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Hi everyone,

 

I was looking for some help in relation to a Parking Charge Notice I received from a company called Parking Eye. The notice states that I was in the FREE Morrison's car park for 44 minutes longer than I should have been despite me not noticing any signs stating the maximum limit (but then I could have missed them). Despite being in a 1st class pre paid envelope I received the notice quite a while after the offence took place.

 

The notice states that 'On the specified date, you were the registered owner, keeper or hirer of the vehicle of the vehicle in question. As such, you are responsible to ensure that the terms and conditions for parking, as set down and clearly displayed in the car park, are complied with.'

 

Now I know that this is not the case as this responsibility falls to the driver. The company then sent me a letter stating that I would receive a discounted rate of £40 if I paid within '4 days of this notification' sent on the 19th of January 2009 but received on the 21st Jan - again I find this unfair. This second notice also included very blurry photos in which you cannot see the face of the driver clearly or even the number plate (although they included a close up of the num plate below the pic).

 

I have read a few posts on various websites that state you should not pay these notices as they are unlawful, a [problem] and they tend to just go away if you ignore them. Is this true??? I am worried that if I dont pay and try this I will eventually be forced to pay an extortionate amount to these jokers.

 

Can anybody offer me any advice please????? Today is the last day for the reduced fee of £40. Also if I do not pay and they do not proceed or follow up, does this effect my credit rating??

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

 

Thanks!

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Hello RyRy. first of all, dont worry about it, its just an invoice for an extortionate ammount of money that they have no legal right to collect. Keep the letters from them 'just in case'. Next, ignore it. You will get more letters and demands and notification of court action. Ignore these also. They cant prove who was driving, and you dont have to tell them who was. They wont go to court. Dont contact them in any way, if you do, they will have 'hooked' you. Next, put the kettle on and relax.

Regards, jed

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Parking Eye are well known. You're safe to ignore them.

 

Credit rating is only affected *if* they take you to court (no chance) *and* you lose *and* you still don't pay.

 

Write to Morrisons though and express your disgust. The more people who complain, the more likely Morrisons are to ditch them.

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As the above advice states-ignore. The invoice that you have been sent should not trouble you. From personal experience if you tried to appeal it would be immediately rejected as the appeals process is done in house. After this you may recieve a few nasty letters from a DCA-again ignore.

Please do write to Morrisons however. As Al27 states, the more that complain they may actually do something about it

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DD Wales what happened with you? After you appealed did you pay up? Did you hear from them again???

 

It was just the fact it states PARKING CHARGE NOTICE rather than invoice but I guess this is them trying to be 'official'.

 

As I said they do have picture evidence but it isn't very clear and you can barely see the number plate although they have zoomed in and blown it up below each pic.

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No. After the appeal-(which i foolishly did before finding CAG) i took the advice from the people on here and paid nothing. What they said would happen did happen. I recieved 2 letters from a DCA telling me i had 7 days to pay firstly £100 then 2 weeks later £150!! That was 6 months ago.... The parking charge notice (invoice) is made to look official but there lies the [problem]. For those who do not have the knowledge of PPC's and DCA's it can seem quite frightening but thats just scare tactics on thier part on those who do not understand the law in these matters. As for the picture evidence again do not worry. If you have any further concerns post the invoice on this thread (washed of your details) and the good people on here could comment further and lessen your worries.

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Thanks DD Wales. I feel more at ease but as you say it can feel worrying. Last thing I want are CCJs or even more expensive fines! Lucky I remembered about this site today - was just going to pay it.

 

How would I go about posting something up on here though?? Just insert it as an image?

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On the specified date, you were the registered owner, keeper or hirer of the vehicle of the vehicle in question. As such, you are responsible to ensure that the terms and conditions for parking, as set down and clearly displayed in the car park, are complied with.

 

This statement of their's is completely fraudulant and entirely illegal. You can rest assured they will go nowhere near a court to try and substantiate such a claim.

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Good.:D

To post on here you can upload (via scanner or phone etc) from Photobucket for example and follow the instructions. Its very simple. When you compose your next response add the link to the page. If your still not sure have a look in the guide on the main page of CAG or take a look at one of the many threads on here to see how it works;)

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This statement of their's is completely fraudulant and entirely illegal. You can rest assured they will go nowhere near a court to try and substantiate such a claim.

 

Really? So I am 100% secure in that sense.....

 

As Long as if it comes to it I have a legal foot to stand on then I will hold my ground....

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They do correct themselves and say 'Date of Offence' on the second letter. That make any difference?

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"offence" makes it worse - for them not you. be reassured.

Not being funny guys but the scan has far too much info on it. The photos and the ref number there together with your first post.

I would advise removing the ticket, we dont need to see it.

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Not being funny guys but the scan has far too much info on it. The photos and the ref number there together with your first post.

I would advise removing the ticket, we dont need to see it.

Infact for future ref: if there are tickets with photo's and people insist on scanning ,the photo's should be removed along with bar codes, dates times and ref numbers. Just incase we have a troll.

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Infact for future ref: if there are tickets with photo's these should be removed along with bar codes, dates times and ref numbers. Just incase we have a troll.

 

Cheers - just wanted to make sure you made an informed judgement based on all the information. I've taken them down now!

 

Thanks guys.

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No problem. It is always best to be fully informed before making any decisions and there are plenty of people on here that will help you as best possible. As the stickie suggests though be careful when posting anything as PPC's/DCA's monitor this site and a few members on here are actually from PPC's and DCA's

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