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    • Thank you again Emmzzi for your insight. Not only did I do the work, but as a maths tutor delivering financial literacy workshops under the Govt Multiply project, the college were paid £400 for each student I recruited, which makes it an even bigger kick in the teeth! I spoke to Citizens Advice Bureau on Friday who advised me to go back to ACAS for advice and assistance, as ACAS are the experts in employment matters. They did also mention small claims court, as being more straightforward and less complex, but surely their solicitor would just contest this and I would lose the £80 court fee? If I did submit a claim through the small claims court, would I just leave the employment tribunal running until the outcome? The deadline for me to submit my schedule of loss is tomorrow, so I will submit today so that they cannot hold me in breach.
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    • Thanks for this update. Let's not if you have any more difficulty – in particular if you have difficulty getting paid back from the purchaser. We can help you either against the parcel delivery courier or against the purchaser
    • I'm still waiting for them to kick out sunak and bring Johnson truss and farage in late as it is - as an act of desperation. Tossuss and some others as well as those who were (alleged) brokering a farage ennoblement deal are promoting it aren't they?
    • Tories realise that they are likely to be in opposition for 10 years or more. And for those who lose their seats, they will be looking for new employment.  Sunak is like an accountant, suddenly put into a leadership role, but without the intelligence required to think in a multi dimensional way. 
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My daughter opened an Additions account via the inernet and filled the forms out and lied about her age. She filled the form out as though she was 18 yet she was only 16 at the time. Nobody bothered to check to see if her decalation of age was true or not.

She has allowed the account to fall into debt due to her not being employed and no income. She has informed them that she lied about her age and they have requested a copy of her birth certificate and she has been told that it will either result in the account being closed or taken to court.

They are still adding interest and £12 per letter to the account.

I know she has commited fraud with regard to her lies about her age, but how does she stand with regard to the situation in general?

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Hi, sorry I cant help on the age issue, but just as a thought, they would have done a credit check with the credit reference agencies and be reporting the monthly balance to them. Maybe an idea would be to get a copy from the cras. Im also not sure if they are allowed to hold data of someone who is not 18 yet. I think also the debt might be unenforceable but I think littlewoods could report her for fraud.

 

A more knowledgable person will be along to clarify.

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