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    • Paper trail off the original creditor often confirms the default and issue of a notice...not having or being able to disclose the actual copy or being able to produce a copy less so.
    • Including Default Notice Andy? Ok, I think this is the best I can do.. it all makes sense with references to their WS. They have included exhibits that dates don't match the WS about them, small but still.. if you're going to reference letters giving dates, then the exhibits should be correct, no? I know I redacted them too much, but one of the dates differs to the WS by a few months. IN THE ******** County Court Claim No. [***] BETWEEN: LC Asset 2 S.A.R.L CLAIMANT AND [***] DEFENDANT ************ _________________________ ________ WITNESS STATEMENT OF [***] _________________________ ________ I, [***], being the Defendant in this case will state as follows; I make this Witness Statement in support of my defence in this claim. 1. I understand that the claimant is an Assignee, a buyer of defunct or bad debts, which are bought on mass portfolios at a much-reduced cost to the amount claimed and which the original creditors have already written off as a capital loss and claimed against taxable income as confirmed in the claimant’s witness statement exhibit by way of the Deed of Assignment. As an assignee or creditor as defined in section 189 of the CCA this applies to this new requirement on assignment of rights. This means that when an assignee purchases debts (or otherwise acquires rights under a credit agreement) it also acquires certain obligations to the borrower including the duty to comply with CCA requirements (such as the rules on statements and notices and other post-contractual information). The assignee becomes the creditor under the agreement. This ensures that essential consumer protections under the CCA cannot be circumvented by assigning the debt to a third party. 2. The Claim relates to an alleged Credit Card agreement between the Defendant and Bank of Scotland plc. Save insofar of any admittance it is accepted that the Defendant has had contractual agreements with Bank of Scotland plc in the past, the Defendant is unaware as to what alleged debt the Claimant refers. 3. The Defendant requested a copy of the CCA on the 24/12/2022 along with the standard fee of £1.00 postal order, to which the defendant received a reply from the Claimant dated 06/02/2023. To this date, the Claimant has failed to disclose a valid agreement and proof as per their claim that this is enforceable, that Default Notice and Notice of Assignment were sent to and received by the Defendant, on which their claim relies. The Claimant is put to strict proof to verify and confirm that the exhibit *** is a true copy of the agreement and are the true Terms and Conditions as issued at the time of inception of the online application and execution of the agreement. 4. Point 3 is noted. The Claimant pleads that a default notice has been served upon the defendant as evidenced by Exhibit [***]. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 5. Point 6 is noted and disputed. The Defendant cannot recall ever having received the notice of assignment as evidenced in the exhibit marked ***. The claimant is put to strict proof to verify the service of the above in accordance with s136 and s196 Law of Property Act 1925. 6. Point 11 is noted and disputed. See 3. 7. Point 12 is noted, the Defendant doesn’t recall receiving contact where documentation is provided as per the Claimants obligations under CCA. In addition, the Claimant pleads letters were sent on dates given, yet those are not the letters evidenced in their exhibits *** 8. Point 13 is noted and denied. Claimant is put to strict proof to prove allegations. 9. The Claimant did not provide a true copy of the CCA in response to the Defendants request of 24/12/2022. The Claimant further claims that the documents are sufficient to pursue a Judgement and are therefore copies of original documents in their possession. Conclusion 10. Without the Claimant providing a valid true copy of the executed Credit agreement that complies with the CCA, the Claimant has no grounds on which to enforce this alleged debt. 11. The Defendant was not given ample evidence to prove the debt and therefore was not required to enter settlement negotiations. Should the debt be proved in the future, the Defendant is willing to enter such negotiations with the Claimant. On receipt of this claim I could not recall the precise details of the agreement or any debt and sought clarity from the claimant by way of a Section 78 request. The Claimant failed to comply. I can only assume as this was due to the Claimant not having any enforceable documentation and issuing a claim in hope of an undefended default judgment.   Statement of Truth I, ********, the Defendant, believe the facts stated within this Witness Statement to be true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in it’s truth. Signed: _________________________ _______ Dated: _____________________
    • AMEX and TSB the 2 Creditors who you need to worry about the least, ever!  Just stop paying them and forget about it, ignore all their threat o gram letters.  Only if, and with these 2 it's a massive if, you end up with a claim form you need to respond, and there will be plenty of help here.
    • No, nothing from Barclays. Turns out i have 2 accounts on here, and i posted originally on the other one. Sorry about that.  
    • Always send with proof of posting from your Post Office, so there is a trail. Conversations , are designed to intimidate into paying, Emails are designed as another way of bombarding. Only EVER communicate in writing, by post.  
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Hi

 

Their registered office is the same as HFC (all part of HSBC) and is

 

CAMDEN HOUSE WEST,

THE PARADE

BIRMINGHAM

B1 3PY

 

I'd write to endeavour at that address

 

However, before you do anything, have you got your agreement and statements of account?

 

You should really complete a spreadsheet of claim and a fos questionnaire.

 

What have you got regarding this loan?

 

ims

 

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The loan dates back to 2001 and I have got all the original paperwork including the pre-completed credit agreement with ppi ticked for me, another important aspect i thought was the fact that the terms and conditions of the ppi were posted after the credit agreement had been returned.

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Good luck with these...they like giving you the run around! Was the loan direct with them or through a broker? I would be interested in seeing the pre-completed agreement if you can PM me with it as I don't have mine and they say they don't have it!It might jog my memory :)

Emmtay

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A broker was used in the initial contact do you guys think enderour could use this to try and wriggle out of there obligations / responsibilities towards the sale of the ppi ? my initial thoughts are focusing around the point of sale of the ppi which would have been when the credit agreement was signed.with endevour and not the broker, would i be correct in thinking this ? and advice would be much appreciated.....

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hi there, can you advise therefore whether it is ocean finance or endeavour that has to answer re mis selling of the ppi claim as I have similar issue.

 

Whoever you were paying

 

ims

 

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Hi there - I too recently came across an old loan I had with Endeavour PF (also 2001). I only have a copy of the Credit Agreement - but that has all the relevant details - including the box ticked for PPI and shows the loaned amount split into 'loan' and 'PPI'

BUT - ref comments above. This is headed 'Unregulated Credit Agreement' (which I wouldn't have picked up on at the time). Does this blow any potential claim out of the water?

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Hi there - I too recently came across an old loan I had with Endeavour PF (also 2001). I only have a copy of the Credit Agreement - but that has all the relevant details - including the box ticked for PPI and shows the loaned amount split into 'loan' and 'PPI'

BUT - ref comments above. This is headed 'Unregulated Credit Agreement' (which I wouldn't have picked up on at the time). Does this blow any potential claim out of the water?

 

no

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi there!

 

I would just like to add to your post - I am in the process of going after Ocean Finance/Endeavour Personal Finance and after having the runaround for a long time I decided to complain to the Financial Ombudsman Service. On 1st February 2012 I received a letter from FOS advising that they had sent a copy of my letter and complaint form to: Ms Rowena Daley, HFC Bank Ltd, Camden House West Parade, Birmingham B1 3PY and that they had 8 weeks to respond to me. They also advised that I should send a copy to them also which I did and I am just waiting to hear what they have to say.

 

I will say that Ocean/Endeavour have really taken the mickey out of me for the past few years however I have now decided that I will take this all the way to court if I have to so hopefully they will just cough up.

 

Best wishes in your fight!

Worstutility

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urm..hfc is linked to ocean?

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi there,

I have just received some correspondence from EPF and they are trying to play the “Broker” card.

Would I be correct in saying that under S56 Consumer Credit Act the creditor / borrower is responsible for the actions of the broker?

Many many thanks for your assistance.

Iain

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Hi there,

I have just received some correspondence from EPF and they are trying to play the “Broker” card.

Would I be correct in saying that under S56 Consumer Credit Act the creditor / borrower is responsible for the actions of the broker?

Many many thanks for your assistance.

Iain

 

Hi

 

Yes it is useful, especially if you have a regulated agreement

 

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