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    • Hi there, Here is the sticky filled out as best as possible:  Which Court have you received the claim from? MCOL (County Court Business Centre, Northampton) Name of the Claimant: Uk Parking Control Limited Claimants Solicitors: DCB Legal Date of issue: March 2023 Following events: — DQ sent to me July 2023 — I filed a DQ in September 2023 — My claim was transferred to [my local court] September 2023 — Received Notice of Allocation to Small Claims Track (Hearing) including date for hearing in April 2024 — Witness statement due by May 14 — Claimant must pay court fees by May 17 — Court hearing on June 18   What is the claim for – the reason they have issued the claim? Please type out their particulars of claim (verbatim) less any identifiable data and round the amounts up/down. 1. The defendant is indebted to the claimant for a Parking Charge issued at [x] issued to vehicle [__] at Walcot Yard, Walcot Road, Bath, Ba1 5bg. 2. The PCN details are [___]. 3. The PCN(s) was issued on private land owned or managed by C. The vehicle was parked in breach of the Terms on Cs signs (the Contract), this incurring the PCNs. 4. The driver agreed to pay within 28 days but did not. D is liable as the driver or keeper. Despite requests, the PCN is outstanding. The Contract entitles C to damages.  AND THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS 1. £160 being the total of the PCN(s) and damages. 2. Interest at a rate of 8% per annum pursuant to s.69 of the County Courts Act 1984 from the date hereof at a daily rate of [x]p until judgement or sooner payment. 3. Costs and court fees   What is the value of the claim? ~260 Amount Claimed ~170 court fees ~35 legal rep fees ~50 Total Amount  ~260   Have you moved since the issuance of the PCN? No   Did you receive a letter of Claim With A reply Pack wanting I&E etc about 1mth before the claimform? No Here is the defence I filed:  DEFENCE 1. The parking charges referred to in this claim did not arise from any agreement of terms. The charge and the claim was an unexpected shock. The Defendant denies that the Claimant is entitled to relief in the sum claimed, or at all. It is denied that any conduct by the driver was a breach of any prominent term and it is denied that this Claimant (understood to have a bare licence as managers) has standing to sue or form contracts in their own name. Liability is denied, whether or not the Claimant is claiming 'keeper liability', which is unclear from the Particulars. The facts as known to the Defendant: 2. It is admitted that on the material date the Defendant was the registered keeper of the vehicle in question, but liability is denied. 3. While working at a nearby premises, [___] the Defendant was informed by the manager that they had an informal verbal agreement with the developer and owner operator of [___], which supposedly allowed them to park there. Based on this information, the Defendant parked their car there in good faith. The Defendant was not aware of any restrictions or limitations to this agreement, and therefore believed that they had the right to park there without penalty. 4. The Defendant avers that the Claimant failed to serve a Notice to Keeper compliant with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012. Consequently, the claimant cannot transfer liability for this charge to the Defendant as keeper of the vehicle. 5. The Particulars of Claim ('POC') appear to be in breach of CPR 16.4, 16PD3 and 16PD7, and fail to "state all facts necessary for the purpose of formulating a complete cause of action”. 6. The Defendant is unable, on the basis of the POC, to understand with certainty what case is being pursued. 7. The POC are entirely inadequate, in that they fail to particularise (a) the contractual term(s) relied upon; (b) the specifics of any alleged breach of contract; and (c) how the purported and unspecified 'damages' arose and the breakdown of the exaggerated quantum. 8. The claim has been issued via Money Claims Online and, as a result, is subject to a character limit for the Particulars of Claim section of the Claim Form. The fact that generic wording appears to have been applied has obstructed any semblance of clarity. The Defendant trusts that the court will agree that a claim pleaded in such generic terms lacks the required details and requires proper particularisation in a detailed document within 14 days, per 16PD.3 9. The guidance for completing Money Claims Online confirms this and clearly states: "If you do not have enough space to explain your claim online and you need to serve extra, more detailed particulars on the defendant, tick the box that appears after the statement 'you may also send detailed particulars direct to the defendant.'" 10. No further particulars have been filed and to the Defendant's knowledge, no application asking the court service for more time to serve and/or relief from sanctions has been filed either. 11. In view of it having been entirely within the Claimant's Solicitors' gift to properly plead the claim at the outset and the claim being for a sum, well within the small claims limit, such that the Defendant considers it disproportionate and at odds with the overriding objective (in the context of a failure by the Claimant to properly comply with rules and practice directions) for a Judge to throw the erring Claimant a lifeline by ordering further particulars (to which a further defence might be filed, followed by further referral to a Judge for directions and allocation) the court is respectfully invited to strike this claim out. 13. Whilst the new Code and Act is not retrospective, it was enacted due to the failure of the self-serving BPA & IPC Codes of Practice. The Minister is indisputably talking about existing (not future) cases when declaring that 'recovery' fees were 'designed to extort money'. A clear steer for the Courts which it is hoped overrides mistakes made in a few appeal cases that the parking industry desperately rely upon (Britannia v Semark-Jullien, One Parking Solution v Wilshaw, Vehicle Control Services v Ward and Vehicle Control Services v Percy). 14. Far from being persuasive, regrettably these one-sided appeals saw Circuit Judges led in one direction by Counsel for parking firms, and the litigant-in-person consumers lacked the wherewithal to appeal. In case this Claimant tries to rely upon these, the Defendant avers that errors were made in every case. Evidence was either overlooked (including signage discrepancies in Wilshaw, where the Judge was also oblivious to the BPA Code of Practice and the DVLA KADOE requirement for landowner authority) or the Judge inexplicably sought out and quoted from the wrong Code altogether (Percy). In Ward, a few seconds' emergency stop out of the control of the driver was unfairly aligned with the admitted parking contract in Beavis. Those learned Judges were not in possession of the same level of information as the DLUHC, whose incoming statutory Code of Practice now clarifies such matters as a definition of 'parking' as well as consideration and grace periods and minor matters such as 'keying errors' or 'fluttering tickets/permits' where a PCN should not have been issued at all, or should have been cancelled in the pre-action dispute phase. POFA and CRA breaches 15. Pursuant to Schedule 4 paragraph 4(5) of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 ('the POFA') the sum claimed exceeds the maximum potentially recoverable from a registered keeper, even in cases where a firm may have complied with other POFA requirements (adequate signage, Notice to Keeper wording/dates, and a properly communicated 'relevant contract/relevant obligation'). If seeking keeper/hirer liability - unclear from the POC - the Claimant is put to strict proof of full compliance and liability transferred. 16. Claiming costs on an indemnity basis is unfair, per the Unfair Contract Terms Guidance (CMA37, para 5.14.3), the Government guidance on the Consumer Rights Act 2015 ('CRA'). The CRA introduced new requirements for 'prominence' of both contract terms and 'consumer notices'. In a parking context, this includes signage and all notices, letters and other communications intended to be read by the consumer. 17. Section 71 creates a duty upon courts to consider the test of fairness, including (but not limited to) whether all terms/notices were unambiguously and conspicuously brought to the attention of a consumer. Signage must be prominent, plentiful, well placed and lit, and all terms unambiguous and obligations clear. The Defendant avers that the CRA has been breached due to unfair/unclear terms and notices, pursuant to s62 and paying due regard to examples 6, 10, 14 & 18 of Schedule 2 and the requirements for fair/open dealing and good faith. ParkingEye v Beavis is distinguished (lack of legitimate interest/prominence of terms) 18. ParkingEye overcame the possibility of their £85 charge being dismissed as punitive, however the Supreme Court clarified that ‘the penalty rule is plainly engaged’ in parking cases, which must each be determined on their own facts. That 'unique' case met a commercial justification test, and took into account the prominent yellow/black uncluttered signs with £85 in the largest/boldest text. Rather than causing other parking charges to be automatically justified, the Beavis case facts set a high bar that this Claimant has failed to reach. 19. Paraphrasing from the Supreme Court, deterrence is likely to be penal if there is a lack of a 'legitimate interest' in performance extending beyond the prospect of compensation flowing directly from the alleged breach. The intention cannot be to punish a driver, nor to present them with hidden terms, unexpected/cumbersome obligations nor 'concealed pitfalls or traps'. 20. In the present case, the Claimant has fallen foul of those tests. The Claimant’s small signs have vague/hidden terms and a mix of small font, and are considered incapable of binding a driver. Consequently, it remains the Defendant’s position that no contract to pay an onerous 'penalty' was seen or agreed. Binding Court of Appeal authorities which are on all fours with a case involving unclear terms and a lack of ‘adequate notice’ of a parking charge, include: (i) Spurling v Bradshaw [1956] 1 WLR 461 (‘red hand rule’) and (ii) Thornton v Shoe Lane Parking Ltd [1970] EWCA Civ2, both leading authorities confirming that a clause cannot be incorporated after a contract has been concluded; and (iii) Vine v London Borough of Waltham Forest: CA 5 Apr 2000, where Ms Vine won because it was held that she had not seen the terms by which she would later be bound, due to "the absence of any notice on the wall opposite the parking space'' (NB: when parking operator Claimants cite Vine, they often mislead courts by quoting out of context, Roch LJ's words about the Respondent’s losing case, and not from the ratio). 21. Fairness and clarity of terms and notices are paramount in the statutory Code and this is supported by the BPA & IPC Trade Bodies. In November 2020's Parking Review, solicitor Will Hurley, CEO of the IPC, observed: "Any regulation or instruction either has clarity or it doesn’t. If it’s clear to one person but not another, there is no clarity. The same is true for fairness. Something that is fair, by definition, has to be all-inclusive of all parties involved – it’s either fair or it isn’t. The introduction of a new ‘Code of Practice for Parking’ provides a wonderful opportunity to provide clarity and fairness for motorists and landowners alike." Lack of standing or landowner authority, and lack of ADR 22. DVLA data is only supplied to pursue parking charges if there is an agreement flowing from the landholder (ref: KADOE rules). It is not accepted that this Claimant (an agent of a principal) has authority from the landowner to issue charges in this place in their own name. The Claimant is put to strict proof that they have standing to make contracts with drivers and litigate in their own name. 23. The Claimant failed to offer a genuinely independent Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR). The Appeals Annex in the new incoming statutory Code shows that genuine disputes such as this would see the charge cancelled, had a fair ADR existed. Whether or not a person engaged with it, the Claimant's consumer blame culture and reliance upon the industry's own 'appeals service' should not sway the court into a belief that a fair appeal was ever on offer. The rival Trade Bodies' time-limited and opaque 'appeals' services fail to properly consider facts or rules of law and reject almost any dispute: e.g. the IAS upheld appeals in a woeful 4% of decided cases (IPC's 2020 Annual Report). Conclusion 24. The claim is entirely without merit. The Defendant believes that it is in the public interest that claims like this should be struck out because knowingly enhanced parking claims like this one cause consumer harm on a grand scale. 25. There is ample evidence to support the view - long held by many District Judges - that these are knowingly exaggerated claims. For HMCTS to only disallow those costs in the tiny percentage of cases that reach hearings whilst other claims to continue to flood the courts unabated, is to fail hundreds of thousands of consumers who suffer CCJs or pay inflated amounts, in fear of intimidating pre-action threats. 26. In the matter of costs, the Defendant asks: (a) at the very least, for standard witness costs for attendance at Court, pursuant to CPR 27.14, and (b) for a finding of unreasonable conduct by this Claimant, seeking costs pursuant to CPR 46.5. 27. Attention is drawn specifically to the (often-seen from this industry) distinct possibility of an unreasonably late Notice of Discontinuance. Whilst CPR r.38.6 states that the Claimant is liable for the Defendant's costs after discontinuance (r.38.6(1)) this does not normally apply to claims allocated to the small claims track (r.38.6(3)). However, the White Book states (annotation 38.6.1): "Note that the normal rule as to costs does not apply if a claimant in a case allocated to the small claims track serves a notice of discontinuance although it might be contended that costs should be awarded if a party has behaved unreasonably (r.27.14(2)(dg))." Statement of Truth I believe that the facts stated in this defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.
    • Hi, I was caught by the security guards today for shoplifting in John Lewis. I think total amount is about £500. They said they saw me on CCTV last week, I was freaked out so I admitted it. I know it’s awful… I cried as I was too scared and begged them pls don’t call the police. They took pics of me and wrote down my details from banking app as I didn’t have any id with me. I told them my difficulties that I was scammed £35k recently and I lost my job so I stole those things and sell them. I apologised and they said they won’t call the police but I’m banned and will receive letters from RLP for fines which including this time and the last time(I didn’t give back the goods I took last time). I know it’s very very bad, I feel shameful and so depressed so hopeless about everything happened. I wonder since it’s a lot of money, will they sue me, take me to the court, or will they change their mind to call the police when they check the cctv footage to check how much I owe them? I said sorry I really couldn’t afford the fine at this situation, they said it’s their job they can’t do anything. Later when I was out of the mall, the security guard said, I can call RLP to negotiate about the fee. Also I’m probably moving to another city in 2 months, so if they want to take me to court but I didn’t receive any letters what should I do… and the security guy told me it’s worse as I traveled to this city and stealing stuff. I’m home now but feeling awful, wish people could give me some advice, thank you very much.
    • Before you do any of the above – Stop! You need to spend a few days reading up on the stories on this sub- forum so that you understand the principles and you understand how to go about making your claim. We will help you – and you have a better than 95% chance of getting your money back – but you need to be in control of what you are doing. We will help you – but this is a self-help forum and you need to have done the reading so that you are confident of each step and you know your way forward. Please don't do anything at all – in particular don't send a letter of claim – until you have done all the reading and I would suggest that probably you will start drafting your letter of claim over the weekend. Also, you haven't told us anything about what has happened. We don't know dates, items dispatched, value, whether they were properly declared, whether you bought so-called insurance, you have been declined reimbursement but we don't know why. If you want us to help you then you will have to give us this basic information. Also the fact that you are an eBay trader makes this slightly more complicated although it doesn't at all affect your chances of success.  Read the other threads on this sub- forum – and especially the pinned threads at the top in order to understand the principles. You also quickly understand the kind of help that we will give you and you will understand some of the draft documents which have been used in other successful claims.
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I am having a right nightmare with Kensington mortgage company and need some much appreciated help .

 

I had a suspended possession order granted in oct 2007 as I had lost my job at the nhs and my wife business had collapsed

 

the suspended possession order was issued in oct 2007 for my monthly payment plus £50.00

i think i need to dig it out as it was nearly 6 yearslink3.gif ago i will post later the exact amount

 

I have been making payments over the last few years to Kensington

but also built up massive arrears on my council tax and second secure loan with welcome finance

 

at the mo long story short

 

I have now cleared my 7000 pound arrears with council tax (rossendales ballifs ) april 2013 and

 

got my arrears down to £1095 with welcome finance (was over £5000)

however with doing this I have now got arrears of £20,018.46p as of 19th august 2013 with Kensington.

 

I had an arrangement in feb ,march,april, to pay £636 (monthly payment) to Kensington of which I paid

march £640.00 april £650.00 may £800

 

i only paid £160.00 in feb due to having several other debts elsewhere stupid of me i know !!

 

on the 28th of april when i paid £800

 

i was charged arrears fee of £50 and

 

i was told my arrangement had finished and i needed to fill in income expenditure form

send bank statements in and wage slips to consider a new arrangement for may

 

after filling in all sheets and sending in the above i offerd £636 + £64 off the arrears (£700.00 a month

 

after 19 days i got a letter stating this had been declined and was advised to up my offer so

 

i didn't make a payment in may as i wanted an arangement setup so i knew what i was paying

 

i will explain later (don't want to go on but arragrements have been declined lots of other times over the past 5 years

until i offered a lot more even if i couldn't afford it so im at the end of my tether and on the verge of giving up !

 

after clearing more debts in mid april and doing a new budget sheet i could offer £636 + an extra £200 .a month off the arrears

 

i sent again budget form,

wage slip,

bank statements and

again the payment proposal was declined after 16 days

stating i couldn't afford the above (even tho the budget form stated i had an extra £204.00 at the end of the month ) offer

as i had stated i would like to pay weekly and the computer calculates some months as 5 weeks

the payment would be nearly £1000 in certain months

 

i didn't pay anything in june as im holding onto my money incase thy issued possession

which they kept stating every time i called them unless an aragement was agreed

 

after sorting the above over the phone along with been told Kensington had inputed my child benefit of £134 into child benefit

and also the same figure int family tax wrong (not £179.00 as stated on the budget form) and explaning the weekly thing

 

i put a new proposal of £640 a month + £200 a month of my arrears which would take roughly 8 years to clear

(still have 22 years on mortgage term)

 

i advised i would start paying at the end of august and was advised the new payment proposal was affordable

and would be given to the senior team (5th of august and boom i get a letter today dated 19th august stating

unless i pay £20,018.46 in 7 days evershields (solicitors ) will apply to the court for the issue of a warrant of possession

 

im holding onto my £840 incase i need to pay a rent deposit

 

in the past i have an arrangement for 3 months

pay it then it ends then seems to take 4-6 weeks to get a new arrangement

 

i get charged £50 a month arrears fee and i can never get an arragemnt set up that's affordable they always decline 1 or 2 times

until i offer a silly amount

 

once i pay that for 3 months the same again the arrangement ends

i have to update my budget forms and again charged £50 a month arrears

except this time agfter 3 months arrangement they wont renew it..

 

please help i don't know what to do !!

 

i called Kensington this evening and was told they sent a letter dated 15th august

stating my 3rd proposal had been declined

and due to previous arrangemnts not been kept

and arrears building up they are seeking evection

 

sorry for the long thread but don't know what to do

regards mark

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If you want to keep your home, you are going about it the wrong way.

 

Stop making offers to pay and then not paying - the court dislike this intensely. At the VERY least you should be making the current monthly instalment (CMI), so that the arrears do not increase.

 

Are you saying the arrears are £20,018.46, or is that the full outstanding amount of the mortgage/loan? If the latter, how much are the actual arrears?

 

Oh...and don't panic. If you can afford an amount to clear the arrears (whatever they are) in the remaining term of the loan, it would be a rare thing for a judge to grant an outright possession order. That said, you state that Eversheds are going for a warrant, which indicates there is already a possession order on the property. If that is the case, when was it granted, and on what terms did the judge suspend it. That is, how much were you supposed to pay towards the arrears?

 

Please confine yourself to answering the specific questions as briefly as possible - we'll get there a lot quicker if there's no waffling.

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the mortgage outstanding balance is £122k with arrears of £20,186 with 22 years 7 months remaining

 

the suspended posession order was issued in oct 2007 for my monthly payment plus £50.00

 

i think i need to dig it out as it was nearly 6 years ago i will post later the exact amount

 

i am on interest only at the moment at £636,00 a month

have tried to offer £700.00 A MONTH WHICH HAS BEEN DECLINED

i have uped my offer to £840 a month Which has been declined even tho now im in a much better financial position

clearly my incomings and outgoings show this

 

i have missed a few payments here and there over the past 6 years since the order was suspended due

to having massive financial difficulties (council tax arrears credit card debts,loans ect )

 

however over the past 6 years i have cleared 90 % of theses debts

had the balliffs breathing dowm my neck for the past 5 (council tax arrears)

 

are you able to try and suspend the suspended possession order again ?

 

shall i pay the monthly payment end of this month (in my own intrest to do so ?

 

kind regards mark

 

What is the best thong to do ?

 

I will pay£840 at end of this month an await the evection notice

 

or should i send some forms to court to plead to keep our. Family home

please help regards mark

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Hi, it will help your case if you pay the £840 you are offering. It would take just over 8 years to pay off the arrears at the rate you have offered .Are you sure you would be able to sustain that level of payment going forward?

Did you make your offer to them in writing? have they declined your offer in writing ?

 

Make the payment and then if you receive the eviction notice we can help you with the application form for the court to get the eviction stopped.

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GOOD MORNING THANKS FOR THE REPLY

FIRSTLY SORRY FOR WAFFLING

 

the mortgage outstanding balance is £122,000 with arrears of ~£20,0186 with 22 years 7 months remaining

 

Surely you mean £20186? If yes, the Norgan compliant figure is £74.49 per month - so there's your answer to why your initial offer was rejected. You cannot offer less than £74.49 a month.

 

the suspended posession order was issued in oct 2007 for my monthly payment plus £50.00 i think i need to dig it out as it was nearly 6 years ago i will post later the exact amount

 

What was the original loan term?

 

i am on intrest only at the moment at £636,00 a month and have tried to offer £700.00 A MONTH WHICH HAS BEEN DECLINED and i have uped my offer to £840 a month Which has been declined even tho now im in a much better financial position ad clearly my incomings and outgoings sho w this

 

As per above, the reason for the refusal to accept your offer is that it doesn't meet the minumum amount you'd need to pay to clear the loan by the end of the term. Plus, because there has been an SPO for the last six years, it is calling into question the affordability of the mortgage.

 

i have missed a few payments here and there over the past 6 years since the order was suspended due to having massive financial difficulties (council tax arrears credit card debts,loans ect ) however over the past 6 years i have cleared 90 % of theses debts had the balliffs breathing dowm my neck for the past 5 (council tax arrears)

 

Okay, time for a reality check - you've missed more than 'a few payments here and there', your arrears indicate that you are almost 32 months behind - that's almost three years of non-payment of your monthly amount.

 

(I suggest you check to see whether additional charges have been added to the arrears figure as the court will not accept anything but missed payments being included in 'arrears' - someone else will direct you on how to do this, it's not an area of interest of mine.)

 

are you able to try and suspend the suspended possession order again ? shall i pay the monthly payment end of this month (in my own intrest to do so ?

kind regards mark

 

It is always in your interests to make the payments you offer - the court likes that. What they don't like is when someone says they've made offers and no one has agreed them, so they don't bother to pay at all. Again, affordability appears to be a very clear issue with the conduct of your mortgage account since the outset, so maybe you bit off more than you could chew? It might be worthwhile considering whether all the stress involved in trying to hold onto the property is worth it...is there equity in the property?

 

I WAFFLE WHEN I PANIC i live with my wife and 2 children 14,12 years old

 

Panicking won't save you, so it's pointless - though entirely understandable.

 

I am extremely concerned that you simply cannot afford this mortgage - you were unable to keep to the court order of CMI plus £50, and your arrears are almost three years worth of missed payments - I know you have said that your finances have changed, but have they really? Be honest with yourself - as making an offer of £840 per month and then failing to keep to it is really going to fail to impress a judge if you have to return to court for another stay in the future.

 

My thought is that a judge will look at the offer, look at the history and ask himself 'why is this person going to stick to an offer four times greater than the original order?' and come up wanting unless there has been a substantial financial change...

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thanks for the reply

yes I meant 20186

 

the term was 30 years I had arrears of over 11000 with other debts

I had an arrangement every 3 months and then it took another month to arrange another arrangemt so I was charged £50 arrears fee this has happened over the last 3 or 4 years

my wife was out of work 2007-2012

also 2012 I was on a reduced payment scheme with customer liaison officer £300 a month for a year

got a pay rise april 2013 £2500 a year

cleared attachment of earnings (c tax ) £113 a month

cleared ballif account £200 a month

 

so yes a lot better off

I feel £840 is a bit much and asked for this to try and save my house since they turned down the £700 a month

I feel £750/£800 is more realistic

should I pay £750 and write a letter to offer the above to mortgage company ?

and then await the evection date ?

yes the cmi + £50 was arranged by the judge however after 6 months Kensington told me I had to up my payments ?

the arrears also include intrest,arrears charges,2 years building insurance even tho I had sent in recorded delivery my own buildings insurance)

I feel im at a lost cause and may need to consider renting ?

regards mark

as you state above I feel the judge will favour Kensington :(

 

pay rise extra £2500 oops :)

 

thanks ell-enn yes sent in writing and recived back the decline in writing

£840 is a bit much £800 is more realistic

regards mark

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You say Kensington told you that you had to increase your payments after a judge ordered you to pay £50 per month? They can't do that without going back to court - do you have the demand for higher payments in writing from them ?

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Unfortunaly not in writing .

 

i would have an arangement for 3 months which I paid and then when it ended

they would advise me a new aragement would only be considerd if the amount I offerd was larger

than the previous offer

 

also thinking about it are they able to still charge me 50 a month arrears for no arangement

even tho th court had set and an arrangement and

 

when I was paying the amount the court agreed they still charged mw 50 amonth arrears fee

 

im pooing my pants now and don't know what to do I haven't made a payment since end of may

 

since my last arragement ended im paying £750 on 28th august what shall I do next kind regards mark :'(

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If you can prove you are financially better off, the judge will not favour Kensington. It is only if affordability is an issue that the judge will have to seriously consider awarding possession to them.

 

Do an I&E and work out what you can comfortably afford, whilst leaving yourself with a little on the side for emergencies. Present your I&E in court to back up what you say. You must be able to maintain the offer you make, so make it realistic.

 

As Ell said, they can't increase your monthly payments in a court order - however, if you breached the court order, they can decide either to execute the warrant or tell you that you need to make another payment plan.

 

Good luck.

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I can afford £750 a month after doing ie form .as I have 1 suspended posseion order what do I do next ? I'm paying Kensington £750 on 28th august I've phoned them with my intensions and be told solicitors are applying for warrant im getting scared now they won't accept the above offer of £750 a month

Please help regards mark

 

Hello what shall I di next wait fir the evection letter ? Please help regards mark

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Hi there, can you make a payment now? if so you should make the payment and then write to them confirming your offer and stating you have already made payment in line with your offer. I can draft a letter for you if you wish?

 

You say you completed an I & E - was it the one we normally use on this forum ? if not complete this budget sheet and let me know when you have done it http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=31141&d=1320168516 the sheet calculates automatically as you fill it in.

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I have missed june and july payments ? would this cause issue ?

I will pay them £750.00 on 28th august followed by £750.00 a month

if you could draft a letter that would be amazing as Im rubbish at things like that

I paid £640 march, £650.00 april and £800 in may and then nothing after that as I have been trying to get an arrangement set up

I will fill in the budget sheet you have supplied

your a star ell :) x

 

the letter from the solicitor states :we refer to the above order made by xxxxx court and write to advise that the order has now become enforceable

we will apply to the court for issue of a warrant of possession the only way action will be cancelled is on clearance of the arrears in full within seven days

if we don't here from you we will apply for an evection data this action may be taken without further notice.

 

thanks mark

ps I have filled budget sheet in (hope I have done it right ?)

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Hi, if you'd like me to look at your budget sheet you can email it to me at [email protected] (there is no space between the c and o, the site just shows it like that). I will draft a letter and post it here, you need to send on Tuesday morning by recorded delivery. If you can make payment before tuesday, print off proof of the payment so we can attach it to the letter.

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Hi, would just like to add please try not to panic. If you do a search for my threads you will see that Ell-en and all on here have saved me from Kensington a few times. Pay this Months on the 30th as Kensington always work on the end of the month anyway. Take a deep breath you are in safe hands. From now on though do EVERYTHING in writing Kensingon are sharks. Good luck

 

Olive xxx

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Thanks olive for the support just need help with my offer letter and await an evection date trying my best not to worry ! As they are evil also as there was a suspended order issued in 2007 do U think I have a chance of staying in our home can U suspend it again ?? Just wish I knew what the future held :'(

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Hi Marek, letter affixed - enclose a copy of your budget sheet- send by recorded or special delivery and keep the receipt safe to you can check on the royalmail website a few days after posting to print off the signature confirmation - keep the confirmation safe with your copy letter in case we need them to go with an N244 to defend eviction.

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Thanks so much sorry been really down this past couple of days I have printed and posted the letter had to change arrears offer to 130. 00 as mortgage payment is 636.01 and I am offering 766.00 a month :-P awaiting response and evection letter im paying them Friday £766.01 lets see what happens :'(

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after sending the budget form and a cover letter with a new payment proposal that ell provided along with paying the £766.01

 

3 days later I get a phone call tonight 6.15

stating the 3rd offer has been turned down due to my history in the past a

nd Kensington are going to apply for an evection date PLEASE HELP !!

 

cant handle any more of the stress !

 

I was then told that Kensington would call me on the 20th sept to see if I could put forward a better offer ?

 

this is the third one they have turned down and yeas I agree my past history has be terrible due to being in so much debt

but now im in a better financial position and have cleared 85% of all other previous debts what the hell can I do ?

 

should I just go bankrupt ?

 

or seek a council house or even housing accosiation ?

 

as im running out of time. please replay regards mark

 

Not going to sleep tonight :(

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Hi, I've been away for a few days and only just got back. Can I catch up with you in the morning ? we can then start to prepare a N244 form to put into court to have the eviction stopped.

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If you get a hearing in front of a judge it is his decision what happens, Kensington have no say in it - they can tell you what they like over the phone but it means nothing in court. If you have sent them a written offer, made a payment in line with your offer and can show the judge that your financial circumstances have improved then you have every chance of getting the eviction stopped.

 

You should read the Repossession Successes forum - there are lots of people who have stopped eviction several times and I've no reason to think you won't be sucessful too :)

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I understand this must be a very stressful time for both you and your wife, but it is very important that you are calm and try to reassure your wife that things can work out for you. You need to be strong for each other at this time, there is nothing to be gained by arguing or blaming each other - thousands of people are in, or have been in, the same situation as yourselves through circumstances beyond their control.

 

Please try to stay positive, I am sure you will be ok :)

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