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I hope you guys sort this out. I think if you all stick together and don't give in, you may just break through.

 

From the research I have done, CT are no where near giving you the same deal as Advent.

 

I came across this link earlier. Its definately worth a read. I have typed a great paragraph from this.

 

A Financial Time Bomb is Ticking for Barclays Partner Finance.

 

BPF claimed they were offering students the opportunity to gain training from Computeach giving the following reason. Jon Orritt from BPF said that the company was glad it could help these thousands of students continue with their education, despite the problems thrown up by the recession. He continued: "We chose Computeach because their services are very closely aligned with Advent's and they are recognised as the industry's market leader.”

 

To Mr. Oritt we say; if Computeach is closely aligned with Advent, how long will they be in business?

 

Have a think about the key points I think might help your cause.

 

1. BPF had no intention of ensuring Advent students got similar or better IT training as a deal was done with Computeach from the very start, why? Because they are the cheap option and also guess what the Advent Directors were from Computeach but left because of the way Computeach did things and their poor reputation to set up Advent, guess what happened next? Can you guys find out if there was any other TP in negotiations??

 

2. So Advent have now gone bust and the Directors have sent them back to Computeach who have been selling courses for £1,188 against Advents £5,950, do BPF really believe they have sent them for similar or better training or might it be about them not paying out and getting their money back at the cost of the quality of training to poor Ex Advent Students. its like buying a Rover car, they go bust, so you get a Robin Reliant as a replacement (no disrespect to Robin Reliants)

 

3. Computeach last year sacked most of their staff to save on costs and they are known to offer limited support and make it difficult for students to obtain qualifications because it saves on costs and support. Advents students are getting a raw deal but I guess that does not bother BPF or Computeach............money grabbing b'stds.

 

Keep at it guys, Barclays have done you over!!!! :mad:

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I would also like this template letter. am in the same boat , but, with access to trade. is there anyone in the kent/maidstone area. maybe we could share the legal fees? I canot see how a bank can insist on this.are they going to pay another 6k to another company? and hope we carry on paying. how much did the course cost them? I HAVE NO INTENTION. of letting them get away with this. am also very stresssed

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Anything I've posted has been with the intention of being supportive to the situation we all find ourself in. It's a worrying time and you are entitled to your opinion. So am I

 

Appreciated - however, knocking the MCSE certification that is difficult to achieve and people here are striving so hard to get is not supportive of the situation.

 

I know that your intentions are good Bluedo, and I can tell that you're worried about the situation. So am I - I'm getting pressure from work, my girlfriend is pregnant and all in all the 6450 debt with Barclays is just a chunk of my overall debt issue.

 

We can get through all of this and get a satisfying conclusion for all - apart from BPF and Computeach of course.

 

:-)

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The email also says that BPF have kinldy given us a 3 month extention on our contract, what the hell does that mean, with advent is was meant to take as long as it takes.

I sent CT an email yesterday with lots of questions and they have not replied, I have only received yet another generic letter about being a student with them.

I agree, DO NOT click on any of the links in the email

 

Keep fighting everyone

 

Also keep an eye on your banking to make sure they have not set up payments again, as I will keep on deleting them

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Appreciated - however, knocking the MCSE certification that is difficult to achieve and people here are striving so hard to get is not supportive of the situation.

 

I know that your intentions are good Bluedo, and I can tell that you're worried about the situation. So am I - I'm getting pressure from work, my girlfriend is pregnant and all in all the 6450 debt with Barclays is just a chunk of my overall debt issue.

 

We can get through all of this and get a satisfying conclusion for all - apart from BPF and Computeach of course.

 

:-)

 

Wizard

I have no intention of knocking MCSE or belittling it to any IT student the intention was to use the argument against BPF but if it appeared like that to you then it may have had a chance ;)

 

You had some good points and we do have valid reasons including your list of reasons as to why CT are unsuitable

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Just read the email myself, well just skimmed it really. Won't be logging in, need to find out what they offer in comparison to Advent.

 

This talk of Test Centre's, they say that you can use PearsonVUE and Prometric so does that mean you dont have to go the there own center in birmingham like some have suggested? Just seems a little silly to have to.

 

Not sure i like that fact you only get one shot at an exam too, not failed one yet, but it was only CompTIA, MCDST is harder for sure.

 

Think i'll give em a ring tomorrow after work

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Try not to worry guys, looking at the evidence from Martin and TomBL, to me its looking more and more like if this goes to court, Barclays wont stand a chance.

 

I agree there, they're digging a big hole for themselves that is going to backfire on them. Give 'em enough rope and they'll hang themselves!

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Letter I sent BPF today.....(sorry, bit wordy):!:

 

NOTICE OF COMPUTEACH AS THE NEW PROVIDER

 

Dear Ms Thompson

 

Thank you for your mass-mail letter dated 25 March 2010, offering me a new training provider in the form of Computeach and for kindly informing me that the training will be ‘of equivalent or better standard’.

Thankfully, I have undertaken my own research into Computeach and its reputation and am informing you that I will NOT be taking up your offer at any time in the future.

 

 

Computeach is not suitable for me as;

 

Their service is NOT like-for-like as it does not offer the local job placement service Advent promised me when I signed up, along with the support of a specialist recruitment team (see attachment 1). I have contacted Computeach with some questions and their answers are in italic quotes below.

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They do NOT provide the options I was to pursue in web design software under the Master CIW Designer path I’d signed up for with Advent. This included Adobe Suite 3.

 

There is a time limit of 12 months to achieve the first qualification and if a student cannot, for any reason, complete in this time they are charged more on top to continue. This was not the deal with Advent, who promised no time limit and no extra charges.

“At the end of the 12 months, if you have not completed your studies you can extend your training at that time. You do not have to subscribe for another full 12 months, you would continue on a month to month basis until you have completed it. Obviously we encourage you to maintain your studies so that you don’t pay any more than you need too.”

 

If a student fails their exam first time they have to pay Computeach a fee to re-sit. Advent guaranteed unlimited goes at the exams until you pass, with no extra charges.

“If you fail an exam, we don’t cover resits unfortunately. However, with the system we have above, that shouldn’t cause you any problems as we want you to pass first time!”

 

On top of this, Computeach have a poor reputation and have already been investigated by the Financial Ombudsman for malpractice. Dudley Trading Standards found against them in 2005 under the Community Infringements Specified UK Laws//Unfair Contract Terms 1999 for ‘retention of pre-payments on consumer cancellation, potentially enabled the supplier to retain more than a reasonable pre-estimate of loss following cancellation by the consumer, excluded liability for any representations made by the supplier in the securing of the contract, upon which the consumer may reasonably rely.’

In other words, misleading sales tactics and conning people out of money.

I understand there is currently a legal action for poor service being taken up against Computeach by a number of its own students.

 

And you really think I want to be passed off onto THIS company!!

DREAM ON!!

 

The performance of the contract with Advent is rendered impossible in light of Advent Training collapsing. There has been no student support or service since 27th of January 2010 and that makes a two month break in my studying, which is not acceptable. My contract was with Advent Computer Training, not with any other provider. I have not agreed this and I do not wish to be offered any other course provider, as I have clearly stated in my previous letters to you, which have obviously been disregarded.

 

Further evidence on Computeach’s standards

 

For your information, here’s just a selection of the comments about Computeach on the active Facebook group’Legal Action against Computeach’ and the Consumer Action Group discussion forum.

 

“I paid for a computer maintenance course. The answers to the questions set to pass the modules weren’t even in the book, when I asked for the help of a family friend who had worked in such a field for a number of years, even he struggled because the questions were so obscure and nowhere to be found in the books. It’s a complete con.”

 

“Their services are rubbish, they don’t answer your questions ... as for the materials they didn’t even bother to inform me of outdated material and so forth.”

 

“I was sent a letter stating that I had three months to finish the course or else I had to pay a further amount of money, several hundred pounds, which of course had never been mentioned before. So they pocketed my money and I certainly never got what I paid for. All my complaints to Computeach have met with either silence or platitudes.”

 

“I was once a student at Computeach.

My mate was also and we found that they held you back at stages until they had enough students to go to the residential courses. The internal mini exams was the way they did it.. you repeatedly failed until they was ready for you to go to the next stage.

So much for a self paced course.”

 

“I used to work for Computeach and you guys have got problems.

The directors of Advent used to work for CT and they set up a rival company due to the fact CT had a bad reputation. A few years down the line and they have now sent all of their students back to CT.

I thought Barclays or PKF where supposed to find you a new provider who was similar if not better. Well CT is a lot worse and you will find out why.

When I worked there, they had a policy of making sure you could not complete the course. They would make you pass an internal exam at 98% before they allowed you to take the real exam. It would take a student on average 12 months to complete the A+, where with other providers you can complete in 1 month.

If you ever get to take your Microsoft exams, you will be studying for 2003 Server exams, when other providers are offering 2008 Server exams, they are 7 years behind.”

 

 

 

Fifteen months after starting my course with Advent, all I’d had from them was one book and CD, negligible mentor support and poor course provision which I feel was mis-sold in the first place with false promises. Computeach looks like it will be much of the same and worse, contrary to your assurances!

 

But of course, that is not your concern. Barclays only interest is to keep its greedy hands on the money we’ve all paid out in good faith. By trying to force this training provider on us when the vast majority of the ex-Advent students clearly don’t want it just illustrates the arrogance of your bank and the true contempt it has for the needs and wishes of its customers. No wonder you’ve made record 11 billion profits!

By withdrawing Advent’s funding was Barclays not complicit in Advent’s demise? I’m mystified why you did not investigate Advent’s financial solidity thoroughly before offering support to this trainer in the first place. Surely that’s incompetence and mismanagement on Barclay’s behalf if nothing else. But withdrawing funds from partner training providers, so forcing them into insolvency (Red Driving School and Access2 being among them) seems to be a familiar pattern of operation with your unscrupulous bank.

 

I will discuss this issue no further with you and expect to hear from you with the offer of a full refund of £4,950 within 14 days from the date of this letter. Failing that, expect to be hearing from my legal representative in the very near future.

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I hope you guys sort this out. I think if you all stick together and don't give in, you may just break through.

 

From the research I have done, CT are no where near giving you the same deal as Advent.

 

I came across this link earlier. Its definately worth a read. I have typed a great paragraph from this.

 

A Financial Time Bomb is Ticking for Barclays Partner Finance.

 

BPF claimed they were offering students the opportunity to gain training from Computeach giving the following reason. Jon Orritt from BPF said that the company was glad it could help these thousands of students continue with their education, despite the problems thrown up by the recession. He continued: "We chose Computeach because their services are very closely aligned with Advent's and they are recognised as the industry's market leader.”

 

To Mr. Oritt we say; if Computeach is closely aligned with Advent, how long will they be in business?

 

Have a think about the key points I think might help your cause.

 

1. BPF had no intention of ensuring Advent students got similar or better IT training as a deal was done with Computeach from the very start, why? Because they are the cheap option and also guess what the Advent Directors were from Computeach but left because of the way Computeach did things and their poor reputation to set up Advent, guess what happened next? Can you guys find out if there was any other TP in negotiations??

 

2. So Advent have now gone bust and the Directors have sent them back to Computeach who have been selling courses for £1,188 against Advents £5,950, do BPF really believe they have sent them for similar or better training or might it be about them not paying out and getting their money back at the cost of the quality of training to poor Ex Advent Students. its like buying a Rover car, they go bust, so you get a Robin Reliant as a replacement (no disrespect to Robin Reliants)

 

3. Computeach last year sacked most of their staff to save on costs and they are known to offer limited support and make it difficult for students to obtain qualifications because it saves on costs and support. Advents students are getting a raw deal but I guess that does not bother BPF or Computeach............money grabbing b'stds.

 

Keep at it guys, Barclays have done you over!!!! :mad:

 

Thanks for that, TomBL - great bit of ammo!

 

For everyone asking about solicitors that have been approached, I'm waiting to hear back from 2 firms (one being A4ron's guy). Hoping for news on one representing us as a group tomorrow now....will keep you all posted as I hear back.

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Letter I sent BPF today.....(sorry, bit wordy):!:

 

NOTICE OF COMPUTEACH AS THE NEW PROVIDER

 

Dear Ms Thompson

 

Thank you for your mass-mail letter dated 25 March 2010, offering me a new training provider in the form of Computeach and for kindly informing me that the training will be ‘of equivalent or better standard’.

Thankfully, I have undertaken my own research into Computeach and its reputation and am informing you that I will NOT be taking up your offer at any time in the future.

 

 

Computeach is not suitable for me as;

 

Their service is NOT like-for-like as it does not offer the local job placement service Advent promised me when I signed up, along with the support of a specialist recruitment team (see attachment 1). I have contacted Computeach with some questions and their answers are in italic quotes below.

.

They do NOT provide the options I was to pursue in web design software under the Master CIW Designer path I’d signed up for with Advent. This included Adobe Suite 3.

 

There is a time limit of 12 months to achieve the first qualification and if a student cannot, for any reason, complete in this time they are charged more on top to continue. This was not the deal with Advent, who promised no time limit and no extra charges.

“At the end of the 12 months, if you have not completed your studies you can extend your training at that time. You do not have to subscribe for another full 12 months, you would continue on a month to month basis until you have completed it. Obviously we encourage you to maintain your studies so that you don’t pay any more than you need too.”

 

If a student fails their exam first time they have to pay Computeach a fee to re-sit. Advent guaranteed unlimited goes at the exams until you pass, with no extra charges.

“If you fail an exam, we don’t cover resits unfortunately. However, with the system we have above, that shouldn’t cause you any problems as we want you to pass first time!”

 

On top of this, Computeach have a poor reputation and have already been investigated by the Financial Ombudsman for malpractice. Dudley Trading Standards found against them in 2005 under the Community Infringements Specified UK Laws//Unfair Contract Terms 1999 for ‘retention of pre-payments on consumer cancellation, potentially enabled the supplier to retain more than a reasonable pre-estimate of loss following cancellation by the consumer, excluded liability for any representations made by the supplier in the securing of the contract, upon which the consumer may reasonably rely.’

In other words, misleading sales tactics and conning people out of money.

I understand there is currently a legal action for poor service being taken up against Computeach by a number of its own students.

 

And you really think I want to be passed off onto THIS company!!

DREAM ON!!

 

The performance of the contract with Advent is rendered impossible in light of Advent Training collapsing. There has been no student support or service since 27th of January 2010 and that makes a two month break in my studying, which is not acceptable. My contract was with Advent Computer Training, not with any other provider. I have not agreed this and I do not wish to be offered any other course provider, as I have clearly stated in my previous letters to you, which have obviously been disregarded.

 

Further evidence on Computeach’s standards

 

For your information, here’s just a selection of the comments about Computeach on the active Facebook group’Legal Action against Computeach’ and the Consumer Action Group discussion forum.

 

“I paid for a computer maintenance course. The answers to the questions set to pass the modules weren’t even in the book, when I asked for the help of a family friend who had worked in such a field for a number of years, even he struggled because the questions were so obscure and nowhere to be found in the books. It’s a complete con.”

 

“Their services are rubbish, they don’t answer your questions ... as for the materials they didn’t even bother to inform me of outdated material and so forth.”

 

“I was sent a letter stating that I had three months to finish the course or else I had to pay a further amount of money, several hundred pounds, which of course had never been mentioned before. So they pocketed my money and I certainly never got what I paid for. All my complaints to Computeach have met with either silence or platitudes.”

 

“I was once a student at Computeach.

My mate was also and we found that they held you back at stages until they had enough students to go to the residential courses. The internal mini exams was the way they did it.. you repeatedly failed until they was ready for you to go to the next stage.

So much for a self paced course.”

 

“I used to work for Computeach and you guys have got problems.

The directors of Advent used to work for CT and they set up a rival company due to the fact CT had a bad reputation. A few years down the line and they have now sent all of their students back to CT.

I thought Barclays or PKF where supposed to find you a new provider who was similar if not better. Well CT is a lot worse and you will find out why.

When I worked there, they had a policy of making sure you could not complete the course. They would make you pass an internal exam at 98% before they allowed you to take the real exam. It would take a student on average 12 months to complete the A+, where with other providers you can complete in 1 month.

If you ever get to take your Microsoft exams, you will be studying for 2003 Server exams, when other providers are offering 2008 Server exams, they are 7 years behind.”

 

 

 

Fifteen months after starting my course with Advent, all I’d had from them was one book and CD, negligible mentor support and poor course provision which I feel was mis-sold in the first place with false promises. Computeach looks like it will be much of the same and worse, contrary to your assurances!

 

But of course, that is not your concern. Barclays only interest is to keep its greedy hands on the money we’ve all paid out in good faith. By trying to force this training provider on us when the vast majority of the ex-Advent students clearly don’t want it just illustrates the arrogance of your bank and the true contempt it has for the needs and wishes of its customers. No wonder you’ve made record 11 billion profits!

By withdrawing Advent’s funding was Barclays not complicit in Advent’s demise? I’m mystified why you did not investigate Advent’s financial solidity thoroughly before offering support to this trainer in the first place. Surely that’s incompetence and mismanagement on Barclay’s behalf if nothing else. But withdrawing funds from partner training providers, so forcing them into insolvency (Red Driving School and Access2 being among them) seems to be a familiar pattern of operation with your unscrupulous bank.

 

I will discuss this issue no further with you and expect to hear from you with the offer of a full refund of £4,950 within 14 days from the date of this letter. Failing that, expect to be hearing from my legal representative in the very near future.

 

Can I ask you are asking for a refund from Barclays not just a cancellation of the agreement, is this figure you quote.. money that you have actually paid to Barclays?

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Found this little snippet. Got the email today didn't click nothing looks like a click and it's a binding contract I'm signing nothingor clicking till I see a hard copy and the very small print even then I'll not be signing nothing.

 

Jon Orritt from BPF said that the company was glad it could help these thousands of students continue with their education, despite the problems thrown up by the recession.

 

He continued: "We chose Computeach because their services are very closely aligned with Advent's and they are recognised as the industry's market leader.

 

"We are confident that our customers will receive an excellent service from now on."

 

Mr Parkinson revealed that Computeach has purchased certain assets from PKF Birmingham, the chosen administrators of the stricken firm to enable training to continue as quickly as possible.

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No, I pretended to be a new student, just to see what they offered.:cool:

 

Somebody else did that and asked how much it would cost and they were told £1200:eek: How could they justify taking £5-6000 or £11-12000 with Interest from anyone:mad:

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evening all,

 

Have been watching the thread now since the start of this whole mess and must say thanks to all people that has been digging around after info and posting it for all people to see, its been very helpful.

 

Got my BPF letter today, called Computeach just to see how they were intending to furfill my contract and continue the training, passed over my student no. to be told yes you can continue the training but alternative funding will need to be found to continue!!!

 

So on the phone to BPF, told them the convo with Computeach, lady said,

no thats not right, you have paid us the money, this being £4750.00 before interest and that they should fufill the contract??? What!!! the contracts with you!!! confused!!! Sent the info into the complaints depo at barclays partner finance and we will look into it, yeah when you can be arsed.

 

though im not aware if most of you know this but computeach are evaluating each student under the start/end dates on the advent contract, mine ending on the 4/02/2010, even so advent went bust on the 27/01/2010, so yes youve found a new provider but still breached the contract on the 27/02/2010, so if i am to decline computeach, which damn right i am, have they still actively breached the contract still or have i by declining it??? as no where in the advent contract or BPF says this has to be excepted.

 

Im stuyding the Master CIW Website designer course and was told that the course consisted of the following elements: XHTML, CSS, HTML, DREAMWEAVER, FLASH amd FIREWORKS. Is any one studying the same course under advent and does computeach offer the same in there studys for the CIW program?? if not isnt this a clear cut breach of contract by BPF and the supposed tweaking of Consumer credit act by them to supposedly HELP us?

 

Sorry if repeating previous questions have read the thread since pg 61.

 

Very interested now in a4rons solicitor, can anyone who is dealing with him post developments to see if its worthwhile to forward details onto him?? its getting to the point now as ive said to myself since the start, this is going to be settled in court.

 

fuzzbutt great letter, direct and all true. is it ok that i not carbon copy your letter but try to taylor it around my own circumstances then sent it away??

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evening all,

 

Have been watching the thread now since the start of this whole mess and must say thanks to all people that has been digging around after info and posting it for all people to see, its been very helpful.

 

Got my BPF letter today, called Computeach just to see how they were intending to furfill my contract and continue the training, passed over my student no. to be told yes you can continue the training but alternative funding will need to be found to continue!!!

 

So on the phone to BPF, told them the convo with Computeach, lady said,

no thats not right, you have paid us the money, this being £4750.00 before interest and that they should fufill the contract??? What!!! the contracts with you!!! confused!!! Sent the info into the complaints depo at barclays partner finance and we will look into it, yeah when you can be arsed.

 

though im not aware if most of you know this but computeach are evaluating each student under the start/end dates on the advent contract, mine ending on the 4/02/2010, even so advent went bust on the 27/01/2010, so yes youve found a new provider but still breached the contract on the 27/02/2010, so if i am to decline computeach, which damn right i am, have they still actively breached the contract still or have i by declining it??? as no where in the advent contract or BPF says this has to be excepted.

 

Im stuyding the Master CIW Website designer course and was told that the course consisted of the following elements: XHTML, CSS, HTML, DREAMWEAVER, FLASH amd FIREWORKS. Is any one studying the same course under advent and does computeach offer the same in there studys for the CIW program?? if not isnt this a clear cut breach of contract by BPF and the supposed tweaking of Consumer credit act by them to supposedly HELP us?

 

Sorry if repeating previous questions have read the thread since pg 61.

 

Very interested now in a4rons solicitor, can anyone who is dealing with him post developments to see if its worthwhile to forward details onto him?? its getting to the point now as ive said to myself since the start, this is going to be settled in court.

 

fuzzbutt great letter, direct and all true. is it ok that i not carbon copy your letter but try to taylor it around my own circumstances then sent it away??

 

Hi mate,

 

Have you got a copy of your Advent contract with an end date? When did you sign up? I'm sure mine had a target date of 2 years but support for 4 - but that was an informal arrangement?

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Guys,

I have had a telephone conversation with my solicitor; apparently there are 11 of us who have e-mail so we can be combined.

My solicitor has had put together a letter that is going to be sent to Barclays, which is going to cost about £200 for me, then depending what Barclays reply with, money back or resistance, depends on how we proceed!

Apparently our solicitor (for the 11 of us) is going to consult a barrister on the 9th April in regards to our case, this is for more specific information when/if we go to court!

If this went to court this would then be split 11 ways of the total cost.

Original E-mail Received today!

Following on from our conversation today I confirm that the conference with the barrister that we talked about has been provisionally booked for Friday 9 April. I will be sending you an email along the lines that we discussed, namely trying to establish a commonality of claims for people in situations similar to yours. I would anticipate that if enough people respond appropriately then we can set up a fighting fund which will hopefully reduce the overall costs and give you specific decisions from a barrister specialising in this area.

Guys, all I can suggest is that the more of us that do this the better and cheaper it will be for us all!

Hope this helps, we are defiantly taking the steps into the right direction.

Each 11 of us should all be notified accordingly by the solicitor.

I have not done anything in any way to contact computeach, as far as I am concerned this is now in the hands of a solicitor, i have been advised that if i have any pressure from Computeach or Barclays, to then contact my solicitor.

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Guys,

I have had a telephone conversation with my solicitor; apparently there are 11 of us who have e-mail so we can be combined.

My solicitor has had put together a letter that is going to be sent to Barclays, which is going to cost about £200 for me, then depending what Barclays reply with, money back or resistance, depends on how we proceed!

Apparently our solicitor (for the 11 of us) is going to consult a barrister on the 9th April in regards to our case, this is for more specific information when/if we go to court!

If this went to court this would then be split 11 ways of the total cost.

Original E-mail Received today!

Following on from our conversation today I confirm that the conference with the barrister that we talked about has been provisionally booked for Friday 9 April. I will be sending you an email along the lines that we discussed, namely trying to establish a commonality of claims for people in situations similar to yours. I would anticipate that if enough people respond appropriately then we can set up a fighting fund which will hopefully reduce the overall costs and give you specific decisions from a barrister specialising in this area.

Guys, all I can suggest is that the more of us that do this the better and cheaper it will be for us all!

Hope this helps, we are defiantly taking the steps into the right direction.

Each 11 of us should all be notified accordingly by the solicitor.

I have not done anything in any way to contact computeach, as far as I am concerned this is now in the hands of a solicitor, i have been advised that if i have any pressure from Computeach or Barclays, to then contact my solicitor.

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Thanks A4ron there's been a lot of interrest and people just waiting to hear if your solicitor can take the case so your news will be welcome tonight there's a lot of evidence stacking up against CT now.

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Hi mate,

 

Have you got a copy of your Advent contract with an end date? When did you sign up? I'm sure mine had a target date of 2 years but support for 4 - but that was an informal arrangement?

 

Hi,

 

Yeah contract start date was the 04/02/2008, end date being the 04/02/10, signed by myself on the 25/01/2008. now thinking to myself what a t**t why did i bother.

 

reply from a4rons solicitor, very good development, sounds like the ball is eventually rolling. he must believe that he has a very strong case to take this on. that gives me great confidence in him. very interested in taking up his offer to include myself with the other 11 people who already have.

 

lets try get as many people as possible to get on this aswell, a4rons how many people will this guy represent??? does he feel this is a case that can be won??

 

 

 

lets try to get the numbers up for this

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im with u in this aron, i tried emailing the solicitors but i was geting a reply back that it was not been sent for some reason, im gna print out a copy of my complaint letter that I sent to barclays and FO, 2morw and send it to your solicitor, hopefully get something out of this by using the solicitor thanks alot dude

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Somebody else did that and asked how much it would cost and they were told £1200:eek: How could they justify taking £5-6000 or £11-12000 with Interest from anyone:mad:

 

I did the same in my partners name and they called and told her it would cost about 1,300 for MCSE and the contract is 12 months they also sent her an e brochure find it reassuring the the FOS have already made BPF refund people keep fighting the good fight we will win. im just going to draft my letter to email the FOS adjudicator now.

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Hi guys,

 

received the email today asking me to logging in with computeach....i dont think so! just want to cancel all association with bpf. do i nee to reply to this email or just ignore it and keep it for reference?

 

Wasabi

I'll be ignoring it for the moment looks like if you answer you're committing yourself and I don't want to be tied into them. In fact thinking about it that's a real fly way to get people to sign up with them some people may do that and then can you change your mind.?:confused:

Off to court :-)

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