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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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I agree. I have also had a letter last week demanding £300 for one song which they claim I downloaded 6 months ago. For now should I just ignore the letter and hope it goes away

 

harbs, consensus here is you do reply with a letter of denial, as it is, unfortunately, a legimate letter you have received

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i was going to post a letter off already got it written, but i have contacted my mp. she has taken the matter up in contacting the authoraties and will be dealing with it on my behalf.. maybe could be a good course of action. if we get more mp to handle it this injustice might stop

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I recieved a letter dated 3/06/10 regarding the download of "evacuate the dancefloor" on 21/08/09.

 

ACS law are looking for £295 within the 21 day period to settle the matter.

 

looking at previous posts it would appear that if i was to pay even though i didnt download the song/ album then the likely hood is that i would then continue to recieve letters at later dates looking for further compensation for other items that have been downloaded via my IP address.

 

Regarding the LOD. There is a web site called www.beingthreatened.com which has a letter that you can use as a template and has other advice which seems pretty helpful.

 

I have spoken with SKY who have on my account that they recieved a request for my details due to these proceedings. (date 14/04/10). have SKY been duped or has this been legally obtained?

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Even if SKY has been told that they must give out your details, why have they not notified you that there is a problem with your account. When I contacted SKY when I received my first letter in April they denied any acknowledgement of a court order. I even contacted the legal department, which got me know where. Well I have just sent off my second letter of denial today. Now I am just waiting for my third letter from them, as I do not think that,that will be the last that I hear from them. But you never know.

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Now I am just waiting for my third letter from them, as I do not think that,that will be the last that I hear from them. But you never know.

 

You have made your point, (Twice), if they come back again just ignore them.

 

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You have made your point, (Twice), if they come back again just ignore them.

 

David

 

Yeah, I agree there will be know further correspondence from me I have made that clear in the letter. Do not want to get into letter ping pong with them, I have wasted enough of my time initially on worrying about this whole thing.:)

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Help!... I got my first letter from ACS LAW, must have reached my door almost a month ago, and have not writen or compose my LOD yet, I recieved it abit late. due to a holiday or more than likely been abit confused about it :confused:. and clearly passed my 21 period date ..

.I think its the date when it arrived by post, and not the date on top of the letter

After tooth combing through these posts, it seems to be a must to write a Letter of denial.

Would it effect my First LOD if it was late a two or so weeks late from the 21 period or

am i in trouble .

anyway I am not paying either way... Court or no court because

i didn't do it ....:(

 

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Just write and send your LOD off straight away, then like the rest of us wait and see what happens. It is likely that they will write to you again, asking for double the amount. Like they have done with the majority of victims on this site.

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Would it effect my First LOD if it was late a two or so weeks late from the 21 period or

 

am i in trouble .

 

In answer to your question - no.

 

Sending an LOD is indeed considered the thing to do. However despite their upbeat website, ASC have yet to provide any evidence that they have taken anyone (who made it plain they would defend) to court, let alone won a case.

 

I wouldn't suggest it but I'm pretty certain even if you wrote 'F*** off, I will see you in court' the result would be the same.

 

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Thank you! Zero thats a piece of mind...:)

Somehow i compose it by using the templates as guides

By royal mail say. and not an email.. Maybe sent the LOD recorded deliverly...

 

Glad to join everyone who posts here... ... :D

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Hmmm, apparently Cascada had a No 1 with this on July 5th, even tho my letter states the "work" was released on the 17th July. Now I'm really confused. Is there another track with the same name i'm confusing this with. Or did bill, ben and little weed (the rights owners - and "joint owners") not have anything to do with the actual single release that got to no. 1?

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Thank you! Zero thats a piece of mind...:)

Somehow i compose it by using the templates as guides

By royal mail say. and not an email.. Maybe sent the LOD recorded deliverly...

 

Glad to join everyone who posts here... ... :D

 

Always send any correspondence to ACS Law via recorded delivery, so that you have proof that it has been sent and that they have received it. We are not dealing with genuine people.:)

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Hopefully this is more bad exposure for this disgraceful firm. With bad publicity, they might think twice about continuing. Like other firms that have worked in this area and then stopped. Though I do not think that Crossley and his associates have any sort of conscience, so it will probably go straight other their heads.

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I agree -

 

My interpretation of the proposed code, and in particular the following parts;

 

3.2, 4.4, 5.6 and 7.5

 

is that it will effectively end the ACS:Law business model as it currently stands. It seems that the whole copyright infringement "business" will be cleaned up -

 

  • Copyright owners will be able deal directly with ISPs.
  • Allegations of copyright infringement will have to be evidentially robust and accurate, and proven to be so.
  • The process of matching IP addresses to subscribers will have to be proved to be accurate.
  • Provisions for grounds of appeal on which a subscriber may rely.

The sooner this comes in. the better.

 

I agree but there is still one major stumbling block - "The process of matching IP addresses to subscribers will have to be proved to be accurate". Wireless connections can be compromised ie: unsecured network or hacking for example. How can any "process" be completely accurate in these circumstances. Moreover, how can an innocent person whose IP address has been identified as a copyright infringer prove otherwise.

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Even if SKY has been told that they must give out your details, why have they not notified you that there is a problem with your account. When I contacted SKY when I received my first letter in April they denied any acknowledgement of a court order. I even contacted the legal department, which got me know where. Well I have just sent off my second letter of denial today. Now I am just waiting for my third letter from them, as I do not think that,that will be the last that I hear from them. But you never know.

 

Oh Sky, BskyB, Easynet. Which one art thou? All p*****g in the same pot of no information.

 

IP adresses are harvested and ISP's identified. ISP's are contacted and informed of the intention of applying to the court for the details of IP address (Norwich Pharmacal Order), and if they will oppose the application. The court order is then obtained and ISP provides the details.

 

Of course Sky knew (or at least someome knew, depending on which department you got through to).

Did you get referred to "coenquiries" - the all new fully automated Sky information service that advises you to "contact ACS Law". (Yeah did that!) They are a complete and utter waste of time and offer no help whatsoever If you push them they will tell you when they recieved the court order. (but you already knew that because you have a copy too!)

What they wont tell you is when they were first notified, of course, because that would have been helpful.

 

.......Oh by the way, we (Sky) have noticed that your downloads have gone over the monthly allowance, again, so we are automatically upgrading you to our "unlimited " package so that you can carry on.... there's nothing to worry about. The increase in your monthly subscription will automatically be applied.

 

I am no longer with Sky Broadband

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