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Suspension restrictions are established to facilitate specific activities like filming or construction, therefore, we anticipate the vehicle owner to relocate the vehicle from the suspended area until the specified date and time when the suspension concludes. Leaving a vehicle unattended for any period of time within a suspended bay, effectively renders the vehicle parked in contravention and a Civil Enforcement Officer (CEO) may issue a PCN. Finally, the vehicle was left parked approximately 5 metres away from the closest time plate notice. It is the responsibility of the driver to ensure they park in a suitable parking place and check all signs and road markings prior to leaving their vehicle parked in contravention. It remains the driver's responsibility to ensure that the vehicle is parked legally at all times. With that being said, I would have to inform you, your appeal has been rejected at this stage. Please see the below images as taken by the CEO whilst issuing the PCN: You should now choose one of the following options: Pay the penalty charge. We will accept the discounted amount of £65.00 in settlement of this matter, provided it is received by 10 June 2024. After that date, the full penalty charge of £130.00 will be payable. Or Wait for a Notice to Owner (NtO) to be issued to the registered keeper of the vehicle, who is legally responsible for paying the penalty charge. Any further correspondence received prior to the NtO being issued may not be responded to. The NtO gives the recipient the right to make formal representations against the penalty charge. If we reject those representations, there will be the right of appeal to the Environment and Traffic Adjudicator.   Gee st pdf.pdf
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I will send today (already printed the letters off), but my court case is on Tuesday. Their letter to me was dated 7th August. I will hand post a copy to the court today, and there is a post office open in Asda all day, so I'll send the Abbey letter today special delivery. I don't know why the woman at MCOL would have said I don't need to contact Abbey.

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well after receiving a letter a few weeks back from Abbey telling me they would be applying for a stay, I have heard nothing. today's the day. I'm in Court at 11.50am. If you're watching Rekka, see you there!

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well back home. Abbey showed up, tried the waiting room intimidation. Seems the judge decided to stay it. Abbey didn't even need to make the application. I did say my case was an old one, and felt it shouldn't be stayed. Nothing I could have done. Feel crushed. :(

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Hi Claire

 

Oh poor you - yet ANOTHER waste of time.:mad:

 

It seems as though it is not only the banks that use intimidation and abuse of process.

 

Why the hell couldn't the DJ have informed you of his decision by post?? Not only did you waste your time, and stress, no doubt, but it is also a complete waste of court resources.

 

Did the Judge say you had leave to appeal against the stay, or was permission refused?

 

I really feel for you - hope you are okay.

 

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Hi Jo. Nothing was mentioned about an appeal, but I did say I objected to it. The Judge had made his decision before I even got there I think. Shame I had to take a day off work. Like you said, the DJ could have written to me. I just hope now the test case works in our favour

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Nope and neither should anyone else..........

 

The Judge in my hearing at the Mercantile Courts Leeds held that the stay placed on my claims will be lifted automatically after the Jan Hearing has finished........and before any appeals to be heard to!!

 

Patience........as Lula would say "is a dirty word!"........but it holds!

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Fight incompetance, stupidity, greed and unfairness......There's no excuse and no place for it in society, unless they really are! :wink:

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Patience........as Lula would say "is a dirty word!"........but it holds!

 

watch it Frenchy!!! language!!!:o

Lula

 

Lula v Abbey - Settled

Lula v Abbey (2) - Settled

Lula v Abbey (3) - Stayed

 

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Nope and neither should anyone else..........

 

The Judge in my hearing at the Mercantile Courts Leeds held that the stay placed on my claims will be lifted automatically after the Jan Hearing has finished........and before any appeals to be heard to!!

 

Patience........as Lula would say "is a dirty word!"........but it holds!

 

Has this now been lifted as I haven't heard anything? Do I have to take any action at the moment, or do I wait?

 

All help appreciated

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Well my case is now a couple of years old, and is still stayed. I was made redundant at the end of October as part of a full site closure. The redundancy money (what little there was of 3 years service) has now dried up. I'm struggling to get back in to work. I have a loan and VISA that I have to pay each month. Do you think I might have a chance of them reassesing under hardship? Does anybody know if any of these stays are being lifted, or how long it will be until the high courts make a ruling?

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I'm busy claiming against the Abbey and using the FSA hardship rules to avoid being stayed.................my thoughts on this are.....if you don't ask, you don't get...and while some Banks are being hugely difficult in their approach to hardship claims (eg Lloyds ) Abbey seem to be more prepared to listen.

 

So,go for it girl. ;)

 

And read Tuttsi's thread about what's involved

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http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/bank-templates-library/154154-hardship-stayed-claims-j.html

 

 

I quoted them the FSA guidelines as well, just for good measure

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I hope so, like you said there's alot of us, and we need out money back. I'm sure the banks are rubbing their hands at the moment. The longer they can hang on to money, the better it is for them. I also wondered if the credit crunch might hold off any judgement, as the government has been bailing banks out. (I'm not sure where it's up to at the high courts right now)

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