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Im betting its not going to be that easy.

 

Natwest had til 2day to respond to my claim, but Ive heard nothing. What do I have to do next?

 

Anything? Sit back and count my money?

 

Ive read loads on defences being submitted and Nobbits getting shifty and Alocation questionaires. But Ive heard nothing apart from a confirmation letter from the court ages ago.

 

Hey maybe they've lost my claim ha ha!!

 

But where do I need to go from here, on the step by step it says submit a judgement?

 

Any more info on that?

 

Cant wait to get my cash back as I need the default taken off my CRFile and I want the money to fund my other claims which Im holding back with. (oh yes I 4got so I can donate as well)

 

Thanks guys, in adavnce

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HSBC £1200 - Settled in Full

Cap 1 2 X £100 - Settled in Full

Nationwide £1641 - Settled in Full inc Default and CCJ Removed by Court Order

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Hi There

 

I think that on the moneyclaim form you can ask for judgement to be entered against them because they have not entered their defence. But from reading around it seems like they just enter it late anyway and get away with it....

 

But have a look on your Moneyclaim form and click on the Start that is underlined and there it gives you your options.

 

Think this is right anyway!

 

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i dint do mcol, i did it the old fashioned way. so do i need to go back to the court? or can i file judgement online?

 

wat exactly is a judgement anyway?

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did you get any paper work from the court stating a claim number, if so there should be a part on it to file judgement, fill it in and take it into court, judgement means that you have won by default, or should I say it should mean that, but with the courts and cobbetts it doesent work that way, cobbetts filed their defence 8 days late in my case, and the court allowed it, so get it in as soon as you can

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Ok thanks. Yes I can see it now its on the bottom of the form. So if they had to reply by today can I submit the form today? (yes I am that mean)

 

Will that put a stop to them submitting a defence?

 

How can the courts allow them to do this - surely thats is why these proceedures are in place and set with timescales.

 

Would we as people (in the sense not big Plc or Ltd) by allowed to get away with submitting things late - I bet not!

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Yes i know the feeling, not your problem they are late. They pay up in the end anyway i suppose. Yes you can file it now. Give it a go. Good Luck.

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What if I file my judgement then they submit theyre defence late? Will it be allowed or will I have won by default?

 

They havent even acknowledged yet (ive not heard from Nat wets or Nobbits), or could they have acknoweldged just to the court?

 

Must get this right as Im going to the court 1st thing in the morning!!

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HSBC £1200 - Settled in Full

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Nationwide £1641 - Settled in Full inc Default and CCJ Removed by Court Order

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Hi I would say hang fire for another day. Icould have filed my judgment on Tues 03/10/06 but something told me to wait and lo and behold the papers from Cobbetts arrived today and defence was listed as of 30/09/06

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Im not that clued up to be honest on what exactly a judgement is. Surely it can be a good thing though not to give them the extra time and register the judgement if they have not responded on time?

 

Yes/no?

 

Surely it forces them to cough up sooner than wait another 28 days for them to just mess you around

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DH has just gone up PO with boglins to sort it out for RD as per discussions!

 

I know your claimis slighty different to mine, but apprx how long before I get a reply?

 

Have you picked that up anywhere on here?

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DH has just gone up PO with boglins to sort it out for RD as per discussions!

 

I know your claimis slighty different to mine, but apprx how long before I get a reply?

 

Have you picked that up anywhere on here?

 

They always seem to have a 2 week turna around for correspondance. Sometimes less depending on how standard their reply is and whether they have to think or not!

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Ah well. I have been advised to post my letter on here as well.

 

So will type an edited version (edited out the B******t not the facts) when I get a mo!!

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OK. Why is nothing with this claim straight forward.

 

First off on receipt of my AQ I realised my case had been transferred (without me knowing) to manchester, some 500miles round trip.

 

I have been calling both courts every day all week to try to sort this out, as AQ has to be posted by tomorow at lastest (date due 6 nov).

 

Was advised by Manchester not to post AQ until a further directional hearing has been heard. I have called time and time again, but each time, I get told my file is still with the judge and somebody will contact me to let me know what is happening!!!

 

Ok no answer as of 530 today.

 

Im am going away tomoro at noon, so have decided to take a plunge and complete the AQ anyway.

 

problem 1 - its N150

problem 2 - it has pages missing.

 

I do not understand what it means (dispite reading the template about applications), I do not understand what it means "applications".

 

I think it has all been left to late for me, due to both courts complete mis mangement.

 

Does anybody know if I can have any redress because of this if my claim gets struck out on Monday?

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Is the AQ due Monday?

There are templates in the library to fill it in and also a link to downaload and fill in and print online - you can then fax to whichever court claims to have your file - post cheque if they agree or drop it into court before you go away.

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Gizz - they transferred my case (without my knowledge) to manchester. With thebest willintheworld I cant get up there to drop the cheque in.

 

I have done the AQ now, and am gona fon them today. I willpost the AQ first class recorded delivery and if they claim it was late ,I wil respectfully reminind the court that the defences defence was 3 days late, justout of pure bloody mindedness, whereas my AQ is late befcause the courts dont have a clue whatthey are doing!!!!

 

Obviously Im not going to say this!!

 

Anyway I ll do what I have to do this end and talk to them again on monday, if they not received it i will post on here for furthr advice!

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HSBC £1200 - Settled in Full

Cap 1 2 X £100 - Settled in Full

Nationwide £1641 - Settled in Full inc Default and CCJ Removed by Court Order

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Woolwich £3690 - Settled in Full

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Just want to check this is normal way of things!

 

I received a copy of Cobbetts AQ today in the post? Is that normal?

 

Additionally, it got me thinking - should I have sent them a copy of mine?

 

I mean the very fact that the courts have no idead where my paperwork is, or the fact that they do not know what on earth to do with it, I think the Aq is the least of my problems!!

 

Bet they will still cash my cheque though!!!

 

Oh well have decided to start my other court cases today rather than wait for a settlement from these, will have to start to new threads, wonder how Nationwide and Wooley are settling there claims?

 

A responce to my pre ramblings would be much appreciated?

Allyxia

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HSBC £1200 - Settled in Full

Cap 1 2 X £100 - Settled in Full

Nationwide £1641 - Settled in Full inc Default and CCJ Removed by Court Order

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Woolwich £3690 - Settled in Full

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Just want to check this is normal way of things!

 

I received a copy of Cobbetts AQ today in the post? Is that normal?

 

Additionally, it got me thinking - should I have sent them a copy of mine?

 

I mean the very fact that the courts have no idead where my paperwork is, or the fact that they do not know what on earth to do with it, I think the Aq is the least of my problems!!

 

Bet they will still cash my cheque though!!!

 

Oh well have decided to start my other court cases today rather than wait for a settlement from these, will have to start to new threads, wonder how Nationwide and Wooley are settling there claims?

 

A responce to my pre ramblings would be much appreciated?

 

Yes as a matter of courtesy you should send the other party copy of AQ - but no big problem if you haven't.

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Ah balls to them, in which part of this claim have they been showing any courtesy to me with their threatening letters and B**Ls**T.

 

As I know its not going to get to court, i cant see how a judge can make it go against me!!!

 

What can I expect to happen next gizz?

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HSBC £1200 - Settled in Full

Cap 1 2 X £100 - Settled in Full

Nationwide £1641 - Settled in Full inc Default and CCJ Removed by Court Order

NatWest £2215.60- Settled in Full and Removed Default Natice

Woolwich £3690 - Settled in Full

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Nah already had that!!!

 

Actaully I had apprx 75-80% of my claim, it was rejected on the basis of no removal of the default, the fact I incurred £230 worth of costs, beside all the muckign about they've done - they can cough up the interest now.

 

My orginal claim before costs etc etc was £1490, they offered £1100, may have considered it before I had filed with the court! but now no chance!

 

So what do you think will happen next - from both the court end and cobberts!!!

 

Did I answer your post yesturday bTW? (or am i dreaming about this site again)

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The Banks are somewhere which lends you an umberella when it is sunny, and takes it away when it rains

 

HSBC £1200 - Settled in Full

Cap 1 2 X £100 - Settled in Full

Nationwide £1641 - Settled in Full inc Default and CCJ Removed by Court Order

NatWest £2215.60- Settled in Full and Removed Default Natice

Woolwich £3690 - Settled in Full

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Nah already had that!!!

 

Actaully I had apprx 75-80% of my claim, it was rejected on the basis of no removal of the default, the fact I incurred £230 worth of costs, beside all the muckign about they've done - they can cough up the interest now.

 

My orginal claim before costs etc etc was £1490, they offered £1100, may have considered it before I had filed with the court! but now no chance!

 

So what do you think will happen next - from both the court end and cobberts!!!

 

Did I answer your post yesturday bTW? (or am i dreaming about this site again)

 

Which one?

 

I expect they will stick on the default then and offer F&F £ amount in week or so - they offered me yesterday all charges and interest including s69 int but excluding the loan part of the interest and s69 int on that - cheques wil lbe here by weekend - but I want the whole lot so lets see what they say.

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Gizz just noticed this on mine - it implies I havent done something correctly?

 

I have re read it and as someone who spends most of their time writing up thesis,court reports, mental health reports and publishing research i can honestly say I have never come across a such a pile of mumbo jumbo in mylife.

 

it appears to be a case of why use 4 words when 60 will do......anyway have a read and let me know if its their usual scare tactics (someone should tell these muppets halloween was last week!!!)

 

I got this -

 

The claimant has not shown that she has reasonable grounds for bringing this claim and despite the defendant requesting that the Claimant remedy the lack of particulary pleaded in the Particulars of claim, the claimant has failed to do so. Inlight of this the defendant may amend its defence or apply to strike out.

 

Im assuming (in the poor english depsite holding an degree in law) what they are saying is I should have by now sent them the evidence of why i think their charges are unlawful, when the whole basis of my claim, request they they indeed prove to me that their charges are lawful?

 

Dont know what you are going to do about yours, but if it was me and the amount you are claiming I would bank the cheque and then write tothem saying ta for the dosh but Im going to proceed for my interest.

 

Im sure as S**t someone esle has claimed this back on here!! and won!!

Allyxia

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HSBC £1200 - Settled in Full

Cap 1 2 X £100 - Settled in Full

Nationwide £1641 - Settled in Full inc Default and CCJ Removed by Court Order

NatWest £2215.60- Settled in Full and Removed Default Natice

Woolwich £3690 - Settled in Full

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Hi Al,

 

I got the same mumbo jumbo from them in this claim http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/natwest-bank/41199-nat-west-2nd-claim.html which is my 2nd.

 

I will have to see what the conditions of cashing the cheque are as I want that interest - if I hadn't been charged I wouldn't have had to pay it - and if they don't cough it up then it means they are profiting from the charges - still let them expalin it to a judge! I like going to court!

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