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    • pdf's merged and properly named. thread title updated. word fine replaced by charge in post one....they are not fines mere speculative invoices. just type no need to keep hitting quote.   dx  
    • Nice work dx, much what I thought and glad to have it confirmed by the expert. Radio silence remains my game plan, I have been resident in Scotland since birth and although I had moved a couple of years prior to defaulting, all addresses were updated and I am confident all begging letters are coming to my current home address. I appreciate the info that they probably wouldn't get a claim in by Aug anyway - I think I'll hunt out my big box of badness in the next few days just to see if I can find any default notice letters so I can pin down some dates to satisfy my semi-OCD. Much obliged, and unlike some others i will look to update in the future as I certainly intend to send them the SB letter as I like to pull the chains of these types of cretins! Of course i'll be back to confirm the correct procedure if I get any "proper" legal letters other than the usual Overdales toilet paper type of scare tactic.  
    • statute barring in Scotland is 5yrs from last payment/use date or date of default Notice + 14 days, whichever is the later. dont confuse that with the 6yrs debts show on credit files (DN's 6th bday regardless to payment or not). they'd never get a claim raised by august in 99% of cases . as long all these debts were taken out whilst resident in scotland and you have not moved since taking them out but failed to inform the original creditor before the debt sale....... then stay radio silent until sb date is reached. then if you wish send our scottish sb letter. just remember unlike E&W in scotland debts are extinguished, dead , gone , parrot. once SB'd dx  
    • Hi all, Love this site and it's no nonsense advice, have dipped in and out of the consumer forums over the years, mostly to assure myself that what I was doing was the right thing when dealing with various businesses (almost 100% success rate, thanks in part to reading and more reading here.). Anyway, the time is almost approaching where I might need to ask for some specific help and I have a couple of queries that I can't see definitively answered. Due to financial mismanagement and severe anxiety issues I stopped paying all unsecured debt in December 2018 (one slipped to the first week in Jan 2019 when the last payment was made having rechecked my bank statement from that period - all my unsecured debt direct debits were cancelled in early Jan 2019). This has left half a dozen debts;  a couple of credit cards, a bank loan, Shop Direct and some Hitachi Finance stuff having been sold on and passing the rounds through the usual suspects, Lowells, Link, PRA Group, others related to them, and then back to them again. I have somehow successfully managed to maintain radio silence and avoided anything more worrying than their begging letters.  I have blocked their phone calls and texts, bumped all emails to the spambox and had a chuckle at their desperate letters.  I've never had anybody at the door.  I have been at the same address since before I defaulted and all correspondence comes to my current home address.  I have NEVER contacted them or admitted any debt. In anticipation of them perhaps ramping up action at the last minute I've had a look at my credit report on Credit Karma (rec'd from this very place) and I see that the default dates on these range from May 2019 to November 2019. Also in preperation I've been reading, reading and reading lots here as advised. Obviously being in Scotland there are a lot fewer posts relating to these matters and it's always quite annoying when OP's do not follow up with any outcome on their cases - how rude! This has also left me a bit confused of when I am able to finally breathe easy (although cancelling all the direct debits in Jan 2019 was the biggest sigh of relief as I knew it was all going to be unmanageable and, well, default one, default all.). I've been reading that defaults should be filed 3-6 months after the missed payment but one of my larger debts was defaulted on 27th August 2019 when the last payment I made was 10th December 2018, meaning the first missed payment was 10th Jan 2019.   My query for now is - when should I infer that these debts are prescribed?  From when the payment was missed, or taking the default date plus 5 years from the credit report? The three I have with the May date are moot anyway as either way they are gone  - some letters from Lowell offering me 90% off to settle is what got me thinking these must have been near SB status, however I have one big 10k+ with a July date and another 10k+ at the end of August I am feeling a bit anxious again, even though I know there is nothing to worry about with the begging letters.  Reading the various forums I am not sure why the OC's didn't take action against me when I read time and again the surprise that other posters haven't already been taken to court for lesser amounts - I'm also surprised I've avoided any action this long as there are plenty in this forum and sub forum who are whisked off to the court by the beggers minions after only a year or so after defaulting.  There are no CCJ/decrees listed on my credit report and I have not received any such judgements against me.  I still just regularly receive the begging emails to the spambox, the blocked phone calls and the letters from the they. I'm also reading that there is no need in Scotland to send an LBC so what should I be looking out for to know that the time has come to engage with CCA requests etc? I'm afraid in a fit I threw a lot of the paperwork out but I have a box of stuff I'm going to go through which may have the original letters from the OC's. Thanks in advance for any advice.  
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Hi everyone,

 

I'm a newbie but i have scoured this forum for as much info as possible and am now ready to take on HSBC!!!!

 

I found out about the possibility of getting charges back from an abbey asst branch manager at the weekend and took it from there. I found this group read as much as i thought i needed to and my DPA letter is getting posted tommorrow afternoon once i finish work.

 

I'm all excited and everything!!!

 

I'll keep you posted.

 

If you want any inside information on how the high street banks are treating all this then just ask as someone very close to me works for Abbey in a high street branch. They have had meetings all week about charges and what they're doing(or not as the case may be) about it.

 

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good work there davy

 

any info you can divulge about the current situation the banks are facing and what they are planning to do about it would be very greatly appreciated

HSBC- £4995, settled payment in full

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As far as i can gather Abbey are one of the only banks that wont be reducing its charges giving it the "In your terms and conditions" bull. The general stance is you go over your limit then your getting charged.The cashiers on the counter have been told they cannot under any circumstances discuss any charges on customers accounts and they must be directed to the advisors on the main desks. After which you have to go through a lengthy discussion about your account If your charges are an abbey mistake then the charges will be refunded but the manager of the branch no longer has the discretion to do this and it has to be directed to the complaints dept. So unless the customer has any idea of their rights (as i didn't untill i found this forum) they are going to get no-where.

 

I'll keep you posted as i find out more.

 

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As far as i can gather Abbey are one of the only banks that wont be reducing its charges giving it the "In your terms and conditions" bull. The general stance is you go over your limit then your getting charged.The cashiers on the counter have been told they cannot under any circumstances discuss any charges on customers accounts and they must be directed to the advisors on the main desks. After which you have to go through a lengthy discussion about your account If your charges are an abbey mistake then the charges will be refunded but the manager of the branch no longer has the discretion to do this and it has to be directed to the complaints dept. So unless the customer has any idea of their rights (as i didn't untill i found this forum) they are going to get no-where.

 

I'll keep you posted as i find out more.

 

DayvG

 

this is a similar direction to a number of banks, they are taking responsibility away from the managers, as they are usually the first port of call, plus its a lot easier to say no over the phone

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Update!!!

 

Got all my statements through and its totalled £2690.75p plus £163.75 interest on penalties. Doing my next letter as we speak ready to be sent tomorrow. Bring it on. Getting all excited now!!!

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Update!!!

 

Got all my statements through and its totalled £2690.75p plus £163.75 interest on penalties. Doing my next letter as we speak ready to be sent tomorrow. Bring it on. Getting all excited now!!!

 

is the £163.75 the 8% apr interest , or the overdraft interest?, only asking as it seems a bit on the low side, unless of-course you incurred all the charges within the last 18 months

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HSBC- £4995, settled payment in full

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Thats the overdraft interest. I used the spreadsheet on this forum to work it out. The claim broken down is £2191.50 taken from the statements they sent me dating 7 july 2000-7 june 2006 plus 499.25 from statements i had at home from sep 96- june 2000. Thats £2690.75 plus O/D interest of 163.65 totalling £2854.40.

 

Does that sound right??

 

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Ok, first potentially stupid question but i gotta ask it.

 

Can i only claim back 6 years. The reason i ask is that i have all my statements from when i first opened my account in sep 1996 up to june 2000. The bank have sent me statements back to july 2000 but as i have previous statements i'm assuming i can claim them to?!?!?!

 

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Cheers crusher

 

Been scouring the forums for a pair of hours now and i've had to stomach that its only 6 years. The annoying bit is i found 500 quids worth of charges from before the 6 year point GRRRRRRR.

 

Could you check my spread sheet for me to make sure it looks about right before i seal it in the envelope?!?!?

 

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email it to me and ill give it the once over if you like

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UPDATE (Really Excited)

 

Well I sent my prelim letter just over a week ago and got a fairly positive letter this morning but now need a little guidance from the people that know best

 

Basically HSBC have said they are prepared to refund £1970.00 of the £2191.50 i'm claiming for saying that they are mindful of the management time and irrecoverable legal costs that are involved with a claim.

 

So, whats my next step, do I accept it and still tell them they have till monday (14 day expiry) to settle in full and then send the LBA or just wait till monday then send LBA without acknowledging this letter?!?!

 

Any help on this would be greatly greatly appreciated as its only £221.50 short of the total and i dont wanna screw it up and lose out. I kinda want to get to the court phase so i can add the 8%.

 

Thanx in advance guys

 

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Isn't it just, kinda hard not to accept it!!

 

I addressed it to

 

Ian Shepherd

HSBC Bank plc

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Harry Weston Road

Binley

West Midlands

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Just waiting for some advice now.

 

 

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This is where it gets difficult to advise someone.

 

It's a good 1st offer after one letter. To get the rest would probably take another 4 - 6 weeks and although I would accept as an interim payment and pursue for the rest, only you know your own circumstances.

 

No one would blame you for taking the money now.

 

Sorry if this seems like sitting on the fence, but ultimately it' your choice.

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I know, its like a real dilemma. I guess i'm just hoping to get a few opinions to make the best decision. One way of looking at it is if they are prepared to pay me this after one letter then they are admitting guilt so should get the rest. To be fair to them though it is a very generous offer.

 

ARGGGGHHHHHH

 

What to do!!!

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To get the rest would probably take another 4 - 6 weeks

 

What I should have said is it will take another 4-6 weeks to get any of it, since if you accept as interim, they'll probably withdraw the offer and so you wouldn't get any money until they finally cave in.

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Well, put it this way.

 

 

If someone took £220 out of your wallet, you would want it back, it's a lot of money.

If you are not desperate, a few more weeks would secure the whole lot and possibly a few extra quid interest too.

If you really need it now, then it's a very good first offer.

 

Choices choices....:-D

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