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    • Thank you fkofilee First question: what do I do if Monzo close my account? I need an account but no one will touch me with this marker against me. Is there anywhere/any other option that I have if Monzo close my account? MCB is My Community Bank?  Yes What Category of Marker do you have? This is what it says on the Cifas SAR: Application date: 07 December 2023 Date recorded: 09 April 2024 Expiry date: 09 April 2030 Cifas Case Identifier: 15435315 Product relating to the application, proposal, account or facility: Personal Loan – Unsecured Facility: Granted Case type: Misuse of facility Reason(s) for filing: Evasion of payment Financial Loss Value of Loss: £5000.00 When did you raise the complaint? Last night via email Do you have Correspondence / Audit Trails of communications showing that you were in severe financial strain due to an event AFTER you took the loan? I can prove that I had to buy a new washing machine, I have my pay slips showing the emergency tax code and a letter from the tax office after I had spoken with them to get it corrected and of course I can get a copy of my vet bill. And all of this was in the first 2-3 months of 2024.  I panicked. Stupid I know and as you say, I have learned the hard way and I am not in any way denying anything that I have done wrong, but it just feels a bit unfair.  It is what it is I guess and if I have to have it on me forever then so be it. I am just so worried about the bank situation 😕    
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    • Hi @LilMissM   I guess you could call me our resident CIFAS Specialist - Personally have been through all of what you have and now have come out the other side when my marker fell off in May 2023. For a start Monzo may close your account but as I had a Marker for App Fraud (Vodafone ended up making a whole hoohah of the account I had with them) - I was with them and still am from Oct 2017 till today. And not once did they close my account. I actually spoke to a couple of current account providers at the time that I had accounts with - Nationwide and Barclays - Told them what was going on and provided all the evidence to them. They advised they may do so but it was highly unlikely now that they understood why it happened and what I was doing to fight it.    Anyway - On to your marker. MCB is My Community Bank?  I can say to you that on experience that On Monday you can be on top of the world then on Tuesday you whole life changes in a flash of an eye. Suddenly you cant pay your bills, Work isnt feasible and you are left with no other choice but to scrape by.  If this has happened to you, then join the club.  - Why is this important? Well Financial institutions get one whiff of potential fraud and you are guilty without a chance to respond. You found out the hard way   If it sounds like I'm waffling, I'm not - Its important to your issue. They have deemed you guilty by the fact that no payments have been made and potentially entered into a loan agreement knowing looking not to pay (Although thats how it may appear, there will always be factors against that)    First off - Questions - What Category of Marker do you have? If unsure, check my signature for a Credit File Guide which will tell you all you need to know about what Categories apply.  - When did you raise the complaint? They will have 8 weeks to respond. More on this in a mo.  - Do you have Correspondence / Audit Trails of communications showing that you were in severe financial strain due to an event AFTER you took the loan?   My next suggestions, Send this complaint to the CEOs office - CEOEMAIL.COM Let them make the decision as per the Complaint Procedure. Then if they refuse to remove the marker. take it to the FOS who can force the company to remove it if found in favour.  Some companies do need a slap or 2 once in a while to bring them down a peg. You could be looking at this right now.   
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I think Cap Quest are a company owned and run by a firm of solicitors, Keppe Shaw & Co.

 

They are insidious.

 

My direct debit bounced for a monthly repayment and I received a letter a day or two later stating that my repayment agreement was cancelled and that the full sum was due. Well, I can't repay the full sum and have an arrangement whereby the full sum inclusive of interest will be repaid in 5 and a half years' time. In fact, I telephoned them the second I knew the DD had bounced and tried to reinstate it at the old, agreed sum and they refused point blank.

 

I had to 'phone them and renegotiate the entire debt and they bullied me into paying 50% more each month.

 

The fact that I have several other creditors was irrelevant to them.

 

They also renegotiate (upwards my repayment plan) every 6 months, on threat of cancelling the arrangement. The staff who man their 'phones are specially trained hard cases who will not compromise.

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Have you checked whether there is an agreement for this debt. Who was the original creditor? Did you receive a Default Notice before they asked for the full balance? Did they ask for the full balance in wrtitng? Did you receive a Notice of Assignement from the original creditor stating it had been assigned to CQ? How do you know they have any lawful right to collect it just because they asked for payment? If there is no agreement, if the agreement is unenforceable, if the account has been unlawfully rescinded ie full balance asked for (in writing) without prior issue of a DN or if the DN is unlawful, then CQ hasn't got any right to ask for a penny. STOP speaking to them on the phone. They will just bully you and put pressure on you to pay more than you can afford. If they call, hang up. Everything in writing so you have a paper trail.

 

Start off with A CCA request:

 

CCA request letter.

 

Enclose a £1 postal order and they have 12 (+2) days to reply. Send by Recorded Delivery so you have proof of receipt. Print, don't sign, your name. If they don't reply in that time there is an Account in Dispute letter you can send and you can stop paying them until they reply to your request. Whatever they send you can post it on here so we can check ot for enforceability. In the meantime you can let us know if yu received the DN.

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Have you checked whether there is an agreement for this debt. Who was the original creditor? Did you receive a Default Notice before they asked for the full balance? Did they ask for the full balance in wrtitng? Did you receive a Notice of Assignement from the original creditor stating it had been assigned to CQ?quote]

 

I had an Egg card taken out about 2003 or thereabouts and defaulted owing £9K. The default happened automatically when CCCS became involved. CapQuest became involved in 2005 at about that juncture. I cannot recall now what was sent but I got one hell of a lot of post, demands and 'phone calls at the time (honestly, I seriously thought standing on the train track it was so horrible). Of course, there were a load more debts but Cap quest were and are the worst and most unreasonable of the lot.

 

Presumably they are obliged to keep a record of everything sent to me and I can request that using your precedent letter? E.g. proof of an agreement for the debt, notice of assignment etc.

 

But will contacting them trigger off one of their "automatic reviews" of my repayment plan? Every contact I have with them seems to do this.

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If you want all the info on the debt, send an SAR to EGG, not CQ, who won't have all the info. If it is from 2005, the agreement is probably unenforceable and you can put the account in dispute. CQ have no power over you whatsoever so don't worry about them - you are in charge of this. You decide whether you will pay and what you pay - not them. Only a court of law has any power to decide about payment. Get a copy of the agreement, put it into dipsute and tell CQ to Foxtrot Oscar.

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Standing order: will be actioned initially they refused to give me their bank account details and said I had to pay by direct debit).

 

Account in Dispute: when you say the agreement is unenforceable, what do you mean? I will always owe Egg the outstanding balance and interest, so is it the agreement to pay CQ/Egg the current monthly instalments?

 

In other words, do I cancel the standing order and kick off the dispute process? Then negotiate a more reasonable rate of repayment? Anything I can do about the interest?

 

Also, what do do you mean about "forget about" CapQuest? If they are the agents used by Egg to collect the debt then presumably I have to negotiate with them?

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Mozz, you should be dictating to them how much to pay not the other way around. Great support and advice on this board from everyone they will help you through this.

I would CCA CQ and SAR Egg but dont hold me to that. I'm new here and I'm sure someone wo knows more can advise. When you get the CCA back post it up like I did with mine and they can see if it is an enforceable agreement or not.

 

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Cool, I'll give it a shot. It's gonna be great giving CrapQuest a hard time for a change.

Will respond back in due course.

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Hey Mozz1,

 

Just to let you know I've recently had the same problems with Capquest. They do try and bully you but stick your guns. I managed to get them down from insisting on payment in full or court to £20 per month but the account is on hold at the moment pending a CCA request anyway!

 

As others have advised, do everything in writing and don't let it get you down too much - good luck!!

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I imagine C-r-apquest have bought this debt. That's why a SAR to Egg is an excellent idea. I would advise also a CCA request to C-r-apquest - don't stop paying until they miss the 12+2 days deadline - which they will - until we're sure of the legal situation regarding your situation.

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I imagine C-r-apquest have bought this debt. That's why a SAR to Egg is an excellent idea. I would advise also a CCA request to C-r-apquest - don't stop paying until they miss the 12+2 days deadline - which they will - until we're sure of the legal situation regarding your situation.

 

solid advice my friend - cheers.

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