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    • Speaking of the reformatory boys, here they are with all of their supporters, some of whom traveled with them from miles away, all carefully crammed together and photographed to look like there were more than about 80 .. rather like Farages last rally with even fewer people crammed around what looked like an ice cream van or mobile tea bar ... Although a number in the crowd apparently thought they were at a vintage car rally as they appeared to be chanting 'crank-her'. A vintage Bentley must be out of view.   Is this all there is? Its less than the Tory candidate. - shut up and smile while they get a camera angle that looks better
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A Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi (200 P S) 4x4 Wildtrack  Double Cab Pickup 3200cc (Sep.2015) Registration No, ******* Chassis number ***************** (“The Vehicle”).  A copy of the agreement is attached   2.  The price of the goods was £15,995.00.  The Initial Rental was £8500.00.  The total charge for credit was £3575.;17 And the balance of £11,070.17 was payable by 59 equal consecutive monthly instalments of £187 63. payable on the 25th of each month.   3.  The following were expressed conditions of the set agreement,   Clause 8: Our Right to End this Agreement  8.1   Subject to sending you the notice as required by law, any of the following events will entitle us to end this Agreement: 8.1.2  You fail to pay the advance payment (if any) or any of the payments as specified on the front page of this agreement or any other sum payable under this Agreement. 8.1.3 If any of the information you have given us before entering into this Agreement or during the term of this Agreement was false 8.1.4 We consider, acting reasonably, that the goods may be in jeopardy or that our rights in the goods may otherwise be prejudiced. 8.1.5 If you die 8.1.6 If a bankruptcy petition is presented against you; if you petition for your own bankruptcy, or make a live arrangement with your creditors or call a meeting of them. 8. 1.7 If in Scotland, you become insolvent or sequestration or a receiver, judicial factor or trustee to be appointed over any of your estate, or effects or suffer an arrestment, charge attachment or other diligence to be issued or levied on any of your estate or effects or suffer any exercise, or threatened exercise of landlords hype hypothec 8.1.8 If you are a partnership, you are dissolved 8.1.9 If the goods are destroyed, lost, stolen and/or treated by the insurer as a total loss in response to an insurance claim. 8.1.10 If we reasonably believe any payment made to us in respect of this Agreement is a proceed of crime. 8.1.11 If steps are taken by us to terminate any other agreement which you have entered into with us.   Clause 9.  Effect of Us Terminating Agreement   9.1 If this Agreement terminates under clause 8 the following will apply 9.1.1 Subject to the rights given to you by law, you will no longer be entitled to possession of the goods and must return them to us to an address as we may reasonably specify, (removing or commencing the removal of any cherished plates) together with a V5 registration certificate, both sets of keys and a service record book. If you are unable or unwilling to return the goods to us then we shall collect the goods and we'll charge you in accordance with clause 10.3 9.1.2 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you for all payments and all other sums do under this agreement at the date of termination 9.1.3 We will sell the goods or public sale at the earliest opportunity once the goods are in a reasonable condition which includes a return of the items listed in clause 7.1.4 9.1.4 We will be entitled to immediate payment from you of the rest of the Total Amount Payable under this agreement less: ( a) A rebate for early settlement ias required by law which will be calculated and notified to you at the time of payment (b) The proceeds of sale of the goods (if any) after deduction of all costs associated with finding you and/or the goods, recovery, refurbishment and repair. Insurance, storage, sale, agents fees, cherished plate removal, replacement keys, costs associated with obtaining service history for the goods and in relation to obtaining a duplicate V5 registration certificate   4, The following are particulars required by Civil Procedure Rules. Rule 7.9 as set out in 7.1 and 7.2 of the associated Practice Direction entitled Hire Purchase Claims:-   a)     The agreement is dated 25 August 2022. And is between Moneybarn No1 Limited  and xxxxxxxxx under agreement number 756050. b)    The claimant was one of the original parties to the agreement. c)    The agreement is regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. d)    The goods claimed Ford Ranger 3.2 TDCi ( 200 PS) 4x4 Wildtrack Double Cab Pickup 3200 cc (Sep2015} Registration No ^^^^^^^ Chassis number ***************** e)     Thw total price of the goods £19570 f)     The paid up sum £1206 5 g)    The unpaid balance of the total price £7505 (to include charges) h)    A default notice was sent to the defendant on 20th February 2024 by Firrst class post i)      The date when the right to demand delivery of the goods accrued 14 March 2024 j)      The amount if any claimed as an alternative to delivery of the goods 7505 22 include charges ]= 5.  A the date of service of the notice the instalments were £562.89 in arrears. 6. By reason of the Termination of the Agreement by the notice, defendant became liable to pay the sum of £7502 7. The date of maturity the agreement is 24th August 2027. 8. Further or  alternative by reasons of  the Defendant breaches of the agreement by failing to pay the said instalments, the Defendant evinced an intention no longer to be bound by the Agreement and repudiated it by the said Notice the claimant accepted that repudiation 9. By reason of such repudiation the claimant has suffered loss and damage.   Total amount payable £19570 Less sum paid or in arrears by the date of repudiation £12064 97 Balance £7505 (to include charges.) ( The claimant will give credit if necessary for the value of the vehicle if recovered.)  The claimant therefore claims 1.    An order for delivery up of the vehicle 2.    The MoneyClaim to be adjourned generally with liberty to restore,  Upon restoration of the MoneyClaim following return or loss of the vehicle. the Claimant will ensure the pre action protocol for debt claims is followed. 3.    Pursuant to s 90 (1)  of the Consumer Credit Act 1974. An order that the Claimant and/or its agents may enter any premises in which the vehicle is situated in order to recover the vehicle should it not be returned by the Defendant 4.    further or alternatively damages 5.    costs.   Statement of truth The Claimant believes that the facts stated in these Particulars of Claim are true. The Claimant understands that the proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes or causes to be made a false statement in the document for verified by statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth. I am duly Authorised by the Claimant to sign these Particulars of Claim signed Dated 17th of April 2024   What is the total value of the claim? 7502   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? No   Never heard of this   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? n/a Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? No   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After  Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? In a garage  Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes  Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Original Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? n/a   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? They said sent but nor received   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? None seen   Why did you cease payments? Still Paying,   What was the date of your last payment? Yesterday  31st May 2024   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? Yes on 12 Feb 2024   What you need to do now.   Can't scan, will do via another means as you cant have jpg
    • Now that is an interesting article which adds afew perspective that I hadn't thought significant - but on reflection of the perspectives offered ... Now Starmer is no Blair, however 'blairite he may be perceived, but the Tories aren't tories and aren't even remotely liberal   The fast 'unannounced and unexpected election call from sunack may well be explained by the opinion linked that he hoped reform would be unprepared and effectively call a chunk of Farages largely empty bluster - making him look even more of a prat, leave scope for attacks on shabby reform candidates and mimimise core vote losses to reform - while throwing the 'middle ground' (relative) tories TO THE DOGS - and with the added bonus of likely pacifying his missu' desire to jogg off to sunny cal tout suite somewhat   thumb in the air - I expect about 140ish tory seats, but can hope for under a hundred Reform - got to admit the outside possibility of 1, maybe 2 seats with about 8% of the vote - but unlikely. I think projections of over 10% of the vote for reform is nudged and paid for speculation - but possible with the expected massive drives from Russian, Chinese and far right social media bot and troll prods targeting the gullible.
    • Commentary June 2024 WWW.ELECTORALCALCULUS.CO.UK Interesting article about just how bad it could be for the Tories.  Also Tories could be hoping on Reform not having candidates in many seats, as they were not ready.  
    • Even a Piers Morgan is an improvement and a gutless Farage Piers Morgan calls for second Brexit referendum WWW.THELONDONECONOMIC.COM Piers Morgan and Nigel Farage have faced off over Brexit and a second referendum in a heated reunion on BBC Question Time.   “Why don’t we have another referendum about Brexit?” he questioned. “I seem to remember when 2016 came around we were told there was going to be control of our borders and it was going to be economically beneficial to this country. And eight years later we have lost complete control of our borders… and economically it seems to have been a wilful act of self-harm.”   ... Piers missed off : after all somebody said a 48/52 decision would be "unfinished business" by a long way - was that person just bul lying (again)  
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CCA sent to A&L on 13th December, signed for by them on 19th December. Just checked my CC account online and they've taken the £1.00 CCA payment off my balance! Do they usually do this? :o

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HAVE YOU BEEN TREATED UNFAIRLY BY CREDITORS OR DCA's?

 

BEWARE OF CLAIMS MANAGEMENT COMPANIES OFFERING TO WRITE OFF YOUR DEBTS.

 

 

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Having checked online to download the last 6 months statements from this CC account I now find the account to be "suspended"? Any idea what this means and isn't it funny how it's only been suspended since I CCA'd them ? :)

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I've had this CC account with A&L about 2 years now. It's still with A&L although dont know for how long now- I have always paid more than the minimum each month and always on time. I CCA'd them prior to SARring them as I'm fed up of their charges and their interest rate rising appallingly. Just seems really funny to me that they should suspend the account just because I CCA'd them? They signed for the CCA request on the 19th of December and took the £1.00 CCA fee off my balance on the 20th December. I think they're up to something.....

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Wasn't too sure about the CCA going off instead of the SAR - should have checked on here first I guess! LOL They assumed wrong - I just want my charges back. :)

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These morons are really getting my back up now! Got a lovely letter from them yesterday saying my account was suspended due to my breaking their terms and conditions! A quick explanation;

 

12th December went £2.11 over my limit on the CC

Didn't know about this until the statement came through the post by which time they had added on the following;

 

07/11/2007 07/11/2007 0602PAYMENT - THANK YOU £50.00CR

13/11/2007 01/12/2007 OVERLIMIT FEE (BASED ON BALANCE 1,502.11) £12.00

22/11/2007 22/11/2007 LATE FEE £12.00

01/12/2007 01/12/2007 PAYMENT PROTECTION COVER £12.40

01/12/2007 01/12/2007 INTEREST CHARGED £31.13

New Balance: £1,569.64Minimum Payment: £72.53To Reach Your Account by: 24/12/2007

 

By now my balance is £69.94p over the limit of £1500! I rang them and rang them and all I get is we are right and you are wrong and no we won't cancel the PPI and no we won't lower the interest rate! I CCA'd them on the 19th December and the stinking letter is dated 22nd. I think personally they've taken the hump cos I got snotty with them on the phone - if it wasn't for their damn charges I wouldn't be this much overlimit in the first place! GRRRRR! I made a payment of £73.00 on the 20th December so my balance is now £1485.50. How come I get this snotty letter on the 22nd?

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Rang these numpties this afternoon in order to cancel the payment protection cover on this CC (seeing as we all know it's not worth the paper it's written on :D ) and they said, "please hold, have to transfer you to the right department" - they then proceeded to keep me on hold for 20 minutes before finally hanging up on me! This is just making me madder and madder at them now! :mad:

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Deb.... everything needs to be put in writing. 'Phone calls get you absolutely nowhere and cost you money to make in the first place. The S.A.R - (Subject Access Request) is what's needed in order to re-claim unlawful charges and A&L are unlikely to take any notice of you unless you go through the reclaiming procedures on here.

 

However, if they're unable to comply with your CCA request, they might wish they'd treated you with a bit more respect..... because without an enforceable CCA, you'd be within your rights to withhold all further payments after a certain timeframe and they would be stuffed for the whole balance.

 

As the have treated you so shoddily... and as you've already sent one off, the ball is now in their court.

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Well, they signed for the CCA on the 19th December and I'm giving them until the 11th January for the 12+2 deadline - thought I would be generous and allow them time for the Xmas and New Year holiday days.

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Received this this morning and have scanned it in to put on here. Don't know whether they've met their obligations or not so would like some advice please. :)

 

 

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Also were 4 pages of T&C's headed CREDIT CARD AGREEMENT REGULATED BY THE CONSUMER CREDIT ACT 1974 (although the interest rate in here is stated as 24.9% when the original rate upon taking out the card was 15.9%), a recent statment of account (dated 1st December) and another sheet entitled MAKING A PAYMENT.

Any advice gratefully received. :)

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Hi!

 

Don't know if you've already seen this thread, it may be of some help:

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collectors-debt-collection/105315-my-agreement-enforceable-useful.html

I'm midway through the tunnel, but getting closer to the light.

 

 

 

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I don't believe it - they've done it again!!!!!!!!!! Made a payment of £73.00 in December to bring the balance below the credit limit and after just checking online, they've added on another £12.19 PPI - which they won't let me cancel cos they keep putting the phone down on me! - and £33.73 interest which now makes my balance over again at £1,543.72!!!!!!!!!! That means there'll be another overlimit charge next month!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil: I can't believe these bl***y people!!!!!!!

 

Got my CCA this morning but it's a barely legible photocopy so I can't tell if it's right or not. I guess I'm gonna have to SAR these muppets next!

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Thanks Hopeful, I've read that but it make little or no sense to me. :( The photocopy they've sent is barely legible with a magnifying glass so I can't read a lot of it - it's as clear in the "flesh" as it looks on here!

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It's making my eyes hurt trying to read it. I would point out though that they have to supply you with a legible copy of the agreement.

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Thanks Rory - I gave myself a headache trying to read it too! Even tried with one of those jewellers eyeglasses, all to no avail! LOL The bit I find odd though is that it states in the letter;

 

Copy of the Original Credit Card application

 

So have they complied with my request? I don't understand these things - yet! :)

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Thanks Hopeful, I've read that but it make little or no sense to me. :( The photocopy they've sent is barely legible with a magnifying glass so I can't read a lot of it - it's as clear in the "flesh" as it looks on here!

 

 

I thought it had just scanned badly, as i can't read it! :o

 

As Rory says, it has to be legible.

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I thought it had just scanned badly, as i can't read it! :o

 

As Rory says, it has to be legible.

No, Hopeful, unfortunately this is as clear as it gets - I scanned it at 1200 dpi to make sure the copy I put on here matched the one in the flesh.:(

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I would therefore write back to them and inform them that the copy of the agreement as supplied is illegible and as such the account is currently unenforceable.

HAVE YOU BEEN TREATED UNFAIRLY BY CREDITORS OR DCA's?

 

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I would therefore write back to them and inform them that the copy of the agreement as supplied is illegible and as such the account is currently unenforceable.

 

Thanks Rory, anybody got any ideas on how to word this?

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Make up a letter around this...:-

 

The Consumer Credit (Cancellation Notices and Copies of Documents) Regulations 1983 SI No. 1557

 

Legibility of notices and copy documents and wording of prescribed Forms

2.-(1) The lettering in every notice in a Form prescribed by these Regulations and in every copy of an executed agreement, security instrument or other document referred to in the Act and delivered or sent to a debtor, hirer or surety under any provision of the Act shall, apart from any signature, be easily legible and of a colour which is readily distinguishable from the colour of the paper

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