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    • It is already trespass, nothing further needed to make out trespass. Not sure where ‘interference with goods’ helps you / how you’d bring a claim for that that stops them parking there.
    • Thanks Dx,    For some further information, the holiday was booked as a package holiday for 2. One of the 2 had to be changed, and changing costs £700 for a new flight as "tickets had been issued and they cant do a name change". I cant quite figure out how compensation works for things when it comes to package holidays.    From what I can tell  - The plane was due to land in Turks and Caicos to drop off passengers, something happened during descent, resulting in technical fault.  - The rest of the original flight from Turks & Caicos -> Montego Bay was cancelled  - A New flight was put on today, which was then delayed by 1.5hrs aswell  - Hotel was provided for the night after much hassle.  - 1.5 days, 2 evenings of holiday lost  If I understand correctly, since the original flight (LHR -> Turks -> Montego Bay) was cancelled, they are both entitled to a refund on that full flight? I can't quite work out if they are only entitled to a refund for the equivalent of Turks -> Montego Bay, or for the full LHR->Turks->Montego Bay, since it was issued as one ticket/all Virgin, and they should have arrived yesterday..?)  I can't work out how to get the cost of that compensation, or whether its a set figure, and how the loss of days of holiday is factored in   I am aware:  If you received less than 14 days’ notice of the cancellation, you are generally due compensation, awarded in pounds or euros depending on where your flight was due to depart from, according to the following scale: £220 / €250 for all flights of 1,500km or less (e.g. Glasgow to Amsterdam); £350 / €400 for all flights between 1,500km and 3,500km (e.g. East Midlands to Marrakech); £520 / €600 for all other flights (e.g. London to New York). Compensation will be reduced by 50% if the arrival time of the replacement flight doesn’t exceed the arrival time of the original flight by: two hours for flights of 1,500km or less; three hours for flights between 1,500km and 3,500km; four hours for all other flights. So I "think" its £520pp for the flight part as compensation... but some sites say its a full refund for the flight... is it both?  Thanks,  Ryan  
    • Our business was only transacted digitally as I was not in England at that time.  
    • Funny. But not sure I should ! Wondering if I could place pots and plants - which a) would look nice and b) would it then be trespass and interference of goods?
    • probably this buy out everyone goes on about. well just make sure they do properly sanitise your credit file. dx  
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there is none. but more to the point I think they didn't mean "how do we enforce abuse" unless they want to make it compulsory ! I suggest they meant "how do we prevent abuse". But PPCs love to use the word 'enforce' when of course they can't enforce anything. Then there is the obvious rider question - how can covering up graffiti painted on the ground be considered 'abuse'.

 

OK. So I ask you a question. You offer to answer my question by selling your services. I ask if you have the site owners permission to sell your services (see site rules). Maybe the word illegal was incorrect but certainly against site rules. So I am sorry about using the word illegal but are you, therefore, sorry about using the site to sell your sevices when I was asking a very legitimate question on behalf of disabled people.

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I believe I Hate Excel has clearly pointed out that on the occasion that his car was parked (by person or persons unknown) in a "bay marked with a drawing of a person in a wheelchair" that a number of other similar bays were available and empty for the entire duration of his car's occupancy. Please clarify how this therefore inconvenienced any disabled person?

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Bircho - are you trying to wriggle out of our contract ? I have secured evidence that you accepted this contract both by action and by explicit agreement. I did not sell - I made you an offer and you accepted. No advertising or other parties involved, it was a personal negotiation conducted in a public place. PPCs need to understand the difference between "illegal" and "unlawful" - and to do neither. As for I Hate Excel's 'case' - it has been answered many times. Disabled bays in private car parks are meaningless graffiti. There isn't even a moral claim against him/her on the circumstances - not that a PPC could make a moral claim, the universe is not that twisted.

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So you agree, lamma you, that is is ok someone should park in a disabled space even though they are not disabled irrespective of its location?

 

What disabled space?

 

Any surface markings are little more than graffiti and the Blue Badge scheme makes it perfectly clear that it does not extend to private car parks.

 

See DirectGov site here; read the first sentence under "Where the scheme doesn't apply"

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Please give an example of a lawful and legal way that these companies could use....... (I've just applied for a job as a sadistic dentist to pull some teeth full time)

 

they could use an old fashioned car park attendant to tell you where they would like you to park, obviously this would not be as profitable, having to pay a man a full time wage to advise motorists, instead of using cameras and ticket machines to create automatic "fines". at the moment Excel are all about mass profit and not about managing the parking of cars.

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Hey everyone,

 

I've just joined this site due to me getting a parking ticket on

Tuesday 23rd October at Middlesbrough Leisure Park. :(

I parked up in the free blue bays (available to leisure park users only)

to go to the cinema and when I came back out, there was a ticket

on my car. I asked the attendant why I had received it as I didn't

understand and he replied, "you never used the facillities, you went

into town" and I told him that it wasn't true and that i'd been to the

cinema, i even showed him my ticket stub and he said, "oh sorry,

someone who must have looked like you went into town" :-?:?

 

but if they aren't sure then why do it :evil: now i have to go through

the process of an appeal, which is pointless by the sounds of the

posts on here. I sent my ticket and cinema stub to the excel parking

office on Wednesday 24th and i'm now waiting for a response. I just

hope they see that the attendant was in the wrong and not me, as

i'm only a poor student and i can't afford to pay £100 this close to

christmas!

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I sent my ticket and cinema stub to the excel parking

office on Wednesday 24th and i'm now waiting for a response. I just

hope they see that the attendant was in the wrong and not me, as

i'm only a poor student and i can't afford to pay £100 this close to

christmas!

 

Sending your ticket and stub to them could well be a big mistake (in so far as if they ever went to court it would have been so easy to present them to the magistrate then.)

 

They are unlikely to cancel it and now you have handed over your evidence of innocence. If they don't, you should just ignore anything and everything they send to you now short of an actual court summons. It is unlikely to go that far,but who knows. If they do cancel it I'll be shocked. Shocked but pleasantly surprised that is. :)

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there is no appeal - its just there as lip service of 'fairness'. in reality it is used to suck you in. keep hold of the cinema ticket, put it in drawer with any all rubbish you receive from Excel and ignore them. let them waste their own time and money writing letters and paying the DVLA - for a zero return !! :)

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I really don't want to go to court over this though, as it was the parking attendants fault. I didn't think when I sent my ticket to them, they'll probably turn this around and say they never recieved it - have either of you had a ticket off them?

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yeah i guess, i'm just dreading the endless letters they're going to send me because i'm not paying. i've only just passed my driving test too, what a bummer!

 

Welcome to the big bad world. :p

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Hi All

 

I committed a 'code 94' violation for inputting the wrong registration in the machine and even though i bought a ticket and left within the expiry time they want £60 for contravening 'code 94'. I'm not paying them and i'm willing to go to court.

 

Any advice anyone?

 

Cheers

 

Marshmallow

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Hi Marshmallow

At last someone in the same boat. Where did yours take place? Mine was in George Street car park in Wakefield and has been ongoing since July. Exactly what happened to you? If you follow through all the other threads you will see the things I have been posting but am keen to hear your story before you see mine and then we can compare notes

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Hi Tirnanog

 

Mine was in the Pennine Centre in Halifax town centre. I was late for an appointment and just pressed all the buttons to get a ticket. I left within time and didn't give it a second thought. When i received the first letter i thought that the ticket must have blown off the dashboard when i closed the door so i wrote to them with a copy of the ticket saying here's proof of my payment sorry it wasn't displayed (i had no idea who they were then). They wrote back saying that because i hadn't typed in the right registration then it was invalid and i'd contravened 'code 94' and was liable for a fine. They warn in the letter that failure to pay will result in court action and debt recovery. I'm trying to find out where i legally stand on that.

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Hello again Marshmallow

Same thing has happened to me, bought ticket but got one character wrong on reg but first I knew was when got Notice To Owner to say I owed £100 within 7 days for nonpayment of PCN. I never rec it and you wil find this scenario is quite common with excel. Wrote back and sent copy etc and wont go into all detail at this stage but the lates is that I have replied to their solicitor suggesting they obtain copies of all correspondence between myself and excel; I have letters from excel admitting that I bought a ticket but wanting £10 to cover costs or else they will pursue the PCN.

Look at Money Saving Expert: Consumer Revenge - Credit Cards, Shopping, Bank Charges, Cheap Flights and more. This guy is excellent for everything you want like car insurance etc, you name it he does it and he is very well known. Also look at what people on this site say to you and you begin to build up a picture.

I am certainly prepared to go to court as this whole business with excel needs bringing into the public domain.

Think about this - they are pursuing a PCN despite the fact that they admit that the contravention didnt take place and they are doing it to blag me into paying £10; I am reporting them to the ombudsman for this (and they have already been removed once from the list of people authorised to get instant access to the dvla records although reinstated later). They are therefore threatening to take me to court for £272 in pursuit of an alleged debt of £10, and incidentally it costs £2.50 for them to get your nmber from the dvla so the whole thing is completely excessive and they have already been chucked out of court for that.

But th really interesting thing is that if you look at Martin Lewis he says that private parking companies CANNOT ISSUE PCNs as it is a private contract. Read his website. If you are interested I could tell you about the correspondence that has passed between us.

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If you have paid to park, whether or not you punched in the right reg number, displayed a P&D ticket etc. is irrelevant.

 

It's no different from buying an item and refusing to show the receipt to the security guard at the door. Sure, it would make your life easier, but you are under no obligation to. And he has no powers to fine you or make you pay a 'not showing receipt when asked to' notice.

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