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The claim includes statutory interest under S.69 of the County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from the date of assignment to the date of the issue of these proceedings in the sum of £49.15 The Claimant claims the sum of £972 What is the total value of the claim? £1112 Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? I dont know the details of the PAPDC to know if it was pursuant to paragraph 3, but I did receive a Letter of Claim with a questionaire/form to fill. Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? no Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. Assigned/purchaser Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? I was aware, I'm not certain I received a 'Notice of Assignment' from Capital One but may have been informed the account had been sold without such a title on the letter? Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Yes Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Not since the debt purchase, and not from Capital One. Why did you cease payments? I can't remember - it was the tail end of the pandemic and I may not have had enough income to keep up payments - I am self-employed and work in the event industry - at that time. I also had a bank account that didn't allow direct debits and may have just forgotten payments and became annoyed at fines for late payments. What was the date of your last payment? Appears to be 20/4/2022 Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No Here is my Defence: Defence - 1. The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are vague and generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. I have in the past had an agreement with Capital One but do not recognise this specific account number or recollect any outstanding debt and have therefore requested clarification by way of a CPR 31.14 and section 78 request.. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. I am unaware of having been served with a Default Notice pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. I am unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment pursuant to the Law and Property Act 1925 Section 136(1) 5. The Defendant has sent a request by way of a section 78 pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974, for a copy of the agreement, the Claimant has yet to comply and remains in default of said request. 6. A further request has been made via CPR 31.14 to the Claimants solicitor, requesting disclosure of documents on which the Claimant is basing their claim. The Claimant has not complied and to date nothing has been received. 7. It is therefore not accepted with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant and the Claimant is put to strict proof to: a) show how the Defendant has entered into an agreement and; b) show how the Claimant has reached the amount claimed for and; c) show the nature of the breach and evidence by way of a Default Notice pursuant to sec 88 CCA1974 d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim 8. As per Civil Procedure 16.5 it is expected that the claimants prove the allegation that the money is owed 9. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of section 136 of the Law of Property Act and section 82A of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 10. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief. .................. Please note that I had to write a defence quite quickly as I hit the deadline. At the time of writing the defence, I hadn't been able to find correspondence from Capital One, but had since found default letter etc. I submitted CCA request and CPR 31.14. However, I didn't get any proof of postage or use registered post for the CPR (an oversight) but did with the CCA request. I received a pack which included a letter from Overdales, going over the defence I'd filed, as well as letters of Lowells and reprints of letters from Capital One. But I have no idea if this pack is in response to the CCA request or the CPR ! I would have expected two separate responses ... although I do know they are both the same company. Looking over the pack today, and looking through old emails .. I find some discrepancies in the Capital One default letters (notice of default and Claim of default). They are both dated *before* an email I have stating that a default can be avoided. The one single page of agreement sent (so not the full agreement) has a 16 digit number at the top in small print, next to 'Capital One' which corresponds to a number called 'PURN' printed at the top of each of the 10 pages of ins and outs of the account (they're not official statements, but a list of monthly goings) yet no mention anywhere on either of the account number. I cant really scan them at the moment - I can later tomorrow, but that will be after the mediation call I'm sure. I guess I may be on my own for this mediation ... I am not certain the CCA request has been satisfied .. or if the CPR has been . And then I appear to have evidence that the Default notices provided are fabricated ? Yet, I do have (elsewhere ... not at home) Default letters from Capital One I can check ..
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PT, we have had no documents whatsoever, no credit agreements, no disclosure documents, NOTHING.

 

Neither have the court, that is why I sent them an informal letter asking for the case to be struck out. That is when my partner received General Form of Judgement or Order which ordered that

 

1. Time for Claimant to serve Disclosure Statement is extended to 4pm on 8th July 2008

 

2. If the Claimant defaults , the Defendant may apply, on notice, for such order he seeks.

 

We haven't had time to ring the Court yet to see if they met the above deadline.

 

I am going to assume they haven't sent anything - next thing this letter shows up in our post.

 

Blooming cheek!!

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Oh , thats nice then

 

No agreement, no disclosure by list, nowt , but they want you to negotiate

 

BLESS THEM

 

As a matter of urgency i would contact the court

 

then we need to look at what we do about this, i think an application for an order would be best but it costs money

 

however if the court strikes their claim out, then they are stuffed

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then we need to look at what we do about this, i think an application for an order would be best but it costs money

 

however if the court strikes their claim out, then they are stuffed

 

Hi Paul

 

Would it be possible for Heather to include in the draft order for the strike-out an order for (wasted?) costs?

 

Cheers

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PT, My partner contacted the court this morning and they have received papers from Barclays this morning, 9 days after their extension date. The lady at the court says this is normal, but we can write in and tell the judge that we are not happy, even though Barclays put in their letter to the court that we would not mind that it has been delayed.

 

The court are sending out a copy of the papers in today's post. What should we do now - I personally want to write to the court and tell them that we are unhappy that they did not meet the extension on the order and that we wish to apply for an order to have case struck out, but don't know whether we can do this.

 

Also, we have the issue of the letter we received trying to negotiate settlement of which the court have no knowledge of this letter and we are not able to show them, but we only have 7 days to reply to it.

 

PLEASE HELP

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Hi Heather,

 

Right,

 

Well, we need to see this credit agreement and other documents that they have sent the court.

 

quite simply until we see it, we really dont know the strength of their case

 

With regards to the letter, can you PM me the name of the person who wrote to you please, i have my thoughts and would like to confirm it either way

 

the best thing to do i feel, is write back to them and point out that they have not disclosed the credit agreement todate and they have once again missed the court deadlines

 

point out that until such time as you have received their documents you are not in a position to negotiate and will happily negotiate with them when they supply the information, which you have requested and have a legal right to

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Hi PT, I don't know whether you've seen my earlier threads, but here is what my partner got sent from the Court, he received them today.

 

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We can't ask to see the agreement as on Page 4 of this disclosure list it says that statements over 6 years and the original agreement are no longer held by the Claimant.

 

Also what about the letter we received from Barlcays which gives us 7 days to reply. time is up on Tuesday and this is letter we can't show to court.

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you can ask for a copy of the application form which is at point one of the DBL statement

 

with regards to the letter , i dont see what you can do about it, until you have seen the application form how the heck can you see if they have a case or not.

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Here is the page you could not read.

 

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Do you think I ought to write to Barclays and tell them we are not in a position to agree a settlement due to lack of paperwork we have not received.

 

And should I write to the Court to tell them that they missed extended deadline and we are not happy, and also inform them that we hold a letter we are not able to show them?

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Ok so they no longer hold the original but they do have a copy of it

 

so lets aks for the copy under the disclosure provisions

 

we NEED to see what they have

 

it may be worth writing to the court politely pointing out that they did indeed mis the deadline for service of the DBL and as a result this is causing you frustration

 

the main thing is that you should write back to our friend at barclays telling him that you did not recieve their DBL until late and are not as matters stand in a position to negotiate until you have seen the agreement which this claim is based

 

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Hi PT, I sent a letter back to Adrian Ruffhead at Barclays to say that we were not in a position to negotiate as we had not seen any paperwork and at the same time also requested he send me copies of the 11 documents he is relying on in Court.

 

We received those papers today and they consist of statements of credit card transactions from 2006, Mercers default notice, letters from Optima, with a Letter before Action, which we did not even receive, as well as a Barclaycard Application filled in and signed by my partner, but there are parts we cannot even read, that is why I have not uploaded a link to you to view it. There is a part on the application which says Credit Agreement regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974, but the small print is eligible.

 

What would be our next move?

 

Also I wrote a polite letter to the Court informing them that we were unhappy that Barclaycard went 9 days over the extended time limit to supply Disclosure Documents and asked that he stick by his Order and let us serve notice to have the case struck out. Awaiting a response from them on this.

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The problem with "letters to th court" is that they are placed into a file and read only when and if they are placed before a judge, and this in most cases only happens when a hearing takes place, as i understand it.

The only way of circumventing this is to make a "formal application" which you have to pay for, again as i understand it.

Perhaps others would care to comment?

Please note i have no legal training any advice i give comes from my own experience and from what i have learned on this site

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Hi PT, I sent a letter back to Adrian Ruffhead at Barclays to say that we were not in a position to negotiate as we had not seen any paperwork and at the same time also requested he send me copies of the 11 documents he is relying on in Court.

 

We received those papers today and they consist of statements of credit card transactions from 2006, Mercers default notice, letters from Optima, with a Letter before Action, which we did not even receive, as well as a Barclaycard Application filled in and signed by my partner, but there are parts we cannot even read, that is why I have not uploaded a link to you to view it. There is a part on the application which says Credit Agreement regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974, but the small print is eligible.

 

What would be our next move?

 

Also I wrote a polite letter to the Court informing them that we were unhappy that Barclaycard went 9 days over the extended time limit to supply Disclosure Documents and asked that he stick by his Order and let us serve notice to have the case struck out. Awaiting a response from them on this.

Can we have a look at the agreement? the reason i ask is that over the past couple of days behind the scenes we negotiated a settlement with Vianos case and today we were able to go public with the result

 

i would really like a look at that agreement just to see what its like and if its anything like Vianos then you may be getting a call from a certain solicitor soon

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