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    • god they've got at you haven't they. told you all the usual utter BS. a CCJ vanishes from your credit file on it's 6th B'Day regardless to being paid off or not or paying or not. same with any debt with a registered defaulted date - it vanishes from your file on the DN's 6th B'day regardless. creditfix are Knightsbridge, (they renamed) there are 100's of threads here on Knightsbridge, if i remember rightly 2 of the directors of a certain very big IVA provider were struck off for embezzling £1m's out of debtors. pers i'd stop paying now.  end of . just ignore them all. 99% of your debts are to utterly powerless DCA's and probably were never owed in the first place only goes to firm up my belief from post one..you got had blind. its very easy to deal with the debts even those with CCJ's. can you copy and paste what you credit file says regarding the IVA please?   
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    • Sorry I meant credit fix - I really wish I'd known this before - kicking myself right now  If they come back to me asking for more money I'll cancel it and start trying to deal with the debt myself let's see what they say  Feeling tempted to cancel it now but scared that some of the debts will do more CCJ's on me and I'll have to wait 6 years again.  2 of the CCJ come of this year and then I'll only have the iva in credit file - effectively if I'd have not took out the iva in 2021 I'd have clear score by now - but then again would I because I would have been hounded the last 3 years, as bad as it is it's saves me lots of headaches whilst my debt was still within the 6 year mark.  I think most of them are near there but in all honesty no point chasing them if I do cancel iva I'd jjst wait for the ones who contact me and then start the relevant letter process on them.  Of over 6 years easy if not still possible to write off. My true victory would be having the iva wiped off my credit file as mis sold or something that way I Don't have to wait till 2027 Other option is to fight back and ask for them to offer the creditors to accept payments so far and use the following method    Will your IVA firm agree to complete your IVA on the basic of funds paid to date? The Guidance lists a lot of factors to be considered in deciding whether a settlement on the basis of funds paid to date should be proposed. You should read the list. But that may not give you any feel for whether they apply to you or not. The following are my thoughts on when an IVA should be treated as settled, not failed. They assume that you have £75 or less to pay a month: if you would currently qualify for a Debt Relief Order, then your IVA should be settled now  There is no point in making your IVA fail and you have to apply for a DRO – it will not generate another penny for your creditors. If you are renting and owe less than £50,000, check the DRO criteria now and talk to National Debtline on 0808 808 4000 about whether you qualify. You may have been told at the start of your IVA that you aren’t eligible – still check now as the DRO criteria have changed, your situation has got worse, and some people were given incorrect information about DROs at the start. if you have no assets that would be realised in bankruptcy (eg a house with equity, car worth over £2000), then your IVA should be settled now Same as (1), there is no point in making you apply for bankruptcy after your IVA fails. if your only asset is a car that is worth less than £8000, then your IVA should be settled now A car that is worth say £5000 would normally be sold in bankruptcy and you would be given a small amount to buy a cheaper car. But your creditors would not get any benefit from this as the Insolvency Service takes the first £8000 raised to cover its own costs. if you have significant assets, the closer you are to the end of the IVA, the less reasonable it is to fail it If you have been paying your IVA for 4 years, you have done your best over a long period. It isn’t your fault you can no longer continue. The fact you may have had equity to release isn’t relevant as that simply isn’t going to be possible. if your situation will clearly improve soon, then it’s unlikely your IVA will be settled I mean real improvements, not hoping that prices fall. If I can get them to accept payment to date or threaten with cancellation hopefully they may accept it -  Other option is to try and borrow money and pay make a full and final offer  Or I can just ignore and hope for the best which I'm very tempted to do especially if they respond to my review with bullying tactics despite me being skint as a fart with no mortgage as renting  It's so stressful but I've just checked the iva agreement from 2021 and it's Cabot 2 accounts Lowell about 5 accounts and then lots of repeats of the same debt with for example zopa and Cabot same amount listed twice -  also loyyds banks but I'm sure that's older than 6 years and not on credit file anyway  If I can somehow remove the iva from my credit file I'd be happy 
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Preparing to make a claim - DPA letter sent


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First off, I'd like to say a hearty 'thanks and well done' to Bankfodder, Dave and all the Mod's here. This is a truelly fantastic site and its nice to see a group of like-minded people standing up for what is right and not letting these corrupt banks get away with daylight robbery.

 

In my specific instance, Natwest have been stinging my two Current accounts for charges for the last 8 years or so now - shame we can only claim for 6 years worth! I have no idea how much they have taken but would be very suprised if it was under £1000 - so lets start getting it back!

 

Yesterday I sent my DPA request to Mr Lyons so the process is in motion. As far as I can see there is only one case against Natwest in the 'Litigation in Process' forum but I am not sure if that is due to Natwest settling disputes before that stage or if its because no one has gotten that far in their claims yet? Either way, lets make sure we keep this forum updated with our individual cases so that other members can use our experiences / updates as guidance in their own claims.

 

Anyway, wish me luck!

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I've been told about all the actions going on against the banks recently and this entrigued me. As a young woman on a rather small income I have still been fleeced time and time again by Natwest and have several times had my bank acocunt completely emptied by charges they have drawn up. I desperately want to pursue a case aginst the bank but can't find a link on this website telling me how to get started and what's the best way of going about it. If you are able to offer any advice I would be really grateful. Thank you and hope to hear from you soon. Emma :)

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I'm amazed that you can't find any guidance on this site. Have you actually tried reading around at all?

Also, could you start your own thread please rather than hijack someone else's.

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Received a response from my DPA request from Joyce Tudor (sent the request to Mr Lyons - perhaps he's having to recruit extra staff to cover all these requests...).

 

Shes basically told me that i can have the statements for £5 or the SAR for £10, but that will NOT include bank statements. I need to reply saying 'the SAR please, but it MUST include bank statements' - anyone think of some good wording for me to use in this letter?

 

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I have another thread in this section 'My claim against Natwest'.

 

I had the same experience as you, where Natwest insisted the SAR didn't include statements. I've faxed a letter to them reminding them of their obligations and I'm awaiting a reply.

 

I've posted the full text of the letter I sent, it may be worth you taking a look and sending something similar.

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Received a response from my DPA request from Joyce Tudor (sent the request to Mr Lyons - perhaps he's having to recruit extra staff to cover all these requests...).

 

Shes basically told me that i can have the statements for £5 or the SAR for £10, but that will NOT include bank statements. I need to reply saying 'the SAR please, but it MUST include bank statements' - anyone think of some good wording for me to use in this letter?

 

Many thanks

 

Did you use the standard letter in the library? If so you will see that it asks for details of all charges, etc and notes of manual intervention. Alternatively, the Bank may send statements. There has been a lot of discussion in the Group as to whether statements are part of your data file - some banks contend that they are not. However, under a DPA request the bank must reveal the charges so you will get them, albeit in a different format to your bank statement.

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Cool, thanks for the advice guys.

 

@ RichardC - yeah, i used the standard format from the library.

 

@ Dazza12 - thanks - i'll check your post and if you don't mind hijack your text and put it in my response.

 

I'll be paying the full £10 to get the SAR disclosure - i just don't want sneaky natwest leaving any info off!

 

thanks again guys

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Hi what has happened since? I basically contacted Natwest to get my statements and they told me i have to pay £5 - for every 6 months! :shock: lol

 

I will be sending them the template from the library, but what has happened with you since you did this?

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Since i sent the second letter (with the cheque for £10 and telling them that statements ARE included in a DPA) i have heard nothing - but then that was only yesterday! will keep this thread updated when i hear anything.

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Well, got my two lots of statements through (2 accounts) and totalled up my claim. Off the top of my head its about £3200 which to little old me is A LOT of money! even when i pay off my horrible £800 o/d that still leaves me with a nice return from the[edit], sorry, NatWest.

 

so first letter will be being sent tonight. and lets guess what the response i'll receive will be.....

 

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yesterday i received the standard response from Stuart Higley ("webelieve our fees are transparent and fair etc etc) in response to my initial letter for reclaim.

 

however, there is a line at the bottome that i THINK no one else has mentioned before. It reads:

 

"I am disappointed to note that you are contemplating legal action against the bank. Whilst I hope that you will feel able to reconsider, should you decide to go ahead, please ensure that any proceedings are served on our registered office address, which appears at the foot of this letter".

 

Has anyone else had this paragraph on their letter? it seems to me that a) they are encouraging me to take them to court and b) that they are trying to invonvenience me by serving the proceedings in London, and therefore maybe having to go to court in London rather than my native Bournemouth???

 

So, some advise please - what do people think about the last paragraph in the letter and what do people advise I do re: the proceedings? Registered office or local branch? (i have yet to send the letter before action however, so that may turn up some new stuff too, who knows with this bank!).

 

Any feedback at all would be most appreciated, as Natwest owes me over £3000 and i don't wanna muck up my claim in any way!

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It's been mentioned elsewhere that as the individual, the small claims case will automatically take place at your chosen court, unless the bank can prove that it would be impossible for them to attend that one. Unlikely, given how large an organisation they are.

DPA Letter received by NatWest 11/04/2006

DPA Request expires 21/05/2006

Statements received 15/05/2006

LBA sent 15/05/2006

 

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Right, well my Letter Before Action has been posted today - 14 days until claim time! I spelled out in no uncertain terms that the charges are not fair, reasonable or transparent with examples for each. I also spelled it out for them that if they settle now they will save themselves about £500 in court fees and interest. I know £500 is nothing to them, but hey, just giving them the option of sorting it out now and not waiting for court papers.

 

Will keep everyone updated if i get any response.

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Today i received a response from Stuart Higley in relation to my letter before action. Unsuprisingly, it was another 'get lost' letter but i'll post it here so people can judge his / the banks response:

 

"Thank you for your letter of xxxx. I am sorry that you remain unhappy after my letter of xxxx had explained the banks position.

 

Regrettably there is little that i can add contructively to what I have already outlined. The various charges that we make are flat fee's and remain the same irrespective of the face value of an offending item essentially because the amount of work involved with controlling an unauthorised overdraft is the same.

 

We are fully aware of the opinion of the OFT which at the present time relates only to credit card charges and we have until 31 May 06 to respond to them. Hopefully I can reassure you that the bank is taking this matter very seriously and our lawyers are involved in all developments.

 

That said, our position remains unchanged from when I last wrote and I am genuinely sorry that you intend to take legal action against us. Purely as a reminder, please ensure any papers are served on our registered office address, quoted below.

 

Thank you again for writing

 

Stuart Higley"

 

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What a load of nonsense! But anyway, what do people suggest. Should i simply wait for the 14 days notice of the letter before action to expire and then proceed with court action or is it worth me replying to his letter first?

 

thanks guys.

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well, over a month since i received my copy of bank statements as part of my DPA request and despite the fact my LBA has already been sent, yesterday i received through the post a whole bundle of random screen prints from Natwest, again apparantly as part of my DPA. It only covers stuff from 1997 - 2002 though and to be honest seems totally irrelevant to my claim. I think they are trying to confuse me again!

 

It basically seems that its a system generated note each time they sent me a letter saying i was over my O/D limit etc. has anyone else received this kind of thing from Natwest as part of their DPA / SAR disclosure? Does it serve a purpose? As far as i can tell it won't affect my claim in the slightest, just don't want to be missing something important.

 

Incidently i recieved that precisely 40 days after my DPA request. Coincidence?

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