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If you need to add something to this thread then   Please click the "Report " link   at the bottom of one of the posts.   If you want to post a new story then Please Start your own new thread That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help    Thanks   citizenB Posted March 4, 2014 #1   The questionnaires below provide important information which will allow us to help you. In order to use them, you will have to copy them into your own post and then give us the answers – preferably in red below each question. You can start by overwriting the prompt: "Give answer here" below each question – and your responses should automatically appear in red   Thank you +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++   You have received a claim form.   firstly - read all the posts in this thread FIRST...   then copy this first msg to your thread - and put your answer after each question   In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us]     Which Court have you received the claim from ? Name County Court   MCOL Northampton N1 ? Manual Claim CCMCC (Salford) ? New beta WWW.MONEYCLAIMS.SERVICE.GOV.UK ?   If possible please scan redact and upload a full page copy of page 1 of the claim form. (not the response page or AOS)     Name of the Claimant ? Give answer here   How many defendant's  joint or self ? Give answer here   Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to. Give answer here   ^^^^^ NOTE : WHEN CALCULATING THE TIMELINE - PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THE DATE ON THE CLAIMFORM IS ONE IN THE COUNT [example: Issue date 01.03.2014 + 19 days (5 days for service + 14 days to acknowledge) = 19.03.2014 + 14 days to submit defence = 02.04.2014] = 33 days in total   Date of issue XX + 19 days ( 5 day for service + 14 days to acknowledge) = XX + 14 days to submit defence = XX (33 days in total)  if your defence filing date falls on a W/End, you must file by friday @4PM     Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim? Please type out their particulars of claim in full (verbatim) less any identifiable data and round the amounts up/down. state how many digits the account number has.. Give answer here   What is the total value of the claim? Give answer here   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Give answer here   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? Give answer here   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? Give answer here Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Give answer here   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? Give answer here   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Give answer here   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Give answer here   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Give answer here   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Give answer here   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Give answer here   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Give answer here   Why did you cease payments? Give answer here   What was the date of your last payment? Give answer here   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? Give answer here   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Give answer here   What you need to do now.   Answer the questions above   If you have not already done so – send a CCA request to the claimant for a copy of your agreement (If Applicable) (except for Overdraft/ Mobile/Telephone accounts)   Send a CPR31.14 request to the solicitor named on the claim form for copies of documents mentioned/implied within the claim form. There are two different versions - one for Loans/Credit cards the other for Current accounts   Request 1 - Loans/Credit Cards     Request 2 - Current Accounts     You may use a CPR part 18 request for any other information (not request documents) that you might require in order to defend yourself. Please note that CPR 18 is specifically for Fast Track claims and although technically the claim has yet to be allocated to a track the claimant may refuse to comply for this reason.   If you require CPR Part 18 - this will need to be drafted specifically.   If you are not planning on defending for one reason or another – then you will need to complete an Income and Expenditure form and contact the Solicitor with your proposal. The N9a is already enclosed in the claim pack for Admittance which should be sent to the solicitor named on the claim form   If you are considering making a partial admittance N9b must be completed and returned to the court. Please note in most cases a partial admittance will result in an automatic CCJ for the amount admitted.   You have received a Claim - What you need to do.pdf1.33 MB · 242 downloads     Before Printing the PDF TIP   If you DO NOT wish to print Page 1 (Cover Page) of the PDF, please ensure to do the following:   Ensure you go to your Printer Settings and set it to 'Print from Page 2' (this way Page 1 (Cover Page) should not print out).   Note: This will save you Ink & Paper     Bookmark   Report 3 weeks later...   AndyOrch Posted March 20, 2014 #2   Once you receive a Court Summons N1   As a defendant in a small claims case it is important that you act quickly and do not ignore the claim form when it arrives. Remember, the claim will proceed anyway even if you don’t respond. If the claim goes against you, it will be very difficult to make a counter claim as you didn’t respond to the initial small claim.   You may be unaware that you are the defendant in a small claims case that a Creditor has bought against you. When the small claims form arrives follow these initial steps:   1: Read the Form Carefully   The detail about the claim that is being bought against you will be in the ‘particulars of claim’ section. If this section isn't completed, or has the words ‘particulars of claim to follow’ take no action now and wait until you are sent details of the claim against you. You may want to consult a lawyer at this stage.   2: Respond in Time   It’s vitally important that you respond to the claim for you have been sent. Remember that there is a 19 day (5 +14) time limit on this to acknowledge the claim.You must submit before the 19 days are up, so post your response with plenty of time.If your intention is to defend the claim in full you get a further 14 days to submit your response ...so 33 days in total.   3: Talk to the Claimant   Just because a small claim has been bought against you and a claim form issued, this doesn’t mean you are not allowed to contact the claimant directly. In fact the court encourages you to try and settle the claim without the need for a court appearance. So, try and resolve your dispute directly with the claimant if you can.   Not Responding to a Small Claim   If you ignore the small claims form when it arrives this can have an adverse impact on your financial status. The court will continue with the small claims lawsuit that is being bought against you even in your absence as this is a legal requirement. When the small claim is processed you will be sent a bill showing the amount you owe and any additional costs. The small claims against you is a legal process that will be recorded on the Register of Judgements, Orders and Fines. This information is used to check your credit, so could have a negative impact when you next apply for any credit. To avoid damaging your credit rating reply to your small claims docket as soon as you can.   How to Respond to Your Small Claims Form   When you received your form from the court you will also have been sent a response pack. In this pack you will see the option that are open to you. These include:   • A dispute claim form. You can use this form if you do not agree that you are liable for the small claim being bought against you and wish to submit a Defence. • Details about how to pay the amount being claimed from you. • Details about how to admit to part of the small claim against you, and how you can ask the claimant for more time to pay.   There are Two Types of Small Claims:   Fixed Amounts:   If the claim against you is for a fixed amount of money your response pack will contain three forms. Form N9 (acknowledgement of Service), form N9A (admission form) and N9B (defence and counterclaim form).   Unspecified Amounts:   If the amount being claimed is unspecified you will be sent forms N9 and N9C (admission form) and N9D (defence and counterclaim form). It is vital that you read the accompanying explanatory notes before choosing which form to send back.   Paying the Small Claim   If you want to make full payment of the amount being claimed against you this amount will be shown on the claim for you have been sent, and will also have details about where to send the money. Don’t forget, this must be done within the 14 day time limit or your case will proceed to the next stage.   In some instances you would like to pay, but need more time, you can give details about the delay you would like on form N9A, which should be in your response pack. It’s also a good idea to read leaflet EX309: The Defendant Admits by claim as this gives more details on this aspect of your case when fixed amounts of money are involved. Leaflet EX308 gives details of cases when unspecified amounts are being claimed against you.   Also please read forms EX326 and EX160A   How to Defend a Claim Against You   Disputed claims are handled by filling in the appropriate form from your response pack. You have three choices: Form N9, N9B or N9D. Read the note accompanying each form carefully to ensure you completely correctly. Pay special attention to the allegations raised on the form. If you don’t respond to each the court will assume you are admitting guilt. Edited April 10, 2014 by stu007 Updated PDF added    1   Bookmark   Report 2 months later...   citizenB   Posted June 5, 2014 #3   PLEASE NOTE - WARNING   Once you have received your claim form - the Court timetable comes into force. Not that of the creditor or claimant. If you have requested information with them after the claim has been issued - or have entered into discussion with them and they say something like "We will put this on hold for a period of time". You cannot and must not ignore the timetable from the court.   This thread should serve as an example   http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?416202&p=4547677#post4547677   The OP in the case above was in communication with the CAG Vodafone rep. A claim was issued during this time. The Rep in good faith said he would ask the Claimant to put things on hold.... they did not.. the OP ignored advice from caggers to continue with the court timetable and did not submit a defence. The claimaint obtained a Judgment by default. Edited June 5, 2014 by citizenB     Bookmark   Report 3 yr AndyOrch changed the title to You have received a Court Claim ISSUED IN ENGLAND & WALES What you need to do   style="text-align: center;">     Thread Locked because no one has posted on it for the last 3638 days. 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Just to let you know the Judge said the agreements were unenforceable because they were not signed by both parties :) However, he has stayed the case and reccommended mediation which he has said the other party must pay for if they want to pursue. If mediation fails the other party have to put together a proper POC with all original documents attached (which even the judge knows they haven't got). He said theirs was one of the worst put together cases he had ever seen and would take a full day in court to go through. He also said that the T & C's were not the ones that came with the original document and were made up! He had said his first thought was to strike out but that money is owed just no evidence of who the debtor is ie no notice of assignment so sent to mediation.

We recieved an invoice this a.m from the claimants solicitor and my hubby put this before the Judge who immediately said all costs from the claimant struck out then turned to my husband and asked had he lost any pay (which he had) so he awarded him lost pay :)

 

Thanks for everybodies help,

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Hi,

 

Well today we had our day in court and I think it all went reasonably well. The Judge said he had never seen such a badly put together claim. He said the T & C's were made up and not the originals and agreed the CCA was illegible indeed the only legible bit was the bit that says agreement not legal unless signed by the SLC which it was not so not enforceable! Also they have no NOA or DOA.

However, the judge said he believed this money was owed and was public money which slightly ranckles me given that he probably did his degree for nothing financed by my parents et al tax money! Anyway he has said he wants it sent for mediation and has stayed for 2 months. At the end of the 2 months if no agreement if the claimant wants to pursue they have to put together a proper POC with all original documents attached which even the judge knows they haven't got.

 

This a.m we recieved an invoice in the post from the claimants solicitors for almost £2000 my husband mentioned this to the Judge who was not impressed at all. He immediately struck out all costs from the claimant turned to hubby and asked if he had had time off work which he had and which he doesnt get paid for and ordered that the claimant pay hubbys lost wages! He also said mediation is expensive therefore the claimant must also pay for this! I wonder if we will hear anymore from the claimant?

 

The judge said what a very well put together case my hubby had so huge thanks to everybody especially Steve and Caro :p As soon as we get the costs awarded we will be making a donation to CAG (wish we could donate it all but he really did loose wages).

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Sounds like you had a really decent judge there. Great news!

 

I hope the mediation achieves something.

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I am wondering if they will even bother with mediation and drop their claim all together since the Judge has said they have to pay their own costs, our costs and mediation costs they will end up paying out more than their original claim and if mediation fails they cannot prove they bought any debt with my OH's name on it nor can they come up with a legally enforceable agreement. Will shall see - will keep you all informed :)

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It sounds like a serious win- make sure that the judge gets them to agree not to pass the debt on further, rather than they pass it on to another bunch of numpties so you have to go through all this again in six or twelve months!

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I agree with xray2. (Particularly if it is who I think it is). They wing this stuff into courts time and time again and in the past no-one has bothered turning up as until CAG no-one knew their rights. Now they are being challenged all over the place (DCAs in general) and in your case they will now have to make a decision and I too think they will discontinue. They could have tried mediating from the start. Eeejits.

It won't stop them winging it with someone else mind you as for every one they win I suspect they still get away with a whole lot more.

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That is the sad problem with all of the DCAs and all their "debts" though isn't it? For all the people who challenge them, asking for CCAs and to prove the debt, there are so many more who just pay them.

 

It makes me sick.

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Hi,

 

This Judge said he had just spent 15 years specialising as a Corporate Law judge so he knew his stuff I think :) I didn't go in with my OH and the numpties sent a local solicitor who looked about 10 years old and didn't seem very up on proceedings.

The Judge has left OH to appoint a Mediation company told him who to avoid explained the cheaper one's whilst good would not be able to deal with the complexeties of our case - so numpties get to pay large costs ;) The only sticking point for us is if mediation goes ahead how can we mediate with zero evidence these people even own any debt with my OH name on?? We have had no NOA, loan agreements are unenforceable and no DN?

 

Do we get written notification of what happened in court btw? As my OH left the court the solicitor for claimant went up to him and started trying to nobble him should we report this to the Judge or let sleeping dogs lie for now?

 

Thanks all :)

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They all try nobbling. It's just a very desperate attempt to get you to give in or possibly in this case agree without the mediation. This poor kid will have to report back to his "masters" with a very poor result. He will have been given the case a few hours before the hearing. Tough luck matey boy.

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Sounds like it wasn't too bad, and the Judge was basically on your side. Is the mediation with the DCA though, because if there's no valid agreement I don't see why you should need to go to mediation. Would your husband still be exempt from paying if it was with the student loans people due to income etc?

 

BTW I've merged your 2 threads to keep the whole of your case together.

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Nobbling how?

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Hi Caro,

 

The mediation is with the DCA and I must admit I am confused as to why my hubby should go. The judge even mentioned something about the loans going back to SLC but even if they do they will be subject to the Limitations Act. And to go back to SLC (assuming of course the SLC ever sold them in the first place and there is no evidence they did) would mean the SLC would have to buy them back! Then there is the matter that even the judge said the loan agreements submitted to the court were not enforceable. I can't see how mediation can work on this because as far as I can see without proof or enforceable loan agreements we have nothing to mediate on?

 

My OH would get a deferment under the SLC terms. However, in the past the SLC have denied them based on the fact that he has refused to submit what I earnt (at that time I was a student myself on loans!) and they made him give a full break down of what we had coming in and out and said they were also denying deferment based on the fact we were not making reduced payments to other creditors. (We still have that letter). If only we knew then what we know now ... suffice to say no further payments made and that was years ago. The next we know we have this firm taking us to court saying they own loans!

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God, that solicitor was a chancer- I would report that to the court as misrepresentation.

 

The only thing that pains me about considering going back to university is having to deal with SLC again. Plus I still have arrears so they won't give me a loan until I clear them off!

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Since I last posted my OH has recieved two letters from HSL, one a statement of account to which legal costs have been added despite the fact the judge said they were awarded NONE! The second is pretty intimidating and a gross misrepresntation of the facts. They are claiming the judge ordered my OH answer their statement of case - A LIE, they are also saying my PH admitted the debt - A LIE, and they are asking for their money!!!! How are we supposed to enter medition with tricksters like this? Can we go back to the judge with this even though the case is stayed for 2 months?

 

To be honest we never understood how mediation was going to work when even the judge said there was no legally enforceable agreement (and he said he felt what they had supplied was copied from something else - isn't that fraud??!!), or a notice of assignment. So given all that it was going to be difficult but the latest correspondence is just a gross misrepsentation and intimidating ie if you don't pay up this could cost you blah blah.

 

Another point OH was awarded small costs which we have yet to recieve, how do we go about that - small claims them :p

 

Any help gratefully recieved :)

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well peeps the saga continues! Still no mediation but they have applied for and successfully gained more time from the Court. They are also now saying that SLC have found signed original agreements. You can see these are recently signed even from the copies we have and one is dated the day after my hubby has dated his which would have been impossible as the university used to send off these agreements as job lots by post. We have requested these agreements be scienitifcally tested at our expense (unless any anomolies are discovered) and they have refused our request.

 

They have admitted they do not have a notice of assignment but have said they can provide a letter from the SLC that states they sold the loan but this is surely not good enough in law is it?

 

A further point is that they do not have copies of defaults, they said it is not usual custom for finance companies to keep copies - I thought this was a legal requirement? Furthermore, there have been 3 default's issued can they do this?

 

If anyone can help would be very grateful,

 

Thanks in advance

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Hi all. just signing in to give an update of this long running matter. Things have moved on somewhat since the last post. It's normally my partner who posts hear, so I'm taking my turn, please excuse a novice! We had a hearing in October. judge said honours case was a disgrace for several reasons i.e.

  • providing reams of documents the day before the hearing that they then wanted to rely on .
  • sending me a bill for solicitors fees of £2000.00 the day before the hearing (small claims case).
  • not providing original documents.
  • not complying with SARs

Judge said their behaviour was intimidatory.

He stayed case for 2 months for mediation, followed by a further month to allow honours to "get their house in order" and file full particulars of claim. He also noted that they have been put to strict proof.

Honours then applied for and were granted an additional stay up until end of December.

 

Mediation was a farce, allowing no comment on legal matters or financial matters other than the full amount owed!

 

A preliminary hearing has been set for next week.

 

Today (9 days before preliminary hearing) I have recieved from honours a particulars of claim which is far short of that required by original judge (more copies and templates of documents)

 

I think I should write quickly to the court informing them of all this and asking for case to be put aside. Any comments would be greatly appreciated.

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Sounds like they were lucky the case wasn't struck out first time round.

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