questions regarding CHIS's http://www.yourrights.org.uk/yourrights/privacy/surveillance-and-undercover-human-intelligence-sources/covert-human-intelligence-sources-chis.html

Which FIS investigators are not allowed to use.

 

& RIPA's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_of_Investigatory_Powers_Act_2000. which covers surveillance & CHIS.

 

These are both very important & if the rules have not been followed there would be major trouble.

 

Have a word with the solicitor.

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Yes two short video clips and from march 2012, and yes it was from a work colleague, so I do hope the case is so weak it will get them nowhere. Now I feel a bit calmer and my son has calmed down when I look at it written here they dont have a lot to go with so they are going to have to try a lot harder.

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I'm not sure it can be used then.

 

It needs checking but there are huge questions regarding CHIS's http://www.yourrights.org.uk/yourrights/privacy/surveillance-and-undercover-human-intelligence-sources/covert-human-intelligence-sources-chis.html

Which FIS investigators are not allowed to use.

 

& RIPA's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_of_Investigatory_Powers_Act_2000. which covers surveillance & CHIS.

 

These are both very important & if the rules have not been followed there would be major trouble.

 

Have a word with the solicitor.

 

In your experience, jabba, and just based on what's written my charliesgranny on this thread, do you (like me) suspect that this should have been a case for compliance, rather an a full-on IUC jobby??

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Not much of a colleague is he, what an utter b*****d, I'm a really placid person normally, but if someone did that to my son I would at his workplace, ripping someones head off. I am so angry for you. I do hope your son finds out who did it. I have a saying, what goes around, comes around, and the person that did this will get his.

 

This is exactly how I have been feeling since the interview, I have just calmed down in the last half hour or so and usually nothing can ryall me.

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Sorry but to be honest the time scale doesn't make any sense. To conduct a proper DLA IUC they must have sight of the original claim form where they can see what difficulties have been declared.

 

IF, and its a very big IF, they have relied on taped evidence sent in by a work colleague (and I dont believe that any investigator would/or could do this) there is absolutely no way that they would have received an allegation in March and they would be in a position to IUC in April.

 

That would lead me to believe that it is video evidence taken by the investigators and unless they really do not know how to do their job, they would not have called him in for interview with just 2 days of filming the same journey and with absolutely no other evidence. Unless, the claim form says things such as he cannot walk any distance at all/cannot go out alone. If the evidence they found wasn't obviously at odds with the claim form his DLA claim should have been sent off for a reassessment.

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Well we only know what they told him today which was they received the info in march and as we have no other way of knowing we can only go by this. Having said that they originally said they had no evidence when they had the clips so who knows but, my concern is my son.

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In your experience, jabba, and just based on what's written my charliesgranny on this thread, do you (like me) suspect that this should have been a case for compliance, rather an a full-on IUC jobby??

 

Compliance do not deal with DLA only cases so it has to be FIS, but investigations take months.

 

What KK3852 has pointed out is correct. It can take over a month just to get the DLA claim docs & until you get them its very hard to start the investigation as you don't know what the subject has said about their condition. So the time scales mentioned above do not make sense.

 

On this case where you've got someone coming & going to work on a regular basis, as long as there are suitable locations to set up, surveillance should have been fairly routine & using the equipment I had available to me I'd expect to have more than 2 short videos & from more than 1 location.

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So, assuming that the contents of this thread are correct, we have an FIS investigation using evidence that a) may not be admissible under the law because it is from a third party, b) contains footage that probably doesn't prove anything because of the duration of time the footage lasts for, and c) is being used prematurely as it's probable/possible that the original claim forms haven't been scrutinized (did they not show the original claims form at the start of the interview?) On top of this you have the investigators allegedly lying to the solicitor by saying that they don't have any evidence, when they were sitting on this third-party footage? If your solicitor is any good, they should be having a field day with this. I hope this gets sorted, pronto.

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Well just a quick update, my son has recieved a letter today to say his DLA has been suspended until they sort all this out. I suspect now after the bank holiday we will hear from motability and they will take the car away so, he will really struggle now for work. It is a case of guilty until proven innocent.

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Sorry to hear that. It might be worth speaking to Motability on Tuesday about this.

 

I am going to ring them first thing tuesday and see what they say but, I think it will be sooner rather than later when they take the car.

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Hi there, they took the car and it went straight to auction so he can`t get it back. He still has not heard from the dwp yet and its 10 weeks now, they did say it would be 3-4 months. We have had to get into debt to get him a car to get to work. I hope you are coping with your situation better than my son is he has lost 2 stone in weight and the gp is extremely worried.

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