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    • further polished WS using above suggestions and also included couple of more modifications highlighted in orange are those ok to include?   Background   1.1  The Defendant received the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) on the 06th of January 2020 following the vehicle being parked at Arla Old Dairy, South Ruislip on the 05th of December 2019.   Unfair PCN   2.1  On 19th December 2023 the Defendant sent the Claimant's solicitors a CPR request.  As shown in Exhibit 1 (pages 7-13) sent by the solicitors the signage displayed in their evidence clearly shows a £60.00 parking charge notice (which will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days of issue).  2.2  Yet the PCN sent by the Claimant is for a £100.00 parking charge notice (reduced to £60 if paid within 30 days of issue).   2.3        The Claimant relies on signage to create a contract.  It is unlawful for the Claimant to write that the charge is £60 on their signs and then send demands for £100.    2.4        The unlawful £100 charge is also the basis for the Claimant's Particulars of Claim.  No Locus Standi  3.1  I do not believe a contract with the landowner, that is provided following the defendant’s CPR request, gives MET Parking Services a right to bring claims in their own name. Definition of “Relevant contract” from the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4,  2 [1] means a contract Including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land between the driver and a person who is-   (a) the owner or occupier of the land; or   (b) Authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land. According to https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/46/section/44   For a contract to be valid, it requires a director from each company to sign and then two independent witnesses must confirm those signatures.   3.2  The Defendant requested to see such a contract in the CPR request.  The fact that no contract has been produced with the witness signatures present means the contract has not been validly executed. Therefore, there can be no contract established between MET Parking Services and the motorist. Even if “Parking in Electric Bay” could form a contract (which it cannot), it is immaterial. There is no valid contract.  Illegal Conduct – No Contract Formed   4.1 At the time of writing, the Claimant has failed to provide the following, in response to the CPR request from myself.   4.2        The legal contract between the Claimant and the landowner (which in this case is Standard Life Investments UK) to provide evidence that there is an agreement in place with landowner with the necessary authority to issue parking charge notices and to pursue payment by means of litigation.   4.3 Proof of planning permission granted for signage etc under the Town and country Planning Act 1990. Lack of planning permission is a criminal offence under this Act and no contract can be formed where criminality is involved.   4.4        I also do not believe the claimant possesses these documents.   No Keeper Liability   5.1        The defendant was not the driver at the time and date mentioned in the PCN and the claimant has not established keeper liability under schedule 4 of the PoFA 2012. In this matter, the defendant puts it to the claimant to produce strict proof as to who was driving at the time.   5.2 The claimant in their Notice To Keeper also failed to comply with PoFA 2012 Schedule 4 section 9[2][f] while mentioning “the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge as remains unpaid” where they did not include statement “(if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met)”.     5.3         The claimant did not mention parking period, times on the photographs are separate from the PCN and in any case are that arrival and departure times not the parking period since their times include driving to and from the parking space as a minimum and can include extra time to allow pedestrians and other vehicles to pass in front.    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012   The notice must -   (a) specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;  22. In the persuasive judgement K4GF167G - Premier Park Ltd v Mr Mathur - Horsham County Court – 5 January 2024 it was on this very point that the judge dismissed this claim.  5.4  A the PCN does not comply with the Act the Defendant as keeper is not liable.  No Breach of Contract   6.1       No breach of contract occurred because the PCN and contract provided as part of the defendant’s CPR request shows different post code, PCN shows HA4 0EY while contract shows HA4 0FY. According to PCN defendant parked on HA4 0EY which does not appear to be subject to the postcode covered by the contract.  6.2         The entrance sign does not mention anything about there being other terms inside the car park so does not offer a contract which makes it only an offer to treat,  Interest  7.1  It is unreasonable for the Claimant to delay litigation for  Double Recovery   7.2  The claim is littered with made-up charges.  7.3  As noted above, the Claimant's signs state a £60 charge yet their PCN is for £100.  7.4  As well as the £100 parking charge, the Claimant seeks recovery of an additional £70.  This is simply a poor attempt to circumvent the legal costs cap at small claims.  7.5 Since 2019, many County Courts have considered claims in excess of £100 to be an abuse of process leading to them being struck out ab initio. An example, in the Caernarfon Court in VCS v Davies, case No. FTQZ4W28 on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated “Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones- Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates (...) in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued, he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared (…) the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.”  7.6 In Claim Nos. F0DP806M and F0DP201T, District Judge Taylor echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of District Judge Grand, stating ''It is ordered that the claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverabl15e under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in Parking Eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4)) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''  7.7 In the persuasive case of G4QZ465V - Excel Parking Services Ltd v Wilkinson – Bradford County Court -2 July 2020 (Exhibit 4) the judge had decided that Excel had won. However, due to Excel adding on the £60 the Judge dismissed the case.  7.8        The addition of costs not previously specified on signage are also in breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Schedule 2, specifically paras 6, 10 and 14.   7.9        It is the Defendant’s position that the Claimant in this case has knowingly submitted inflated costs and thus the entire claim should be similarly struck out in accordance with Civil Procedure Rule 3.3(4).   In Conclusion   8.1        I invite the court to dismiss the claim.  Statement of Truth  I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.   
    • Well the difference is that in all our other cases It was Kev who was trying to entrap the motorist so sticking two fingers up to him and daring him to try court was from a position of strength. In your case, sorry, you made a mistake so you're not in the position of strength.  I've looked on Google Maps and the signs are few & far between as per Kev's MO, but there is an entrance sign saying "Pay & Display" (and you've admitted in writing that you knew you had to pay) and the signs by the payment machines do say "Sea View Car Park" (and you've admitted in writing you paid the wrong car park ... and maybe outed yourself as the driver). Something I missed in my previous post is that the LoC is only for one ticket, not two. Sorry, but it's impossible to definitively advise what to so. Personally I'd probably gamble on Kev being a serial bottler of court and reply with a snotty letter ridiculing the signage (given you mentioned the signage in your appeal) - but it is a gamble.  
    • No! What has happened is that your pix were up-to-date: 5 hours' maximum stay and £100 PCN. The lazy solicitors have sent ancient pictures: 4 hours' maximum stay and £60 PCN. Don't let on!  Let them be hoisted by their own lazy petard in the court hearing (if they don't bottle before).
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Thanks m8 for the info so basicaly they just cant through out an SD on a technicality such as service as in by post not hand is that correct.I was just looking at the case law on these cases and wondered what it ment in laymans terms.

Also thanks for your help in this case m8 and 42 mans.

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Well just got back from court and i WON .They didnt show up the judge noted that (which was a surprise not) and went straight on to the letter they sent saying that they were willing for the set a side but no costs.Went through my bit but to be honest most of it was on the costs i had sent in.Basiclay he halfed it 1 day off work 9 hours research said about a solicitor would take but realised i wasnt and chuckled and said hed take that into account so came away with a summary order of 200 pound to be payed within 14 days but he did say they could challenge that if they so wanted as its there right.After being very nervous, good job the wife was there to prompt me, turned out well.I did mention this web site to him and what we do here and he nooded as if he knew.So im relieved now that thats over with thanks all for your help in this matter and i will be sticking around here as its a great site. Special thanks to X20 and 42man great lads thanks:D

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Yeah walking around in a daze after tbh heart was in my mouth but it does feel good like sticking your fingers up at them tbh lol.Will celabrate when the monies come through and give something to this site as i couldnt have done it with out the peoples help on here.

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Thanks m8 and looks good that WON part.I will put in a complaint with the of t and fos.Would the tc be there local one or is it all under one now but will do that tomorrow need to relax a bit first lol and working this afternoon unless i book a day off lol,but thanks again for your help.:D

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He was quiet willing to hand out the costs worked it all out but not the full amount was trying to be fair tbh.I had put close to 400 pound in costs but half is good.Anything for the stress and worry over the last few months.

What i did notice was most of the cases there were for reposseion of homes felt sorry for the people there wouldnt like to go through that.(cant spell for chips)

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What i did notice was most of the cases there were for reposseion of homes felt sorry for the people there wouldnt like to go through that

 

Been there done that, got the TShirt; must admit it was quite nerve racking, but the judge I had ripped into the mortgage lenders solicitor with a right vengence, and told him to accept my proposals for paying off the arrears, and why was it in front of him

 

Then told me to stop being an "Idiot" and to prioritise my debts:D, so I did and git involved with all the nice DCA's and their evil ways

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What makes me mad is the real lack of a supervising body that will actualy do anything against these companies.They must have a load of complaints about these companies but from what the tactics they use they are basicaly doing what they want with trying to ruin ppls lives with stress and worry.Thats what realy makes me made and i told the judge that these SDs are just scare tactics as its obvious they never intended(as with others cases) to take the maters further along the insolvensey route as they know they will payout for it but wouldnt not be priority creditors.As they are in it for profit the loss of monies is not what they want but they have today.:D

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Good day to you all just phoned Trading Standards on this mater to get the ball rolling on the complaints about CQ.Was told its a possible breach of unfair trading regs 2008 and a consumer protection issue and will be past to my local trading standards office.Also told to contact the OFT with it in writing.So the ball is rolling.If i get anymore threating letters the i will be clasing it as harresment now as i seam it to be over and may take court action again against them over this.

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The FOS have told me that for them to look at cap quest i would have to complain to CQ through there complaints procedure first.They would have 8 weeks to look at the complaint and then if i was not happy with the out come then they will look at it.HMMM would they realy do anything i think not (CQ that is) as complaints are probable going on and they are still sending out these SD for statute barred debts and other unenforceable debts.

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Thanks for moving this thread to the won sectiom.I will shall i contact them and ask where to make to complaint to and who or just write.Writting maybe the best answer after they have sent my costs maybe lol:)

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Had confermation of the set a side from the court and the cost summary also.A question is the 14 days they have to appeal against it or pay it working days or as just 14 days including the weekends as the 14 are up on the on the 9th.

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Hi well nothing in the post today there last day is tomorrow so i contacted the court to ask what to do if nothing shows, quiet funny in a weired way, but the lady on the phone was not sure tbh as not paying she hadnt heard of before.I know they have tomorrow but if they dont then i have to send in a letter on wednesday saying that i havent received anything for my costs and it will go in front of a judge.So waiting to see what tomorrow brings now.

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Thanks m8 yes been reading that thread and looks like i will have to go down that route as i havent had anything in the post today and the court said now that once it has been awarded it is up to me then which way to go.They are sending out a booklet and forms for me to look at and it will cost me more so will hopefully get this back from them aswell not sure how long this process will take.Was thinking should i phone cq on this or just go down the court enforcement route.They have still got a few days as this will take sometime i think to set up and xmas post but as i received this last wednesday ,and looking at tiglets thread, they have had the ime to send it out.

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I would give them a call - you may save yourself some money - it's possible they haven't received it due to the Christmas post.

All help is merely my opinion only - please seek legal advice if you need to as I am only qualified in SEN law.

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I would just phone the legal department and ask if they have received the order from the court and if they have sent the cheque.

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All help is merely my opinion only - please seek legal advice if you need to as I am only qualified in SEN law.

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