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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
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Hi everyone, I'm new to this forum & have had a phone call from my old landlord this morning to let me know that 2 Enforcement Officers had been to my old address.

 

Basically, the story goes like this - Back in January I appeared at Westminster Magistrates Court in Horseferry Road regarding something extremely stupid that I had done. I was ordered to pay a £3000 fine within 14 days & £10 per week until further notice. It was impossible for me to pay £3000 in such a short amount of time & I wrote to the court 3 days after appearing to let them know this (I was told not to mention it in the court as the judge was in a bad mood). I never heard anything back & when I tried to call them I was just told that someone would get back to me. I haven't been able to pay the £10 each week for the last 3 weeks as my job seekers claim has been stopped & I will be starting work next week.

 

Since hearing about this mornings visitors, I've got in touch with the court once again. I got as far as the switchboard as the woman told me that the court would not be able to help over the phone. She said to look online or write / email the court. I've sent them an email this morning to explain what is going on & that I do plan to keep paying as soon as I have an income.

 

I'm just worried that as I'm having such a nightmare getting through to anyone, they are going to turn up at my current address & bring police with them. I've read that as it's a court fine they are within their rights to force entry. As it's not my house & the only thing in there that I own are my clothes etc, this is obviously the last thing I want. I'm pregnant as well & after suffering 2 miscarriages last year, I can really do without this at the moment.

 

I read on one of the threads on here this morning something about the Marston Group. I have emailed them as well just incase they have any advice. Just don't know what to do next.

 

Any advice will be very much appreciated!

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I believe that as you are pregnant you would be classed as vulnerable and they wouldn't be able to force entry, tell them you are pregnant and any visits would be inappropriate to your vulnerable status.

 

I am sure that someone more savvy will give you more info shortly.

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You are pregnant. http://www.dca.gov.uk/enforcement/agents02.htm#part10

 

Do not telephone a bailiff, speak to him or open the door and never say your name. Just ask them to quielty leave. Ask your doctor for written evidence you are pregnant and send it to the court and bailiffs and the post office for a ceritificate of posting.

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No they dont have a power to arrest. Never seek advice from a bailiff - especially Marstons! They will just want you to tell them your current address then they will hide behind the Data Protection Act.

 

Given your circumstances I am surprised a court fined you so heavily given you don't have much prospect of ever paying it. They can't take what you havn't got.

 

Worse case scenario is, if you willfully refuse to pay and its proven you have the means to pay then you may be charged with Contempt of Court.

 

I think you should speak to Citizens Advice, they can help you arrange the necessary representations to the court.

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I made sure I didn't give them any addresses at all, I just sent them a direct email. I'll be sure to ignore any response from them in that case.

 

I've tried to call CAB but am having a nightmare even getting anyone to answer the phone, I can't get down there until Friday so will have to keep trying until I can get there.

 

I've written a letter to the court stating that I am willing to pay but am having trouble at the moment with no income & will they let me pick up where I left off as soon as I start getting paid.

 

I just hope the court will be reasonable............

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Given your circumstances I am surprised a court fined you so heavily given you don't have much prospect of ever paying it. They can't take what you haven't got.

 

Why are you surprised when you don't even know the particulars of the offence?

 

Regardless of the judges mood, fines of such magnitude are rarely given to individuals unless they've stolen from their employer, committed benefit fraud or the fine includes a large degree of compensation.

 

Maybe the lady in question can enlighten us further......

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I do not wish to go into details of the offence. I'm not proud of what I've done, but was in a very violent relationship at the time & felt like I had no choice but to do what I done. I'm not trying to pass the buck at all. At the end of the day, I done wrong & now I have to pay for it. I hope people can understand my reasons for not wanting to go into details. I just need advice on how to sort the issue.

 

I've been reading through the forum & have seen that people have said in the past that if it's to do with magistrates then they do have the right to force entry. Is this correct??? Is this where Statutory Notice comes into it?

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Do enforcement officers have the power to arrest people? I'm getting really worried about this now :(

 

YES but only if they are in possession of an arrest warrant from HMCS. As previous attempts to get payment have failed the Distress Warrant may have been 'upgraded' to an Arrest Warrant now.

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I've had an email back from the court this morning asking for account & case numbers as I stupidly forgot to include them in yesterdays email. I've told them that I can resume payments of £10 per week from next week & I've had someone offer to take out a loan on my behalf for the lump sum. The court should accept this shouldn't they?

 

No one has been back so far today, would the court have put a hold on it since I've got in touch with them?

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I've had an email back from the court this morning asking for account & case numbers as I stupidly forgot to include them in yesterdays email. I've told them that I can resume payments of £10 per week from next week & I've had someone offer to take out a loan on my behalf for the lump sum. The court should accept this shouldn't they?

 

Not necessarily.

 

But here's my 2 penn'orth...

 

If you have a realistic chance of paying it all off, I'd do that.

 

Organise a care of address for letters and go round to see Citizens Advice as HC suggested, that way you can get them involved without too much risk of an early knock on the door where you sleep, try to get in contact with the court that way.

 

Whatever you did, and whyever you did it, you are certainly paying for it now...:)

 

But this will pass, you will eventually pay it and it will just be a bad memory.

 

Good luck,

 

Chris.

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Thank you Chris. I've spoken to someone at my local CAB & was told that I'd be better off making an appointment to speak to someone so I've booked that for Monday morning.

 

Haven't had an email back from the court yet but it was a 24 hour gap between my first email & their response so hopefully I'll hear something today. I've given them my contact number, email address (obviously) & a postal address.

 

Hopefully I won't hear of people knocking at my previous addresses over the weekend while I'm waiting for Monday!

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