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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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Mind you, PKF were stating on 2 March on their website that ....

 

"Administrators from accountants and business advisers PKF in Birmingham have agreed terms with two separate operators to buy the interests of Hagley-based Advent Computer Training and Access 2 Careers.

It is anticipated that many of the students caught up in the collapse of two Midland training companies are set to see their futures secured."

 

But still no names nearly a month on, no information released about when, it's all 'soon' and 'in the near future'.

 

The class action lawsuit sounds an interesting option. Was reading about it here...

What is a Class Action Lawsuit?

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Dudley | Computers | Advent Computer Training

 

 

Here's our MIS_SOLD JOB OFFER PROOF guys

 

Advent IT training can retrain you and introduce you to an assortment of IT job opportunities including a new career as an IT Support Manager, Database Administrator or even a Web Designer with the Master CIW Designer course.

 

Thanks Bluedo - nice find!

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http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/article1496294.ece

 

In case anyone missed this article

 

 

Contact Us :: Hausfeld LLP

 

This if you want to contact Hausfeld

 

Hi Fuzzbutt and Mantaxi I'm hoping they'd take us on will wait see if they reply

or if any of you are on facebook let them know what we're doing also the access 2 trade or whatever the other trade co's called now could be with us on this

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US class action star targets UK - Times Online

 

In case anyone missed this article

 

 

Contact Us :: Hausfeld LLP

 

This if you want to contact Hausfeld

 

Hi Fuzzbutt and Mantaxi I'm hoping they'd take us on will wait see if they reply

or if any of you are on facebook let them know what we're doing also the access 2 trade or whatever the other trade co's called now could be with us on this

 

 

Just pointing out The Times link does not work

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hi bluedo is this a free service only, read most of the web page but didn't see anything about payment. if it is free then i suggest everyone conntact them, the more people that tell them what has happened to us, the more chance they will take up our case. we all need a bit of clout and if someone like hausfeld can give bpf a clip arround the ear for us we might see things start to happen. we are like the little people on our own trying to fight goliath so maybe hausfeld can be our david.

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hi bluedo is this a free service only, read most of the web page but didn't see anything about payment. if it is free then i suggest everyone conntact them, the more people that tell them what has happened to us, the more chance they will take up our case. we all need a bit of clout and if someone like hausfeld can give bpf a clip arround the ear for us we might see things start to happen. we are like the little people on our own trying to fight goliath so maybe hausfeld can be our david.

 

 

Hi Mantaxi

Did the above link to the times article work for you ok?

In the Times article it mentions that ......

 

"As class actions evolve in Britain, so too have the financing of the expensive cases. These new multi-billion-pound claims can be financed by hedge funds and others seeking to profit from the legal costs involved. For example, Insolvency Management (IM), which was founded by insolvency expert Chris Morris, uses money from high-net-worth individuals to bank-roll cases and share the proceeds from the litigation. IM, which includes former London "

 

So if someone knows for defo let us know how it works. It looks like if we won then Barclays would be sued for costs so they can pay Hausfeld so their ears would be well and truly clipped :D

It would be cheaper for them to just refund us but on their head be it they want a fight so sleeves up guys.

 

Better not count our chickens yet hopefully they'll reply and take us on more fingers crossed they've never been crossed as much in their life :)

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i got the same 404 error. that news about hausfeld seems ok by me will email them tomorrow. lets bombard them with complaints that we have with bpf and see what happens. got nothing to lose but a lot to gain.

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US class action star targets UK - Times Online

 

Does this link work now Mantaxi? Apparently we need to stress a cause of action being mis-sold and overcharged and the contract being in breach and the unscrupulous goings on of Advent might do I hope. And BPF isn't squeaky clean I'm sure.

As you say nothing to lose and I feel that all the organisations supposed to help people just keep you going round in circles and are just collecting complaints and nothing happens.

Are you on Facebook Mantaxi ?

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Hi All,

 

 

Why dont we all sent a mass mail to a solicitor, if we all use the same reference or a template letter we could be represented as one entity, this will certainly give our cases more appeal?

 

I have a solicitor in warwick that I am dealing with, if I menton that a lot of letters regarding this will reach him, i'm sure he will be interested.

I'm seeing my solicitor on wednesday 24th March.

 

What do you think? So if we all agree to send our letter on the same day the solicitor will see the scale of the task.

 

I think this will be better than someone on this forum collecting all of our info and sending on, we all then be more proactive.

 

Please let me know what you think before Wedndsday 24th!!!

 

Tasks for everyone,

1. Get a good template to send to solicitor, stating that we want to be represented.. also that we want to be individually contacted on the letter.

 

2. pick a day for ALL OF US to send the letter off.

 

Does this sound like a plan?

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hi guys just had a reply to the legal letter that i sent 2 weeks ago. its just another standard letter telling me they are sorry that i am complaining but keep on paying as i will break the terms of my credit agreement. what a joke, i paid in full on the due date and they could not be bothered to check my account. they say i can complain to the complaints department and tell them of my concerns, well if my concerns were not in the legal letter that was sent i do not know what they want. i wish i was paying then i would stop payment and let them take me to court. i am getting rearly annoyed now at the way they are treating all of us. telling me that i will break the terms of the agreement when thats exactly what they have done.

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US class action star targets UK - Times Online

 

In case anyone missed this article

 

 

Contact Us :: Hausfeld LLP

 

This if you want to contact Hausfeld

 

Hi Fuzzbutt and Mantaxi I'm hoping they'd take us on will wait see if they reply

or if any of you are on facebook let them know what we're doing also the access 2 trade or whatever the other trade co's called now could be with us on this

 

Thanks Bluedo.

I'm unclear whether Hauseld do this for free though, or what happens if they don't win the case (can Barclays sue us?) I couldn't find any info on their website about this.

 

If it is a no risk to us free service though I'd defnately go with you on that. I'll wait to see if they say yes to you and meanwhile I'll draft a short presentation covering all the issues, mis-selling, Consumer credit act etc.

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hi guys just had a reply to the legal letter that i sent 2 weeks ago. its just another standard letter telling me they are sorry that i am complaining but keep on paying as i will break the terms of my credit agreement. what a joke, i paid in full on the due date and they could not be bothered to check my account. they say i can complain to the complaints department and tell them of my concerns, well if my concerns were not in the legal letter that was sent i do not know what they want. i wish i was paying then i would stop payment and let them take me to court. i am getting rearly annoyed now at the way they are treating all of us. telling me that i will break the terms of the agreement when thats exactly what they have done.

 

Sorry to hear that, Mantaxi. I had the standard reply also after the FreeLegal letter I sent them.

 

Hoping that Bluedo will have a positive response from Hausfield and that it will be something like the 'no win no fee' or something as I can't really afford solicitor's fees. I could just stretch to the £100 to put in a claim against Barclays through a small claims court, but hoping it won't come to that.

 

A4RON's offer above sounds good, but it will come down to how much it will cost if it can be arranged, for me at the moment anyway. :(

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Sorry to hear that, Mantaxi. I had the standard reply also after the FreeLegal letter I sent them.

 

Hoping that Bluedo will have a positive response from Hausfield and that it will be something like the 'no win no fee' or something as I can't really afford solicitor's fees. I could just stretch to the £100 to put in a claim against Barclays through a small claims court, but hoping it won't come to that.

 

A4RON's offer above sounds good, but it will come down to how much it will cost if it can be arranged, for me at the moment anyway. :(

 

 

quite agree i think it might be worth asking him on wed to find out what it would cost to take bpf to court. if it came to £3000 the more of us that go with it the less we would have to pay. 300 of us would only be a tenner each. hope thats how it would work. go for it A4RON'S

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Thanks Bluedo.

I'm unclear whether Hauseld do this for free though, or what happens if they don't win the case (can Barclays sue us?) I couldn't find any info on their website about this.

 

If it is a no risk to us free service though I'd defnately go with you on that. I'll wait to see if they say yes to you and meanwhile I'll draft a short presentation covering all the issues, mis-selling, Consumer credit act etc.

 

Hi Fuzzbutt,

I don't know how these class action lawsuits are financed. I'm guessing if Hausfeld & Co don't think they'll win then they'd not take the case. :(

 

Wish if someone knows anything about it, the CAG mods or anyone could maybe advise us what they think about doing this

 

I definately will be fighting this in court but if this was possible(with Hausfeld) then it would really come down on BPF maybe open a can of worms. Plus I think the Lawyers and organisations here are hesitant of taking on big Banks. I haven't much faith in the Lawyers near me I was told" you can't get out of paying"!!! "EXCUSE ME!!!???"

 

Just a thought but ( I have an imagination that's not good for me) but Hausfeld officially opened his London Practice on 18th February 2009 was it a coincidence Barclay pulled the plug on distance learning December 2009

 

 

Hi mantaxi sorry about the letter but just shows us what to expect they are as Cashins said weeks ago the most arrogant of Banks They don't care about any of us they want to not pay out and we need to just stand firm together if we want any kind of result .

If BPF was in the right we wouldn't be getting generic letters we would be getting threatened and they can shove their new provider AS IF! we'd want anything to do with them after this.

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OMG!! postman just been, letter from BPF

 

This Notice is given under the Consumer Credit Act 1974 and relates to default sums charged under the terms of your agreement, This notice does not take account of default sums which which we have already told you about in another default sum notice, whether or not those sums remain unpaid.

Your direct debit payment due on 11/3/10 in the amount £234.82 blah blah

Please note that this outstanding amount is now due immediately blah blah

A direct debit charge of £20 was applied to your account on 16/3/10 to cover administration costs relating to this transaction. if you have a query on the account please don't hesitate to contact us.

 

WELL!!! I have a letter saying the accounts on hold and what they saying previous default notice but the **!!!!@@ have added the mad interest

 

HELP!!!hows best way to deal with this

 

So now come the threats well they can take me to court or pass the debt to a DCA

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letter dated 1st march

We're sorry you have reason to complain blah blah ,whilst we do sympathise

with your situation, until we have resolved this matter your account has been placed on hold. please be assured that this does not affect your statutory rights

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