Advent Computer Training (Barclays Partner Finance)Info and discussion thread

[glodwick]

I have spoken to Barclays 2day and the lady I was speakin to claim Barclays have found 2 potential suppliers and are making a choice on which one from the 2 to have, and the students will be notified by letter !! ARGHH!!! want my money back instead ! but this new provider can be disputed over with valid reason to why you dont want to accept it e.g. the location of the workshops are to far

[Bluedo]

Hi folks. I stumbled upon this video whilst browsing for ways to strengthen the case against BPF. Not much new really, but may prove interesting to some.

 

Advice for victims of collapsed training schemes - Investigations

 

There's a link to a short video mentioned at the bottom of the page. In fact, here is the link directly to it-

 

Barclays Partner Finance Refunds Section 75 on Vimeo

 

See what you think. Apologies if you've all seen it already- it's been a few days since i last checked back a few pages.

 

 

Thanks Get Lucky the BPF video was very helpful thanks for that

[chemical bomber]

Hey guys,

 

Sorry, no reply to my inquiry to Hausfeld. (Don't know if it was the same for you Bluedo?)

 

The video link giving advice did put me a little more at ease...but not so much that i'll roll over and give up!!

 

WE CAN DO IT!! (sorry bout caps)

 

Ally8-)

[Bluedo]

Hey guys,

 

Sorry, no reply to my inquiry to Hausfeld. (Don't know if it was the same for you Bluedo?)

 

The video link giving advice did put me a little more at ease...but not so much that i'll roll over and give up!!

 

WE CAN DO IT!! (sorry bout caps)

 

Ally8-)

 

Hi Ally, No I keep checking but nothing I think that form went to USA, but Fuzzbutt phoned them yesterday and they'll look into the contracts and get back to him it'll be interesting see what they say.

You're right we can't give up without at least trying to enforce our s75 rights

I've just about had enough of the stress and it might have more clout if there's a lot of us with the same aim on this.

I was reading the Debt forum here and my hat's off to some of the inspiring people who have empowered themselves against Banks and DCA's, because thanks to Advent and BPF I have nothing but a massive debt.

I was set up and feel conned ( MCSE needing to be employed in IT for 18month before attempting it.) to fleece the pockets of the already disgustingly rich. It's criminal, Legally of course.

[a4ron]

Guys,

 

I have just returned from my meeting with a solicitor, he thinks I have a strong case against Barclays Partner Finance, he has got to look through all the documents that I have provided but the next step is for a strong letter to Barclays asking them to stop stalling and start reimbursing the money.

He is confident that the letter will, kick Barclays into gear and I will get a proper response rather than a template letter. When we get a response depends on how we can act next, basically Barclays will consult there legal advisers and proceed accordingly.

I did mention that there are a lot of other students in the same boat as me and would he look at representing us all if we wanted to take this further, he thinks that the more people who contact him the more clout we will have if we unite we can also split costs.

So if anyone would like to join me in this is what you need to do.

Make copies of all the following documents and send/e-mail to him [email protected]

· Advent Enrolment form

· Barclays Letters and agreement

· Your letters sent to Barclays

· You MUST put in your letter or e-mail that this is to do with advent computer training, Reference the meeting with Aaron Vowles on 24th March, “I have a similar case and would like to be included”.

Solicitor Contact Details:

Moore & Tibbits

34 High Street

Warwick

CV 34 4BE

Tel: 01926 491181

Fax: 0126 402692

E-mail: [email protected]

Nothing is done unless you give it the okay, so there is no charge unless you want something doing, what is there to loose?

[Lankus]

Guys,

 

I have just returned from my meeting with a solicitor, he thinks I have a strong case against Barclays Partner Finance, he has got to look through all the documents that I have provided but the next step is for a strong letter to Barclays asking them to stop stalling and start reimbursing the money.

 

He is confident that the letter will, kick Barclays into gear and I will get a proper response rather than a template letter. When we get a response depends on how we can act next, basically Barclays will consult there legal advisers and proceed accordingly.

 

I did mention that there are a lot of other students in the same boat as me and would he look at representing us all if we wanted to take this further, he thinks that the more people who contact him the more clout we will have if we unite we can also split costs.

 

So if anyone would like to join me in this is what you need to do.

 

Make copies of all the following documents and send/e-mail to him [email protected]

· Advent Enrolment form

· Barclays Letters and agreement

· Your letters sent to Barclays

· You MUST put in your letter or e-mail that this is to do with advent computer training, Reference the meeting with Aaron Vowles on 24th March, “I have a similar case and would like to be included”.

 

Solicitor Contact Details:

Moore & Tibbits

34 High Street

Warwick

CV 34 4BE

Tel: 01926 491181

Fax: 0126 402692

E-mail: [email protected]

 

Nothing is done unless you give it the okay, so there is no charge unless you want something doing, what is there to loose?

 

 

 

Hi a4ron, excellent new, thanks. Can I ask if you qualify for legal aid. I don't so I don't know if that will affect me being able to include myself in this. Also, my course was with Access rather than Advent, but they're essentially the same company so hopefully won't cause a problem

[a4ron]

Hi Matthew,

Unfortunately I don’t qualify for legal aid, however whilst in the meeting the solicitor did enquire if I was eligible for legal aid, so it must be something they deal with as well.

I would get something sent to them and ask the question, at the moment there is no charges because you haven’t asked them to do anything anyway , they will notify you of costs etc before doing any work, so its worth just sending copies of your documents to see what can be done.

Hope this helps

[glodwick]

Thanks alot Aaron I have sent that email a copy of my documents and I am with u in this to try to get a refund ...

 

Thankx

[NITLC]

 

NITLC Offer New Deal to Ex Advent IT Computer Training Students

 

The National IT Learning Centre, who offered free workshops to Ex Advent IT students which were a great success, have now offered further help for those who want to continue their training with a new provider of their choice.

 

Managing Director Charles Oskwarek stated: ‘NITLC are not involved in current discussions with the Administrators PKF (UK) in relation to the sale or negotiations to buy Advent Training or Access Training, or provide training for Advent students despite the positive feedback NITLC have received from Advent Students.

However, NITLC have received countless calls from Ex Advent Students asking for our help as still nothing has been concluded and students do not appear to know what is happening. Many Advent Students may, subject to how they funded their course, be free to choose a provider of their choice to complete their IT Training once they have fully researched and tested their rights.

NITLC have and continue to make it clear that they are not in a position to offer advice on specific loan agreements students have entered into, or their rights, however due to the demand they have received NITLC have decided to offer the following for those who wish and are in a position now or in the future to take up new alternative training options and exercise their freedom of choice.’

Exclusive Offer To Ex Advent IT Students

Ø Significantly reduced course costs exclusive to EX Advent Students subject to the financial commitment they have already made and level of progress in their training to date.

Ø The latest 2008 Microsoft qualifications as most other training providers are still only offering Server 2003 qualifications.

Ø Tailored courses and payment terms on a one to one basis.

Ø Full access to fully certified Tutors and on most courses hands-on workshops.

Ø Access to Student Net and the most in depth-practice exams in the world

Ø Full access to our careers department to help students into an IT career.

Important!

NITLC are unable on this occasion to offer these high quality course options (with superior support inclusive of exam costs, workshops and all the benefits) free of charge; costs albeit significantly and exclusively lower will need to be met by the students but NITLC do promise the following:

NITLC Promise

1. This is a genuine offer with new options specially created for Ex Advent Students at lower costs for their IT Career courses based on demand we have already received.

2. No sales representative or sales presentation will be involved; all interested students will be dealt with by the senior management team at NITLC’s Head office on an open and honest basis.

3. Interested students can visit NITLC Head Office to meet the Tutors and Directors, and examine training and exam facilities and for one to one consultation, once students are in a position to consider their new training options.

What’s Next?

Ø Do your research: Check out the IT Training Checklist on this link IT Training Courses from the National IT Learning Centre

Ø Contact David Greenwood, NITLC’s Student Services Manager on 01636 612226 to discuss your training situation and for a one to one free consultation if appropriate, or e-mail [email protected].

Finally, we believe that our Courses and Student Support are superior to that of any other similar provider having been in training for almost 20 years, in fact in most cases ours are the only fully up to date courses. For many Ex Advent Students who are determined to achieve their training and career goals we are also confident that we can not only offer similar terms that they received in the past but better terms overall in most, if not all, cases.

[Fuzzbutt]

Thanks A4ron, that's a really great offer.

 

Did the solicitor mention the frustrated contract issue out of interest, or just the S75 CCA as a basis to fight for a refund on breach of contract?

 

I have heard back today from Hausfeld (who may consider representing us as a group for free on a no win no fee basis - yet to hear details though.)

 

"Thanks for sending this to us XXX,

 

We’ll have some time to look at these documents over the next couple of days and get back to you by the end of the week.

 

It must have been very disappointing and frustrating for you all!

 

Best wishes

Ingrid

 

Ingrid Gubbay, Of Counsel

"

[Mustard2243]

Cool it would be awesome to have Hausfield (or his firm anyway) represent us. I was going to look into it myself but forgot i was on nights this week

[Bluedo]

Thanks A4ron, that's a really great offer.

 

Did the solicitor mention the frustrated contract issue out of interest, or just the S75 CCA as a basis to fight for a refund on breach of contract?

 

I have heard back today from Hausfeld (who may consider representing us as a group for free on a no win no fee basis - yet to hear details though.)

 

"Thanks for sending this to us XXX,

 

We’ll have some time to look at these documents over the next couple of days and get back to you by the end of the week.

 

It must have been very disappointing and frustrating for you all!

 

Best wishes

Ingrid

 

Ingrid Gubbay, Of Counsel

"

 

Hi Fuzzbutt

It's not an immediate no then so it's a maybe like Mustard says it would be great to get Hausfeld to take this on for us and no win no fee is Brilliant:D well done!! I'll cross my fingers again:-D

 

Thanks a4ron for doing that as well that's also good to have another firm willing to help.

[Fuzzbutt]

As I say, I don't know exactly what the Hausfeld deal will be so need to hear back on details first before making a decision either way, but A4ron's solicitor sounds a good option too if he's happy to take us all on.

 

I think we need to weigh it all up cooly.

[Fuzzbutt]

Sorry - duplicate post....

[richeeeee]

I am very interested into what does come about as i too fell for the sales speech, took out the credit agreement with BPF and so owe them 10k including the interest.

 

Willing to help as best as i can, though it seems you guys are doing an admirable job so far. Will keep checking this regularly!

[Fuzzbutt]

I'm on the case BIGTIME!

 

It's sickening that a bank can basically quietly bully and mislead customers for it's own ends. And let's face it, that's what is going on here..hoping you won't speak up and push it!

 

Mass mailout soothing letters from Barclays tell us don't worry we are in the process of arranging an alternative provider ..umm...soon, but we're not sure exactly when...

 

HA HA ...Well you've had your time now Barclays and (I'm sure they are monitoring this forum!) we are gonna kick your ass! Wake up and take note!!

[mantaxi]

Guys,

 

I have just returned from my meeting with a solicitor, he thinks I have a strong case against Barclays Partner Finance, he has got to look through all the documents that I have provided but the next step is for a strong letter to Barclays asking them to stop stalling and start reimbursing the money.

 

He is confident that the letter will, kick Barclays into gear and I will get a proper response rather than a template letter. When we get a response depends on how we can act next, basically Barclays will consult there legal advisers and proceed accordingly.

 

I did mention that there are a lot of other students in the same boat as me and would he look at representing us all if we wanted to take this further, he thinks that the more people who contact him the more clout we will have if we unite we can also split costs.

 

So if anyone would like to join me in this is what you need to do.

 

Make copies of all the following documents and send/e-mail to him [email protected]

· Advent Enrolment form

· Barclays Letters and agreement

· Your letters sent to Barclays

· You MUST put in your letter or e-mail that this is to do with advent computer training, Reference the meeting with Aaron Vowles on 24th March, “I have a similar case and would like to be included”.

 

Solicitor Contact Details:

Moore & Tibbits

34 High Street

Warwick

CV 34 4BE

Tel: 01926 491181

Fax: 0126 402692

E-mail: [email protected]

 

Nothing is done unless you give it the okay, so there is no charge unless you want something doing, what is there to loose?

 

 

that sounds like great news a4ron i for one will definetly send him my details and the more of us that do it the less it will cost us. about time we had someone on the side of the little guy against the giant. the more that join the bigger we get, no more little guy. well done a4ron

[Savarok]

I do have another point - with XP support shortly being dropped by Microsoft where does that leave our study plans?

 

With Windows 7 now being the jewel in the MS crown we need to be studying towards relevant qualifications.

 

Its no use studying to be a steam train mechanic if all the modern trains run on diesel.

 

Surely we can use this as well?

[NITLC]

That is an very relevant point. Rumours abound connecting Advent students to a possible provider who only does Server 2003 qualifications.

 

 

 

We have been offering Server 2008 for some time, and we now include the new Windows 7 qualifications as well. This is one of the reasons we issued the press release - as we are not part of the negotiating process we didn't want to be associated with no choice other than older qualifications, as well as possibly poor support.

[jimwg]

Hi, first post on here. Just received an arrears notice letter from barclays partner finance, despite the fact that the account is frozen and no payments have been missed.

 

Wasn't happy, so rang them up to complain. Before I could complain the customer service rep informed me that the new provided had been finalised. No big surprise. It is Computeach.

 

They will be sending letters out to students over the next few days. There is also a contact number available for us to contact Computeach if want to speak to them. Sorry i didn't write the number down.

 

Also told to ignore the arrears notice.

[jimwg]

Like most of you guys I would like to be out of this mess and have nothing more to do with BPF. But it looks like we'll just have to bend over and take it. I feel the only hope we had of getting our money back was the length of time it was taking to source the new provider.

 

With Computeach being finalised today, that looks like we're not going to get what we want. I'll just have to re-focus on the fact that I got into this in the first place to gain IT qualifications. It'll just be with another provider now.

[a4ron]

I wont hold me breath until I get the letter.

 

Even so, under ALL agrements "consumer rights" if we are not hapy with the product or service WE can take action against them.

 

Personally, I have lost 8 weeks that I cannot gain back in study time and my employer won't extend any allowances they have made for me over the duration that the course would take.

 

When I handed my money over at least I knew what i was buying, in the sence that the location of advent was good, I had seen the facilities, (or so i thought at the time!!).

If i wanted to go with computeach i would of signed up with them....

 

Would you accept this if you were buying a BMW and then you were offered a Hyundi, it's still a car I guess "they" can argue?

 

I have had enough, i'm going to continue with getting my money back, solicitor it is

[Bluedo]

Hi, first post on here. Just received an arrears notice letter from barclays partner finance, despite the fact that the account is frozen and no payments have been missed.

 

Wasn't happy, so rang them up to complain. Before I could complain the customer service rep informed me that the new provided had been finalised. No big surprise. It is Computeach.

 

They will be sending letters out to students over the next few days. There is also a contact number available for us to contact Computeach if want to speak to them. Sorry i didn't write the number down.

 

Also told to ignore the arrears notice.

 

Hi Jim

Thanks for posting that'll be why BPF has gained confidence to send out demands for payment.(Me too )They can't deny the time. They've took too long and Computeach:eek

Check out the thread list here COMPUTEACH OR WILL THEY? it's at the bottom of thread list page for anyone who's not seen it.

[a4ron]

I wont hold me breath until I get the letter.

 

Even so, under ALL agrements "consumer rights" if we are not hapy with the product or service WE can take action against them.

 

Personally, I have lost 8 weeks that I cannot gain back in study time and my employer won't extend any allowances they have made for me over the duration that the course would take.

 

When I handed my money over at least I knew what i was buying, in the sence that the location of advent was good, I had seen the facilities, (or so i thought at the time!!).

If i wanted to go with computeach i would of signed up with them....

 

Would you accept this if you were buying a BMW and then you were offered a Hyundi, it's still a car I guess "they" can argue?

 

I have had enough, i'm going to continue with getting my money back, with my solicitor.

 

If i could suggest anything to you ALL reject the offer and we WILL get our money back.

[Mustard2243]

No i will not do it, they have taken far too long and my complaint is now with the ombudsman.

 

It is too late for you Barclays you are not taking anymore more of my hard earned cash for a Two Bit mis-sold training course.