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    • Hi Just to be clear a Notice to Quit is only the very start of the Housing Association going down the Eviction route there is a long process to go. Also to be clear if you leave at the Notice to Quit date only and go to the Council claiming you are Homeless they will more than likely class you as Intentionally Homeless therefore you have no right to be given temporary housing by the Council. The only way that works is when the Court has Granted a Possession Order then you can approach the Council as Homeless with the Court Order. As for the Housing Association issuing the Notice to Quit because there investigation has proved it's not your main residence but you have witness statement to prove otherwise. From now on with the Housing Association you need to keep a very good paper trail and ensure to get free proof of posting from the post office with anything you send to them. You now need to make a Formal Complaint to the Housing Association and please amend the following to suit your needs:   Dear Sir/Madam FORMAL COMPLAINT Reference: Notice to Quit Letter Dated XX/XX/2024, Hand Delivered on XX/XX/2024 I note in your letter that you stated that the Housing Association has carried out an investigation into myself and came to the conclusion that I am not using this property as my main residence and have evidence of this and have therefore issued a 'Notice to Quit' by XX/XX/2024. I find the above actions absolutely disgraceful action by the Housing Association. 1. Why have I never been informed nor asked about this matter by my Housing Officer. 2. Why have I never been given the opportunity to defend myself before the Housing Association out of the blue Hand Delivered a Notice to Quit Letter. 3. I have evidence and witnesses/statements that prove this is my Main Residence and more than willing provide this to both the Housing Association and the Court. I now require the following: 1. Copy of your Complaints Policy (not the leaflet) 2. Copy of your Customer Care Charter (not the leaflet) 3. Copies of your Investigation into this not being my main residence.    As well as the above you need to send the Housing Association urgently a Subject Access Request (SAR) requesting 'ALL DATA' that simple phrase covers whatever format they hold that in whether it be letters, email, recorded calls etc. The Housing Association then has 30 calendar days to respond but that time limit only starts once they acknowledge your SAR Request. If they fail to respond within that time limit its then off with a complaint to the Information Commissioners Office (ICO).     
    • Hi Sorry for the delay in getting back to you The email excuse and I do say excuse to add to your account and if court decide LL can't recoup costs will be removed is a joke. So I would Ask them: Ask them to provide you with the exact terms within your Tenancy Agreement that allows them to add these Court Fees to your Account before it has been decided in Court by a Judge. Until the above is answered you require these Court Fees to be removed from your Account (Note: I will all be down to your Tenancy Agreement so have a good look through it to see what if any fees they can add to your account in these circumstances)
    • Thank you for your responses. As requested, some more detail. Please forgive, I'm writing this on my phone which always makes for less than perfect grammar. My Dad tries but English not his 1st language, i'm born and bred in England, a qualified accountant and i often help him with his admin. On this occasion I helped my dad put in his renewal driving licence application around 6 weeks before expiry and with it the disclosure of his sleep apnoea. Once the licence expired I told him to get in touch with his GP, because the DVLA were offering only radio silence at that time (excuses of backlogs When I called to chase up). The GP charged £30 for an opinion letter on his ability to drive based on his medical history- at the time I didn't take a copy of the letter, but I am hoping this will be key evidence that we can rely on as to why s88 applies because in the GP opinion they saw no reason he couldn't drive i need to see the letter again as im going only on memory- we forwarded the letter in a chase up / complaint to the DVLA.  In December, everything went quiet RE the sleep apnoea (i presume his GP had given assurance) but the DVLA noticed there had been a 2nd medical issue in the past, when my father suffered a one off mini stroke 3 years prior. That condition had long been resolved via an operation (on his brain of all places, it was a scary time, but he came through unscathed) and he's never had an issue since. We were able to respond to that query very promptly (within the 14 days) and the next communication was the licence being granted 2 months later. DVLA have been very slow in responding every step of the way.  I realise by not disclosing the mini stroke at the time, and again on renewal (had I known I'd have encouraged it) he was potentially committing an offence, however that is not relevant to the current charge being levied, which is that he was unable to rely on s88 because of a current medical issue (not one that had been resolved). I could be wrong, I'm not a legal expert! The letter is a summons I believe because its a speeding offence (59 in a temp roadworks 50 limit on the A1, ironically whist driving up to visit me). We pleaded guilty to the speeding but not guilty to the s87.  DVLA always confirmed to me on the phone that the licence had not been revoked and that he "May" be able to continue to drive. They also confirmed in writing, but the letter explains the DVLA offer no opinion on the matter and that its up to the driver to seek legal advice. I'll take the advice to contact DVLA medical group. I'm going to contact the GP to make sure they received the SAR request for data, and make it clear we need to see a copy of the opinion letter. In terms of whether to continue to fight this, or to continue with the defence, do we have any idea of the potential consequences of either option? Thanks all
    • stopping payments until a DN arrives does not equal automatic sale to a DCA...if you resume payments after the DN.  
    • Sleep apnoea: used to require the condition  to be “completely” controlled Sometime before June 2013 DVLA changed it to "adequately" controlled. I have to disagree with MitM regarding the effect of informing DVLA and S.88 A diagnosis of sleep apnoea doesn't mean a licence wont be granted, and, indeed, here it was. If the father sought medical advice (did he?) : this is precisely where S.88 applies https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/64edcf3a13ae1500116e2f5d/inf1886-can-i-drive-while-my-application-is-with-dvla.pdf p.4 for “new medical condition” It is shakier ground if the opinion of a healthcare professional wasn’t sought. in that case it is on the driver to state they believed they met the medical standard to drive. However, the fact the licence was then later granted can be used to be persuasive that the driver’s belief they met the standard was correct. What was the other condition? And, just to confirm, at no point did DVLA say the licence was revoked / application refused? I’d be asking DVLA Drivers’ Medical Group why they believe S.88 doesn’t apply. S.88 only applies for the UK, incidentally. If your licence has expired and you meet the conditions for S.88 you can drive in the U.K., but not outside the U.K. 
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If you are unable to obtain Legal Aid, one can only presume that you are a person of means;

either through property/assets or,

income.

 

Cheaper to pay for the professional advice, rather than to lose your home and have costs awarded against you!

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i concur with AC and Delfi

 

I represented D in an action and successfully defended it, leaving the debt unrecoverable

 

This is extremely serious, there are people in your area of Wales that can assist, i know that for certain, it costs nothing to enquire.

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i tried google a Debt specialists solicitor but keep geting debt collection. any advice please

there in lies the problem

 

The problem is that you dont want debt specialists solicitors, they are the type linked normally with CMC's , what you need is a law firm who can help

 

you need to rethink the search a tad, i cant post names on here otherwise i would, but there are firms out there that can assist

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blackbear

 

I can only reiterate the advice that has been given before. You MUST get proper legal advice locally, if only to persude the court to reassess your payments to Arrow instead of enforcing the charging order.

 

All the points you have made MAY have been enough to make a strong defence in 2008 but time has moved on. You must concentrate on avoiding the order for sale.

Arrow Global/MBNA - Discontinued and paid costs

HFO/Morgan Stanley (Barclays) - Discontinued and paid costs

HSBC - Discontinued and paid costs

Nationwide - Ran for cover of stay pending OFT case 3 yrs ago

RBS/Mint - Nothing for 4 yrs after S78 request

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Hello Blackbear101!

 

Thanks for the PM, sorry for slow response.

 

You are getting some great advice here already. The underlying issue is weak from Arrow's point of view, but the beggars have taken this way too far to defend in the usual way.

 

As others have said, you must get some decent Legal representation ASAP, because it is vital to see them off on the sale of your home issue first. Once that has been nailed, then your representative can then get to work untangling the mess that has got you to that critical stage.

 

The points you have listed are all strong, but you must win the next crucial Battle in May, to stand a chance of winning the War.

 

You need someone who is an expert in Consumer Credit issues, so it's VIP that you avoid the run of the mill Solicitors who probably won't have a clue how to handle this (although they won't give that impression, most will try to sound like they do, which makes finding a good one hard). As PT2537 has said, there are Direct Access Barristers to whom you can go to directly, i.e. without needing to instruct a Solicitor first.

 

There are pros and cons to going either way. Obviously, if you instruct a Solicitor who in turn instructs, on your behalf, a Barrister (to represent you in Court on the day), then the costs are likely to be more than if you went straight to a Direct Access Barrister.

 

The main advantage of instructing a Solicitor first, is a competent one will handle a lot of the background issues in discussion with you first, so that when a Barrister is approached, the Solicitor will present the Barrister with a clear brief to allow them to handle the matter efficiently.

 

Thus, if you go for a Direct Access Barrister, you need to allow for the fact that you must work hard to pull all the issues together yourself, because the Barrister won't want to do the Spade Work for you. IOW, you need to do most of the background admin work that a Solicitor would normally do for you.

 

But with help from the people here, there's no reason why you cannot hack that, and go for a Direct Access Barrister.

 

There are Firms of Solicitors who may take this on, on a No Win/No Fee basis. Some are very good, but you need to act fast to secure one in the limited time you have available.

 

Please understand that with the right representation, this can be turned around. But, without it, you are likely to be on a hiding to nothing in May.

 

So, whatever it takes, get some decent help. I know you will not regret it if you do. I do stress decent help, so the key now is to find that help and make sure you avoid getting snarled up by duffer Solicitors who know only how to charge. The help you need must come from people expert in Consumer Credit issues.

 

Best of luck with it.

 

Cheers,

BRW

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The points you have listed are all strong, but you must win the next crucial Battle in May, to stand a chance of winning the War.

 

 

That single line sums the whole situation up perfectly.

 

If you need a recommendation for a legal rep PM me ;)

 

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thanks but pfofessional help comes with a price which i cannot afford. even with the loss of my home £145 per hour is way to much

 

looking for a no win no fee specialist. wrexham area.

 

blackbear,

 

You need to find that money to get the legal help, I don't mean this in a flippant way, but a few hundred pounds against the loss of your home, think about it, is there a friend who can possibly lend you some money?

 

You know that you have got some incredible strong points to this, but you will not be able to contend on your own, you need that representation.

 

I hope you are able to get some help, what about legal aid/public funding, if those mp's can get it, why can't you, no need for anyone to answer that.

 

Well I feel for you and I do hope that someone in your area will help.

 

Take good care.

 

Kind Regards

 

The Mould

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I've been asked through PM to take a look at this thread and give whatever advice I can.

 

Really, this has gone beyond the stage where well-meaning amateurs of limited knowledge, myself included, can help to any meaningful degree.

 

Some of the most knowledgeable posters on the entire site have posted to this thread, and the advice they have given is consistent. I notice a poster above me has invited you to PM him if you need a recommendation. I would take him up on that offer.

 

Focus ALL of your attention on the hearing in May, and get the best professional help you possibly can.

 

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also on post 12 blackbear stated that the debt will be attached to the house, and money repaid as and when they come to sell the house

 

does that mean that that won't be ejected from their house, or could arrow decide to force them to sell to collect their money earlier

 

seems to me that if this order is placed upon the house, then it can only cone into effect of paying once YOU decide to sell the property

 

yes or no

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Like others I hope this guy is ok, feel for him! I hope he raised the cash for some help... Hope he lets us know how hes going...

Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle. Please do not PM me I do not use the PM service. Please use a link on my thread for any help or to talk.

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thanks boddydog. the debt is attached to the house by the way of a final charge order. the dca said they cant wait for there money now going for a order for sale. in court may. cant get no legal help. only shelter tried Direct Access Barrister but no one replies, also they are all in london. one chester solicitor said do i own the money or not, well the answer is yes, then just pay it. cab said the same. i am not as worried now as shelter is on the case. he did a income and outcome budget sheet, trying to get a instalment order/ payment plan set up.but we both notice somthing that may get the ccj set aside or stop the order for sale

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can some one help

original creditor did not send me a default notice. Service of a default notice is a statutory requirement as laid out in sections 87,88 and 89 Consumer Credit Act 1974. Section 87 makes it clear that a default notice must be served before a creditor can seek to terminate the agreement or demand repayment of sums due to a breach of the agreement.the original creditor has unlawful rescission and terminated my account and sold it on to a dca. i have a default on my credit file. but no letters. i have sar the original creditor, just waiting for there reply. i know they have none of the above because i have other letters off them. the dates of my letters give no window for a default letter, if one was ever served. i have ask the dca to send me the default ,termination,assigment letter.

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Please read this link about charging orders and orders for sale from National Debtline.

 

National Debtline England & Wales | Debt Advice | Factsheet 15 Charging Orders In The County Court

 

I would also suggest that you give them a ring and see what advice they can offer.

 

I hope this helps.

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Just a note when is your date for the hearing for "forced sale"? Do you have your position set out for that hearing? Do you know what you are going to do?

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not yet, begining of may. i cant do anything positive with out seeing the sar off the original creditor. i think i have enough info here, but the sar will back my defence. just hope the original creditors dont fabricate the info

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When did you send your SAR?

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That's what I was going to suggest if necessary.

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