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    • Thank you. You contacted directly with the parcel broker so your best option is to proceed directly against them for breach of contract. I hope you have read enough to understand that you will not be able to rely on the Consumer Rights Act 2015. Do you understand why? Have Parcel to Go giving you a reason for declining reimbursement? Do you have anything in writing from your customer which shows that they did not refuse delivery and which identifies the actual circumstances of the situation?
    • Which Court have you received the claim from?  CIVIL NATIONAL BUSINESS CENTRE, NORTHAMPTON Name of the Claimant?  LOWELL PORTFOLIO LTD How many defendant's joint or self?  SELF Date of issue – top right hand corner of the claim form – this in order to establish the time line you need to adhere to.  03 MAY 2024 Particulars of Claim What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim?  THE CLAIM IS FOR THE SUM OF £6000 DUE TO THE DEFENDANT UNDER AN AGREEMENT REGULATED BY THE CONSUMER ACT 1974 FOR A LLOYDS BANKING GROUP PLC ACCOUNT WITH AN ACCOUNT REFERENCE OF (ACCOUNT NO. 16 DIGITS LONG). THE DEFENDANT FAILED TO MAINTAIN CONTRACTUAL PAYMENTS REQUIRED BY THE AGREEMENT AND A DEFAULT NOTICE WAS SERVED UNDER S.87(1) OF THE CONSUMER ACT 1974 WHICH HAS NOT BEEN COMPLIED WITH. THE DEBT WAS LEGALLY ASSIGNED TO THE CLAIMANT ON (DATE) NOVEEMBER 2016 NOTICE OF WHICH HAS BEEN GIVEN TO THE DEFENDANT. THE CLAIM INCLUDES STATUORY INTEREST UNDER S.69 OF THE COUNTY COURTS ACT 1984 AT A RATE OF 8% PER ANNUM FOR THE DATE PF ASSIGNMENT TO THE DATE OF ISSUE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS IN THE SUMBE OF £0.00. THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS THE SUM OF £6000. What is the total value of the claim? £6500 Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? YES, NOTICES OF CLAIM.  Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred?  YES  Did you inform the claimant of your change of address?  NO Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account?  CREDIT CARD When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007?  BEFORE   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post?  I DONT RECALL   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ?  NO   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim.  DEBT PURCHASER.   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? THE FIRST I RECALL WAS A LETTER FROM LOWELL SAYING THEY NOW OWNED THE DEBT.  Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor?  NOT THAT I RECALL OR BEEN PROVIDED WITH THROUGH CCA REQUESTS.AT LAST REQUEST THEY SAID THEY WERE AWAITING THE DEFAULT NOTICE AND NO ACTION WOULD BE TAKEN UNTIL RESPONDED WHICH TO DATE I'VE NOT HAD OR SEEN.  Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ?  NO, I RECEIEVED LETTERS OF CLAIMS   Why did you cease payments?  I WAS UNDER MEDICAL CARE WHICH CAUSED ME NOT TO WORK. AROUND THAT TIME LOWELL HAD WANTED ME TO INCREASE MY PAYMENTS AS IT WOULD TAKE TOO LONG TO CLEAR THE DEBT. I HAD BEEN PAYING THEM WHAT I WAS PAYING THE BANK. I EXPLAINED MY THEN HEALTH & FINANCIAL POSITION AND THAT I WAS UNABLE TO DO SO. THEY PUT A HOLD ON MY ACCOUNT FOR A FEW MONTHS SO I CANCELLED MY DIRECT DEBIT. I MADE A FULL AND FINAL OFFER WHICH WAS REJECTED. WHEN THEY WANTED PAYMENTS TO RESUME I EXPLAINED I WAS IN A WORSE FINANCIAL POSITION, STILL UNDERTAKING TREATMENT AND NOW UNEMPLOYED SO COULD NOT START PAYMENTS AS THEY WANTED. AFTER SENDING MY FINANCIAL SPREADSHEET THEY KEPT SENDING LETTERS ASKING WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO. I COULDN’T SEE A WAY FORWARD I FELT STREESSED AND UNDER PRESSURE SO WROTE THAT I WOULD NOT BE CORRESPONDING WITH THEM ANYMORE.    What was the date of your last payment? NOVEMBER / DECEMBER 2018   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? NO   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? I COMMUNICATED MY FINANCIAL PROBLEMS WITH THE CREDIT CARD COMPANY, WE MADE A MONTHLY PAYMENT AGREEMENT WHICH WAS KEPT FOR SEVERAL YEARS UNTIL DEBT WAS SOLD.  
    • Perhaps you would care to read this and reflect on your continuing comparison of Israel to Nazi Germany Jugg    ALEX BRUMMER: How grotesque of pro-Palestine protesters to besmirch Auschwitz, the place where my grandparents died WWW.DAILYMAIL.CO.UK As the son of a refugee from the horrors of the Holocaust, I can feel nothing but contempt for the ignorance, gross... My elderly aunt Sussie and cousin Sheindy had been teenagers at Auschwitz and Belsen but survived and are alive to this day. What they will make of the protesters who waved flags, heckled and chanted as Israelis took part in the March Of The Living – the annual walk from Auschwitz to Birkenau – I cannot imagine. The images now circulating of the protesters are indescribably disturbing. They can only bring back memories of those final moments Sheindy shared with my grandparents when my grandmother Fanya squeezed her hand and told her to lie about her age to avoid the gas chambers. Claiming she was older, and could work, meant that Sheindy lived, not died. The outrage perpetrated by Hamas on October 7 has brought back the most terrifying memories for these two women – memories of pillage, mutilation and starvation. The Holocaust, or Shoah to use the Hebrew word, was the deliberate, industrial-scale killing of Jews.  It is bad enough that pro-Palestinian and pro-Hamas sympathisers have chosen to steal the language of the Holocaust.  Any comparison between Israel's retaliation and the monstrous genocide of the 1940s is odious and anti-Semitic
    • Thank you JK2054 and BankFodder for your replies. The information requested is as follows:   My wife and I are sole traders supplying bespoke, handmade wedding trays and other items through our website. We do not sell on ebay. We had an order for two trays (invoice value £370) that were shipped on Monday 25th March. We used P2G as the broker and Evri as the shipper. We declared the value but did not take out insurance. As the trays were a present for a wedding on Saturday 30th March we checked the progress of delivery on the Thursday to see that there had been an attempt to deliver on the 27th but the driver failed to deliver as the customer’s gate was shut (customer informs us that the gates are open between 7am-7pm. We contacted the customer who informed us she had been waiting in all week and there had been no attempt of a delivery. Evri allege they attempted to deliver on the 28th & 29th. On the P2G web site on the 4th April at 14.17 it stated that the customer refused delivery. At 14.28 it updated to say there was a problem with the address and at 14.32 updated to say the customer had refused delivery. At 14.35 updated again to say it was being returned. Last entry was on the 7th April that it was being processed at the depot. We never received it. I have had six web chats with P2G between the 4th-30th April. On the 26th April, I had an offer of £20 plus cost of delivery (£6.72) from P2G which I rejected. During this time, I also contacted Evri that resulted in an email from Evri Customer Services (20th April) stating that they had lost the parcel. I replied requesting details of the attempted delivery but received no reply. After emailing Evri again on the 23rd asking again for the information I received a phone call from someone called Haleemah on the 25th who apologised and promised to send an email with a link to submit a claim form. I subsequently received an email with the link which only took me to a page that stated “Page not found”. After informing Evri customer services of the problem (to which no reply was forthcoming) a couple of days later I retried the link but it only took me to the Evri website. I believe that I have a good case against both companies but would appreciate guidance on which path to go down. I have read most of the information on this site, which has been very helpful and much appreciated, particularly the various court transcripts. I appreciate that this process is a marathon and not a sprint and am fully aware that I need to get everything in the correct order before starting on the legal road. I am sure this covers the current position but if further info is needed please let me know.  
    • Everything at small claims revolves around informality and common sense, there are no "special" ways to have to do things. The site manager's WS will be like yours and the one I linked to - just much shorter.  There need to be the introductory hearings about the case, the parties, etc., and the concluding Statement of Truth. In the middle just a couple of paragraphs where they say who they are, how they know you, and about permission being given by the landowner to use the car park. Superb.  I've added another section about the signage to the suggested WS sections three posts above. Yes, it's perfectly possible.  It'd be a good idea to phone the court on the 18th to see if they have paid.
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:sad: Hi all

 

I'm sorry for being so dramatic and depressing but I had to air this somewhere and a site so full of people who are knowledgable and helpful just seemed ideal.

 

My partner and I are in around £5k of debt plus a managed loan in my name only which I am hoping to dispute. We are on a debt management plan with payplan, and are paying £130 pm to cover all debts, as we are on a small income, partner works but i am on maternity leave with one child and one on the way.

 

The thing that is getting me down is the way we are treated by all these debt collection companaies, I am dying to get shot of them, and i guess my question is this, is there anyway of paying less then the total balance? Settlement figures that they must adhere to, basically anything you can advise at all i would be grateful of.

 

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read thru some of the threads and when you have got yourself up to speed send a Consumer Credit Act 1974 request (copy in the library thread) along with a £1 cheque or postal order to each of the companies that you have a loan or debt with. you will then be able to see if they have a right to collect these debt and it may give you some bargaining power with them. when you send them , they have 12 working days after receipt of this request to supply the agreement. post back here when you've done this or with any more questions.

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hi there ecobabe, thanks a lot for your help, i will take your advice and post back as soon as its done, maybe you could keep me right that im going about things correctly, do i post these requests to debt collectors also, like moorcroft and wescot? i really appreciate the help, ty

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Send letters to anyone who is pursuing you to make sure they actually have the legal powder and shot to collect the debt. They'll need to at least supply copies of the original credit agreements plus a full breakdown of all charges. Most of the time debt collectors can't supply documents and will just go away when you call their bluff (I've got about £90k worth of defaults and so far it looks as though I'll end up having to pay less than £4k).

"Why CCJ when you can CCA!"

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hi there payingonlyencouragesthem -

 

by the way i love your name lol certainly made me smile!!

 

thats amazing you have got your debt so far down!! we have nearly 6k plus a managed loan with hsbc of 2k.

 

About the loan to hsbc - i feel i was forced into it under duress, is there a method of disputing its legitimissy, im sorry i am useless at spelling lol.

 

i have claimed back my bank charges, accepted £80 less then i was claiming as its coming up to xmas and my baby being due, so im waiting for my £1255 cheque - woohoo!!

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That name is a very sound piece of advice in the unsecured debt market:grin: However if you own your home you should tread carefully as DCA's have recently got more feisty with going after charging orders. £130 a month? What a waste:-x!!! If you left it and let them take you to court (very low probability scenario) a judge would almost certainly order lower payments than this as well as being pretty p'd off at some greedy bank dragging a hard up mum-to-be into court. I would try a little experiment just for fun - stop paying all these people and totally ignore them. It sounds totally wrong and unethical I know but a bank with multi billion £ profits bullying people like you into financial hardship is infinitely worse.

"Why CCJ when you can CCA!"

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i dont own my own home, so im ok from that point of view. my partner works full time but on a low wage so we dont have that much really. the £130 pm is to send payment to all creditors, and even at that some are ok with it others arent. to name a few its barclaycard, halifax CC, capital one, reliable collections, ge capital, argos which is now moorcroft. and of course hsbc managed loan.ill get the letters sent off and deffo keep in touch on here and see what happens. even if it cancelled one debt it would be amazing!! the way they think they can talk to you makes me sick!!!

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im sorry its me again lol

 

about a week ago i went to the cit advice bureau to ask some advice on the validity of my managed loan with hsbc. they had no idea what to say to me about it lol they said all they could do while it was looked into was write to the bank asking them for a copy of the agreement signed by myself. what i wanted to know, is this the same thing as i will be requesting for the £1 fee and the letter i am planning to send on monday? if so, do i carry on and send it or do i want to see what happens with the CAB?

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Hi Helz

It would be a similar request but I dont think it will be a CCA it will be a letter on your behalf

For the CCA to be active it has to have with it £1 did CAB mention this or ask for it?

Any action from yourself always shows you are active in resolving these accounts it all very good on your part. Especailly If you ever needed to present the whole picture in your defence.

 

If you are still worried regarding the letter i would ring CAB ask what they think im sure they won't mind. They have thier hands full lately;) :D

 

Good Luck

BL:)

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Hi there. Am sorry you are having such a stressful time. I have had several debt collection companies pursue me over the years. What has always worked for me was to send in a breakdown of income and outgoings (making sure that my outgoings were inflated somewhat) and offer a token payment, providing they agreed to freeze all interest charges to the account. This has always been agreed by them.

 

I have never said to anyone that I own my own home, but simply listed mortgage or rent as "housing costs". No-one has ever pressed me for evidence, so I have never offered any. I also make sure that outgoings for buildings insurance are never included, only contents. I never say that I own a car and so car insurance is not included in my figures either.

 

You say that you are approx. £6,000 in debt? I currently have one debt that stands at just under £5,000 with a debt collection company and they have been accepting £15 a month from me for the past 3 years - no interest. I don't get hassled by them and every so often, they contact me with a view to increase payments to £20. I simply write back and say that I can't afford it, but promise to maintain existing payments. I never 'phone.

 

Providing you maintain the agreed payments, there is nothing they can do about it, because you are not a non-payer. As long as you pay something, then they will be wasting their time taking you to court and won't. If you do not own your own home, then there is nothing for them to pursue you for because they cannot put a charge on anything. If you do own your own home, then don't tell them - you are not in court and therefore, are not legally obliged to tell them ! If it takes years to pay off, then so be it. They are usually keen to accept a reduced settlement figure on the debt eventually anyway, somewhere down the line.

 

Write and explain that you can no longer afford your current payments - they are way too high ! Enclose a cheque for a much smaller, reduced sum and offer it. Take time with your income/outgoings list and think carefully about the information that you wish to include and make the same small payment every month whether they reply or not, so that they cannot accuse you of non-payment. They are unlikely to pressurise you into higher payments in writing - only over the 'phone, so don't phone.

 

I hope that you have a good pregnancy. Try not to worry. The future is bright.

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hi there priorityone, thanks for taking the time to reply, i feel so much better that we are not the only ones going through this.

 

my main worry really is debt collectors coming to the door that would scare me sooo much. we dont own our home, we have a car but only an L reg ford escort so nothing fancy.

 

ill deffo keep this thread updated when i get any kind of response to my letters

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Send letters to anyone who is pursuing you to make sure they actually have the legal powder and shot to collect the debt. They'll need to at least supply copies of the original credit agreements plus a full breakdown of all charges. Most of the time debt collectors can't supply documents and will just go away when you call their bluff (I've got about £90k worth of defaults and so far it looks as though I'll end up having to pay less than £4k).

 

 

The rules on the storage and filing of this information was reinforced in mid 2005.

While it is correct to say that they are unlikely to have paperwork in some cases,there is a greater probability that post mid 2005 they could have access to them.

Debts these days are sold on with the details on software.The Dcas that have in the past been able to supply CCA information is quite well known...as are the ones who never comply because they are unable to.

Have a happy and prosperous 2013 by avoiiding Payday loans. If you are sent a private message directing you for advice or support with your issues to another website,this is your choice.Before you decide,consider the users here who have already offered help and support.

Advice offered by Martin3030 is not supported by any legal training or qualification.Members are advised to use the services of fully insured legal professionals when needed.

 

 

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i know nothng about which ones are likely to have it and which ones not, as i have only known about this law for 24 hours :confused:

 

all i can do is send my letters and get my fingers crossed till i get some replies! if i post recorded 1st class monday morning, they have until 2 weeks thursday, am i right?

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with the debts i have with dca's, the company in question sent me defaults, then i recieved letters from dca saying you owe us £x on an account with 'whoever'. there was no letter from company telling me who the debt was sold to, and there was no default notice sent to me from the dca.

 

is this normal, or are they in the wrong with this?

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we have around 12 creditors, and about 4 of these are dca's.

 

the reason we ended up like this was my husband had to cut his working hours down from 65-45pw, the loss of money meaning we struggled to keep up with payments, and in most cases defaulted. some companies were happy to accept lower payments as proposed by payplan, others defaulted us and sent account to a dca. one example of this is an argos account which is now with moorcroft.

 

argos sent us a default notice, then next we heard was a letter from moorcroft saying that they now had the account and to call them with payment or payment propsals. payplan are now paying them a certain amount per month and all is running not too bad, however at every contact they ask for more money, which i can understand, but money is too tight and we now have our 2nd child on the way. (unplanned, wouldnt have planned this when money so tight).

 

anyway im looking really for settlement figures from some of the creditors to clear the debts quicker, using my husbands holiday pay which he wants to take instead of the actual holiday, and if these debts are not properly documented etc im wondering if we have a strong case in asking for a lower settlement figure, as they have possibly commited an offence?

 

all this i have just gathered from reading other posts, so i may well be wrong and would be grateful if anyone more knowledgeable then me, well, anyone - lol - would make sure that i know what im talking about before i decide on what action to take.

 

im sorry its so long and i hope thats the info you were meaning

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Have all the DCAs bought the debts and are these the ones you want to settle? Because DCAs buy their debts cheaply, they may be more willing

than an original creditor to do a deal with you for cash now rather than

dribs and drabs over a number of tears.

 

If that is the case, put up the debts and see what advice you get as to the offer to make and any subsequent negotiation.

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In the meantime, write back and say that you cannot afford any more than you are currently paying, but you will continue with the present arrangement. Mooorcroft are one of mine - they have been trying to get me to increase for the past 4 years. As long as the current payments are made, then they won't hassle you. After Xmas, I plan to approach them with an offer, but I have no intention of increasing the monthly payments.

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