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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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I live in my boyfriends house and pay him rent. His is the only name on the mortgage and utilities and we have no joint finances whatsoever

 

He has just been made redundant and will be given contribution JSA for 6 months

 

We are worried that me having a job will stop him getting any benefits if he doesnt get a job after 6 months (I have a lot of debt to pay off and have little or no spare cash left each month as it is even after arranging reduced payments to my creditors)

 

Would I automatically be classed as his "partner" as we live at the same address or could he legitimately claim as a single person as long as he declares the rental income he gets from me (which would barely cover the mortgage)

mbna - no agreement provided - settled for 31% of balance!

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Susiemac

 

As your boyfriend's JSA is contribution based for the first six months (i.e. not means tested) the fact that you are living together will not affect the amount of benefit he receives. However, after that it will be assessed on the household income and that will mean that your salary will be taken into account (not the sum that you consider you are paying him as "rent"). You would have to represent yourselves to the DWP as being in a commercial landlord-tenant situation when in truth you are a couple in a relationship similar to that of man and wife (or a couple in a civil partnership). My advice - don't lie, not worth the risk, you will be telling DWP that you are landlord/tenant and everybody else that you are boyfriend/girlfriend - and I don't mean just your family and friends; think what you tell insurance companies, employers, banks etc. If you get caught out you will be prosecuted and could end up with a criminal record for fraud. Sorry to be so blunt but best to be truthful. Hopefully your boyfriend will have some luck in finding another job - good luck

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Your boyfriend if he has no mortgage protection policy could apply for help towards payment of his mortgage after thirteen weeks of being on JSA. If he does apply for help then he would have to declare your earnings and this will effect any help he would have got towards his mortgage.

 

It is unlikely that he will qualify for help towards the mortgage from the state as his partner's earnings are likely to be over the threshold for a means-tested benefit.

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You don't say if you have any children but I would recommend that you apply for tax credits from HMRC - the new name for the combined Inland Revenue and Customs & Excise Dpts - once your partner's JSA ends. Even if you have no children you may be entitled to Tax Credits depending on your income so well worth considering

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we dont have kids but wont get tax credits on my income but doesnt take into account that Im already struggling to repay my debt and if I have to pay all the bills including a mortgage that isnt mine, we are going to struggle very badly and im going to have to renegotiate my debt repayments and im worried that covering my boyfriends mortgage and bills wont be classed as a good enough reason by my creditors

 

as I said before we have NO joint commitments or bank accounts. We live in the same house but have never relied on each other for payments and while I understand joint income rules I think its a little unfair that Im just getting my debt repayments into a manageable state and my boyfriend who has worked and paid NI and tax for 18 years isnt entitled to a little bit more support from the government - means testing doesnt work when it only looks at topline salary without taking actual disposable cash into account

 

PS i wasnt trying to commit benefit fraud, just looking for a legitimate way to make a bad situation a little better

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we dont have kids but wont get tax credits on my income but doesnt take into account that Im already struggling to repay my debt and if I have to pay all the bills including a mortgage that isnt mine

Well, unless you move out into your own property the state will look at joint income. A mortgage is a priority whereas credit debt is regarded as a non-priority, you should always try and pay a mortgage above and beyond credit debt.

im worried that covering my boyfriends mortgage and bills wont be classed as a good enough reason by my creditors

They shoul dappreciate that a mortgage is more important than a debt.

 

while I understand joint income rules I think its a little unfair that Im just getting my debt repayments into a manageable state and my boyfriend who has worked and paid NI and tax for 18 years isnt entitled to a little bit more support from the government - means testing doesnt work when it only looks at topline salary without taking actual disposable cash into account

 

I appreciate where you're coming from but the state looks at things as a joint unit unfortuneately.

 

It might be worth having a read through the National Debtline self-help pack:

 

National Debtline England & Wales | Debt Advice

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My apologies, it was not my intention in any way to infer that you were going to commit benefit fraud. At the end of the day creditors want their money back and I do think that renegotiation of your debts with help from the likes of the CAB etc would be the best avenue but, in reply to your original query, I am afraid I cannot see any legitimate way your boyfriend would be able to claim income based benefit whilst you are living together as a couple. Hopefully your boyfriend will be fortunate in securing employment soon.

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My apologies, it was not my intention in any way to infer that you were going to commit benefit fraud. At the end of the day creditors want their money back and I do think that renegotiation of your debts with help from the likes of the CAB etc would be the best avenue but, in reply to your original query, I am afraid I cannot see any legitimate way your boyfriend would be able to claim income based benefit whilst you are living together as a couple. Hopefully your boyfriend will be fortunate in securing employment soon.

 

Hi Susiemac

 

I think the best way forward for you and your boyfriend would be to sit down and work out how much disposable income is left from both your incomes, after secured debt, priority debt e.g. council tax and expenses e.g. food is taken into account. The sum left over should be apportioned to your unsecured debtors and credit card debt and letters sent with offers of reduced monthly payments. A breakdown of your income and expenses will also need to be sent. Mention to them that a review will be undertaken every 6 months and if your boyfriend has found a job payments could possibly be increased. There are letters and an income breakdown on this forum under the templates section.

 

Good luck to your boyfriend on the job front.

 

JAC

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It might be worth having a read through the National Debtline self-help pack:

 

National Debtline England & Wales | Debt Advice

 

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Hello Susiemac77

 

In your original posting you mention about automatically being classed as his partner.

The following may be of interest to you :-

 

Thread Anyone interested in Decision Maker's Guide

Choose Contents Volume 3

Choose Chapter 11.

 

This information shows basically what the DWP would be looking at when deciding on a Living Together situation.

 

I'm not going to make assumptions about mortgage size, earnings etc but with regards to claiming JSA Income Based if you work 24 hours per week or more on average then the conditions of entitlement as a couple would not be met.

 

Cheers MelissaTeddyBear

 

 

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